How About Some Islamic Doom Porn?

a reply to: funkadeliaaaa

Usually they all predict a time of upheaval before we reach that Golden Age though. Even the Islamic and Biblical prophecies predict a new Golden Age ... you just have to go through hell on Earth to get to it.

The one that doesn't is Ragnarock. I think it's pretty much curtains on everything.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Do elaborate on that prophesy...

originally posted by: Cuervo
a reply to: ketsuko

Isn't that good news for Christians? This would mean that Christ comes back (2nd coming) and helps the Mahdi defeat the Antichrist.

Also... didn't Muhammad say that the Mahdi's name will be his own name (and his father's, whatever that is).

LOL
If you didn't notice, their Mahdi and Isa (what they call Jesus) is exactly what the bible describes as the Anti-Christ.

Their Isa in no way resembles Jesus / Yeshua Ha-Mashiach of the bible in any way.

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originally posted by: ketsuko
The thing I find so fascinating about prophecy is how do you know? Can you fake it? If you bring it about through your own active agency like the Muslims seek to do, is that counterfeit or does it still count?

As someone who likes to play with prophecy when I mess around in writing and when I read about how other authors deal with it, it's mind blowing.

Is fulfillment fulfillment or does it have to be through supernatural means to count? Should you try to avert it or will that only bring it about? This is why I find the idea of potential prophetic happenings so intriguing in the real world. No, I don't want the world to end, but wow! the idea of being here to watch it play out ... There is a certain grim curiosity I must admit to. I just wish the only real prophecies that seem to be left weren't all of the doom porn variety.

It's like the concept of fate, if you sit around and wait for things to happen they pass you by. It really does seem like it's the fate of some people to do certain things though and really prophecy is nothing more than foretelling the fate of people in the future. Lets look at the reformation of Israel... does that count as a prophecy that came true even though it was through the work of man rather than something supernatural?

What if you think of prophecy as stated goals for the future?

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
This is the Islamic version of the Mayan Calendar end times pron. There will never be a Mahdi but if people believe then they will act out, as they have historically done. Orchestrators know this as it is simple historical fact which is undeniable.

In reality it is hogwash to recruit soldiers from the moderate masses. The sheeple eat this stuff up like candy. It's purpose in the religion is not to strengthen faith, they are all mindless followers of Islam already, it is to ween jihadists from the flock and inspire them. Was in place for centuries, and there have been many many who claimed to be the Mahdi, and many many who violently followed.
Iran wants to be the producer of the Mahdi, so does Turkey, Isis, and all the other radicals.

What you're saying would be real easy if it was true. However

A man should not be able to reach 1400+ years into the future. Right. If he does, what do you think about that?

First, the man in question The Prophet Muhammad (SAW) told his companions to pass on the information because later generations may understand it more than they do at that time. He told them of certain things that will happen, and when they happen the last days are approaching. Like:

1) Women will be dressed but appear naked - Seen a Hollywood red carpet recently?
2) The desert Arabs will compete in building taller and taller buildings - You know where the tallest and the planned tallest buildings in the world are right?
3) There will be an army of the world that comes together to fight the Muslims under 80 banners (80 countries) - A few weeks ago Obama was able to collect 60 banners to fight ISIS, so another 20 wouldn't be that hard, and I'm not saying ISIS is the army mentioned, only the number of countries that are already on board.
4) A man will be able to see what is happening at the back of his house by something he keeps on his hip - I saw a story where a guy with an app on his iPhone was able to alert police to a break in by the cameras he'd installed at the back of his house.
5) People will say such and such person is 'Cool', but there will be no goodness/faith in that person - who doesn't say cool these days?
6) People will ride around in something that resembles a couch - wow, some older American cars are exactly like this, and handle like couches too
7) When the sun rises from the west, if you didn't believe before that, your faith will no longer be accepted - read polar switch.
8) Leadership of the unfit. When a liar is believed and a truthful one is disbelieved. - Too many world leaders would fit that category.
9) Humans will change the creation of Allah - genetic modification/plastic surgery anyone?


