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How About Some Islamic Doom Porn?

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posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 07:38 PM
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I found a prophecy around King Abdullah's death! It seems it might be a sign of the rise of the Mahdi, and I'm not talking about Usual Muad-Dib, either.



A hadith in Ghaybat Al-Tusi quotes Mohammed discussing when that reappearance would be: “On doomsday, a man who is carrying the name of an animal ascends to the throne, after which a man named Abdullah comes to the power. Whoever informs me of his death, I will inform him of the rise [of Mahdi]. After Abdullah passes away, for several days and months, the government will appear.”

Abdullah’s predecessor, King Fahd, is said to have carried “the name of an animal” since one meaning of Fahd is related to “cheetah.” That would leave King Abdullah as the ruler that reigns before Mahdi.

According to the hadith book of Bahar al-Anvar, “When Abdullah dies, people will agree on no one, and this issue will be kept alive till the rise of Imam [Mahdi]. An age of a hundred-year reign comes to an end, and an age of a [kingdom lasting] a few days and months arrives.”


The House of Saud is said to have a successor already picked out, but what say you? Does the death of Abdullah herald the rise of the Mahdi according to the beliefs of the Islamic End Times?




posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 07:47 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

You mean some more Islamic doom porn? This stuff is getting old. Seems every where we turn these days all we seem to hear is Islam this or Islam that. Prophecy, aside, it's just a religion, most lightly just as misguided as the rest.
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posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 07:49 PM
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posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko
Interesting stuff Ket.....Salaman The successor, is old infirm and suffering from dementia ive heard....
Perhaps he wont make it for too long either....
But what of the Djal?



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 07:53 PM
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Personally I don't trust the Hadiths...


There is another prophecy attributed to Muhammad, also the from Hadith I believe...

About the rise of a group who work under the Black flag, intent on destroying Islam & sowing discord upon the Earth...
Very close to ISIS.



As for the prophecy you shared, that could be true, but like I said I don't personally trust the Hadith...
A lot of hear say & "supposedly said" commentary about Muhammad...


& Abdullah isn't exactly a rare name in the Middle East...



Plus, this is a Shia Hadith...
Not really considered 1 of the 6 authentic Hadith among Sunnis.



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 07:54 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Islam religion of peace!

Don't try to attach negativity to peace religion.



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posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 07:54 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Yeah, well, that doom porn is usually the rest of the world having the vapors claiming the Islam will be the death of us. This is Islam claiming the End of Times is coming in their own religion which is a somewhat fresh angle.

I am somewhat familiar with Twelvers, but I had no idea they had a prophetic hadith that looks like it may be fulfilling itself here. That, to me, is fascinating stuff given that Islam is at its base an Abrahamic faith.



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 07:55 PM
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Isn't everyday full of Islamic doom porn on ATS? LoL!


ETA: dang! Andy already played my joke!

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posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 07:59 PM
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originally posted by: kosmicjack
Isn't everyday full of Islamic doom porn on ATS? LoL!


ETA: dang! Andy already played my joke!


Pretty much. Not many days go by that there isn't some violence, butchery, threat of death, or similar.



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 08:00 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

I get where you are going in your disagreement. It's like the Kaduri prophecy.

But it also doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that the guy they put in charge is old and ill and with 20 possible claimants ... it could get ugly. The idea of instability isn't that far-fetched given the situation.



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 08:04 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I suppose any actual bearing we allow these type of prophecys to have is of the sell fulfilling variety?

How very synonymous with the world in which we live today.


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posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 08:04 PM
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False prophets.
Real profits.



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 08:33 PM
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Is this related?
Frontpagemagazine
Supposedly the Iranian government made a film predicting the rise of the Mahdi upon the death of Abdullah.



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 08:43 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Isn't that good news for Christians? This would mean that Christ comes back (2nd coming) and helps the Mahdi defeat the Antichrist.

Also... didn't Muhammad say that the Mahdi's name will be his own name (and his father's, whatever that is).



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 08:59 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Yeah with so many relatives the possibility of discord and infighting for control is, percentage wise, undeniable...



However, I do feel they are all connected with the same goal & the show will go on.


Too much at stake for the House of Saud to turn into a House of Cards.



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 09:17 PM
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This is the Islamic version of the Mayan Calendar end times pron. There will never be a Mahdi but if people believe then they will act out, as they have historically done. Orchestrators know this as it is simple historical fact which is undeniable.

In reality it is hogwash to recruit soldiers from the moderate masses. The sheeple eat this stuff up like candy. It's purpose in the religion is not to strengthen faith, they are all mindless followers of Islam already, it is to ween jihadists from the flock and inspire them. Was in place for centuries, and there have been many many who claimed to be the Mahdi, and many many who violently followed.
Iran wants to be the producer of the Mahdi, so does Turkey, Isis, and all the other radicals.



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 09:17 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
I found a prophecy around King Abdullah's death! It seems it might be a sign of the rise of the Mahdi, and I'm not talking about Usual Muad-Dib, either.



A hadith in Ghaybat Al-Tusi quotes Mohammed discussing when that reappearance would be: “On doomsday, a man who is carrying the name of an animal ascends to the throne, after which a man named Abdullah comes to the power. Whoever informs me of his death, I will inform him of the rise [of Mahdi]. After Abdullah passes away, for several days and months, the government will appear.”

Abdullah’s predecessor, King Fahd, is said to have carried “the name of an animal” since one meaning of Fahd is related to “cheetah.” That would leave King Abdullah as the ruler that reigns before Mahdi.

According to the hadith book of Bahar al-Anvar, “When Abdullah dies, people will agree on no one, and this issue will be kept alive till the rise of Imam [Mahdi]. An age of a hundred-year reign comes to an end, and an age of a [kingdom lasting] a few days and months arrives.”


The House of Saud is said to have a successor already picked out, but what say you? Does the death of Abdullah herald the rise of the Mahdi according to the beliefs of the Islamic End Times?


That hundred year reference is interesting. According to Wikipedia linkthe kingdom of Saudi Arabia was founded in 1932 by Ibn Saud. He united the four regions into a single state through a series of conquests beginning in 1902 with the capture of Riyadh, the ancestral home of his family, the House of Saud. If it is accurate, then will the Mahdi only come to power in 2032?

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posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 09:26 PM
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Isis bears the black flags believing they are the champions in question.
Even if