But let the Prophet Isa (AS) Jesus give you the test of the truthfulness of a prophet, and knowing that the prophet Muhammad (SAW) is the only prophet that came after Jesus to instruct his followers to believe in Jesus:

Deuteronomy 18:22

"When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.

I could go on, and on.

So I ask you. Should a person be able to accurately predict what happens in the future? The above mentioned random selection should give pause for thought at least.

originally posted by: funkadeliaaaa
a reply to: ketsuko

Theyre not, there are many prophesies in Buddhism, Hinduism & Sikhism (non abrahamic faiths) about the coming of a Golden age where human beings don't commit any violent acts or have evil thoughts, but live harmniously with nature.

Buddhism, predicts the coming of Maitreya Buddha.
Hinduism predicts i assume the reincarnation of a deity like krishna i dont know.
Sikhism predicts I think the return of Guru Gobind Singh ji or Guru Nanak (not too sure which, or if at all either), and they all predict that these events will lead to the dawn of a new Golden era called the Sat Yug. Currently they beleive this is the Kali Yug, akin to a spiritual dark age.

Hinduism predicts the coming of Prophet Muhammad (SAW). Although used now the term Hindu was not known until the Arab traders in India used the term to mean someone from India. But the Veda's and other Hindu scripture do mention a prophet from Arabia riding a camel, the names of his parents and other stuff. I stop there because to identify someone by his name, and the name of his parents would be enough right?

originally posted by: FallenHuman
Hinduism predicts the coming of Prophet Muhammad (SAW). Although used now the term Hindu was not known until the Arab traders in India used the term to mean someone from India. But the Veda's and other Hindu scripture do mention a prophet from Arabia riding a camel, the names of his parents and other stuff. I stop there because to identify someone by his name, and the name of his parents would be enough right?

I don't think you can put much stock in a prophecy that calls someone out by their name if that prophecy goes more than a few years into the future. Language is a fluid thing and spellings/translations change over time. This means that a name given 1000 years ago would translate into a completely different name today.

It all starts here... remember Ahmadinejad ? and the Supreme Leader...


President Ahmadinejad’s office in 2011 argued that Abdullah’s death will be a major prophetic sign signaling the “imminent reappearance of the Mahdi.”

.... a film titled “The Coming is Upon Us” and it teaches that the Islamic messiah named the Hidden Imam or as the Mahdi will soon arrive. (after 2011)

The film teaches that the death of Abdullah will be a fulfillment of prophecy that sets the stage for this last conflict. It even encourages his assassination, saying, “Whoever guarantees the death of King Abdullah in Saudi Arabia, I will guarantee the imminent reappearance of the Mahdi.” It is unclear what immediately follows his death according to this interpretation of Islamic prophecy, but the filmmakers are certain it is the trigger for huge events.
----------“The Coming is Upon Us” movie link to YT 26 min. synopsis with English subtitles

originally posted by: St Udio
according to Hadiths made by various Imams... the reappearance of the Mahdi is closer than ever because the Mahdi returns after the King Abdullah of Arabia dies....

an Islamic military commander will also soon enter the saudi kingdom by way of the nation on the south border instead of the north border that is being secured with a 600 mile security ditch-fence protection zone....
oh yeah the invasion will be coming through Yemen to capture Mecca

our Muslim leaning oval-office-occupant has got a great deal of interest in this King transition, and he better be there pressing the Arab flesh because all hell is soon to break loose there on the largest sand desert in the world, way before BHO leaves the WH living quarters vacant

originally posted by: St Udio
yes the current and immediate threat was IS-ISIS-ISIL.. the military arm of the Caliphate, whatever the name is today
I reviewed the predictions concerning the death of the King Abdullah of the Saudi monarchy
several Hadiths were issued by different Imam(s)...but all agree that Abdullah death immediately precedes the coming of Mahdi
look through the YT under the movie title : .... a film titled “The Coming is Upon Us” and it teaches that the Islamic messiah named the Hidden Imam or as the Mahdi will soon arrive, after the death of Abdullah ~Hadith~
also in that 25 minute synopsis of the actual one-hour movie from Iran...several more Hadiths are told of the condition of the geopolitical scene at the coming-of-Mahdi

Hadith paraphrased: Yemen is the threshold (doorway) by which the Mahdi army uses for entry towards Mecca
Hadith paraphrased: Palestine will have a 'flag' with 'ALGHOYAH' on it

Hadith paraphrased: Arabia will be ruled by Bani Abass don't know if that is a King or a Sect or a military coup...

Hadith paraphrased: a leader 'Khorasani' comes to power & identified by a bum right hand/ 2nd leader 'Yamani'
......................... both leaders hand over the Islam Flag to Mahdi

Hadith paraphrased: 'Shoeib' will be the commander-in-chief- of Islam-Mahdi army ... that might mean that al Baghdadi
( Ibrahim) will be replaced ?

it seems that ISIS might change tactics and attack Arabia from Yemen rather than Kuwait or Iraq, if the Hadith is sound prediction.... so that reinforced 600 mile security zone on the Arabian northern border dissuaded ISIS-ISIL (but no cupie doll)

those are all recent posts scattered throughout several threads, doom-porn away !

originally posted by: butcherguy
Supposedly the Iranian government made a film predicting the rise of the Mahdi upon the death of Abdullah.

Ahmadinejad (former president) is a HUGE believer in the 12th Imam. He has predicted that he himself will be side by side with the Mahdi and they'll force what's left of the world (after they destroy a good chunk of it) to be Muslim. The Mahdi fits the description of the Christian antichrist perfectly.

originally posted by: FallenHuman
A man should not be able to reach 1400+ years into the future. Right. If he does, what do you think about that?

Got a source for those alleged prophecies of Muhammad?

What do I think about people who can see into the future? Their gift comes either from God or the Devil. And considering Muhammads bloody history and the murders he committed and the caravans he robbed ... If he actually had any visions, which it is highly doubtful that he did, they would have come from an evil source.

Muhammad wasn't a prophet. He was a war lord who invented a religion in order to make people follow him.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Truth be told and by admission of the Koran. Muhammad also seems to have a penchant for little girls.

Allah is not a real God, if he was he wouldnt expect his followers to do all the killing for him, a real god would be able to do it himself if he so needed to.

The fairy tale about the Mahdi will be nothing more than self fulfilling prophecy

S&F For your efforts though.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

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The Madhi. Is he in Judaism as well?

Since I'm thinking about it. In Judaism doom porn I would point this out. According to the books of Malachi and Zechariah there were supposed to have been 4 messiahs. One appeared at the rebuilding of the 2nd temple as one of the branches of Zechariah. Then the Lord appeared supposedly as Jesus Christ and Elijah the prophet was John the Baptist according to Christanity and the predictions of Malachi. However there is still a problem. The 2nd branch of Zechariah or the Messenger of the Covenant of Malachi has yet to appear. The black horseman.

Per Zechariah he is supposed to build a Jewish temple. Then rule as a king and a priest. Also I would point this out from Revelation 11. The branches are the witnesses of Revelation.

So I would ask the question. Would the Muslims consider the branch to be the Madhi? Or the Dajjel?

originally posted by: FallenHuman

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
This is the Islamic version of the Mayan Calendar end times pron. There will never be a Mahdi but if people believe then they will act out, as they have historically done. Orchestrators know this as it is simple historical fact which is undeniable.

In reality it is hogwash to recruit soldiers from the moderate masses. The sheeple eat this stuff up like candy. It's purpose in the religion is not to strengthen faith, they are all mindless followers of Islam already, it is to ween jihadists from the flock and inspire them. Was in place for centuries, and there have been many many who claimed to be the Mahdi, and many many who violently followed.
Iran wants to be the producer of the Mahdi, so does Turkey, Isis, and all the other radicals.

What you're saying would be real easy if it was true. However

A man should not be able to reach 1400+ years into the future. Right. If he does, what do you think about that?

First, the man in question The Prophet Muhammad (SAW) told his companions to pass on the information because later generations may understand it more than they do at that time. He told them of certain things that will happen, and when they happen the last days are approaching. Like:

1) Women will be dressed but appear naked - Seen a Hollywood red carpet recently?
2) The desert Arabs will compete in building taller and taller buildings - You know where the tallest and the planned tallest buildings in the world are right?
3) There will be an army of the world that comes together to fight the Muslims under 80 banners (80 countries) - A few weeks ago Obama was able to collect 60 banners to fight ISIS, so another 20 wouldn't be that hard, and I'm not saying ISIS is the army mentioned, only the number of countries that are already on board.
4) A man will be able to see what is happening at the back of his house by something he keeps on his hip - I saw a story where a guy with an app on his iPhone was able to alert police to a break in by the cameras he'd installed at the back of his house.
5) People will say such and such person is 'Cool', but there will be no goodness/faith in that person - who doesn't say cool these days?
6) People will ride around in something that resembles a couch - wow, some older American cars are exactly like this, and handle like couches too

7) When the sun rises from the west, if you didn't believe before that, your faith will no longer be accepted - read polar switch.
8) Leadership of the unfit. When a liar is believed and a truthful one is disbelieved. - Too many world leaders would fit that category.
9) Humans will change the creation of Allah - genetic modification/plastic surgery anyone?


But let the Prophet Isa (AS) Jesus give you the test of the truthfulness of a prophet, and knowing that the prophet Muhammad (SAW) is the only prophet that came after Jesus to instruct his followers to believe in Jesus:

Deuteronomy 18:22

"When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.

I could go on, and on.

So I ask you. Should a person be able to accurately predict what happens in the future? The above mentioned random selection should give pause for thought at least.

I'll go through your list....

1) Every dirty old man dreams of seeing naked ladies all the time.
2) As time goes by and wealth accumulates growth happens, bigger structures are a no brainer.
3) He set up a system to always be in conflict, of course he wished for it to have a large conflict.
4) Any fiction writer dreams up futuristic stuff, today it is warp drives to reach stars. Imagination is something everyone has.
5)In every era and time there were baddies who said and did bad things, no revelation there.
6) Jules Vern imagined a lot of stuff too, so did Michelangelo.
7) Lol polar shift, that does not change the direction the earth rotates around the sun.
8) He should have looked in a mirror or a calm oasis pool.
9)Ever seen the sculptures from ancient Greece and others a thousand years before he was ever born? Human torsos on horses for example? Nothing original in that thought.

a reply to: ketsuko

How About Some Islamic Doom Porn?

I thought that was the cover of sports illustrated.

Now it's something different ?

BBL readying my bunker.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Muhammad wasn't a prophet. He was a war lord who invented a religion in order to make people follow him.

Religion and politics has soooo much in common.

It's really scary.

originally posted by: skunkape23
False prophets.
Real profits.

Shampoo
Real Poo

The only doom I see is the possible problems associated with power plays in Saudi...

Imagine Game of Thrones Arabic Style. Find the dragons.....

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: FallenHuman

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
This is the Islamic version of the Mayan Calendar end times pron. There will never be a Mahdi but if people believe then they will act out, as they have historically done. Orchestrators know this as it is simple historical fact which is undeniable.

In reality it is hogwash to recruit soldiers from the moderate masses. The sheeple eat this stuff up like candy. It's purpose in the religion is not to strengthen faith, they are all mindless followers of Islam already, it is to ween jihadists from the flock and inspire them. Was in place for centuries, and there have been many many who claimed to be the Mahdi, and many many who violently followed.
Iran wants to be the producer of the Mahdi, so does Turkey, Isis, and all the other radicals.

What you're saying would be real easy if it was true. However

A man should not be able to reach 1400+ years into the future. Right. If he does, what do you think about that?

First, the man in question The Prophet Muhammad (SAW) told his companions to pass on the information because later generations may understand it more than they do at that time. He told them of certain things that will happen, and when they happen the last days are approaching. Like:

1) Women will be dressed but appear naked - Seen a Hollywood red carpet recently?
2) The desert Arabs will compete in building taller and taller buildings - You know where the tallest and the planned tallest buildings in the world are right?
3) There will be an army of the world that comes together to fight the Muslims under 80 banners (80 countries) - A few weeks ago Obama was able to collect 60 banners to fight ISIS, so another 20 wouldn't be that hard, and I'm not saying ISIS is the army mentioned, only the number of countries that are already on board.
4) A man will be able to see what is happening at the back of his house by something he keeps on his hip - I saw a story where a guy with an app on his iPhone was able to alert police to a break in by the cameras he'd installed at the back of his house.
5) People will say such and such person is 'Cool', but there will be no goodness/faith in that person - who doesn't say cool these days?
6) People will ride around in something that resembles a couch - wow, some older American cars are exactly like this, and handle like couches too

7) When the sun rises from the west, if you didn't believe before that, your faith will no longer be accepted - read polar switch.
8) Leadership of the unfit. When a liar is believed and a truthful one is disbelieved. - Too many world leaders would fit that category.
9) Humans will change the creation of Allah - genetic modification/plastic surgery anyone?


But let the Prophet Isa (AS) Jesus give you the test of the truthfulness of a prophet, and knowing that the prophet Muhammad (SAW) is the only prophet that came after Jesus to instruct his followers to believe in Jesus:

Deuteronomy 18:22

"When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.

I could go on, and on.

So I ask you. Should a person be able to accurately predict what happens in the future? The above mentioned random selection should give pause for thought at least.

I'll go through your list....

1) Every dirty old man dreams of seeing naked ladies all the time.
2) As time goes by and wealth accumulates growth happens, bigger structures are a no brainer.
3) He set up a system to always be in conflict, of course he wished for it to have a large conflict.
4) Any fiction writer dreams up futuristic stuff, today it is warp drives to reach stars. Imagination is something everyone has.
5)In every era and time there were baddies who said and did bad things, no revelation there.
6) Jules Vern imagined a lot of stuff too, so did Michelangelo.
7) Lol polar shift, that does not change the direction the earth rotates around the sun.
8) He should have looked in a mirror or a calm oasis pool.
9)Ever seen the sculptures from ancient Greece and others a thousand years before he was ever born? Human torsos on horses for example? Nothing original in that thought.

A very infantile attempt. I'll take you're #2 rebuttal...

In the time of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW), the Arabs were poor. In fact there was one narration where a delegation that had gone to Persia were mocked. The ruler asked what they were doing there and if they wanted money he would give it to them and their leader double - they were known to be so poor as to eat the skin of dead animals. So, why would anyone assume that all of a sudden they would be so wealthy as to compete in building taller and taller buildings?

The fact it is mentioned doesn't just mean everyone will be building taller buildings and so will the Arabs, but that you will be leading in doing that, or there would be no need to bring it to the attention.

We are talking of a time period when that happens, so now look around. Dubai has the tallest building in the world. Look at the clock tower (Mecca Royal Hotel Clock Tower) that was completed in Makkah recently, in 2012 it was the 2nd tallest building in the world. Jeddah in Saudi Arabia have plans to build a tower taller than that in Dubai at over 1 KM tall.

mideastposts.com...

Don't get me wrong. There is no compulsion in religion. The truth is clear from falsehood even though you may dislike it.

In summary not even a nice try.

originally posted by: FallenHuman
The truth is clear from falsehood even though you may dislike it.

Yes, the truth is clear .... and you aren't going to like it.

Muhammad wasn't a prophet. He was a sex obsessed war lord who invented a religion in order to make people follow him. God isn't going to give holy visions to a caravan thief and murderer. The devil might. But not God. And of course, demonic visions would be unreliable twisted half truths. But there is no evidence offered by Muhammad that proves his claim of visions anyways.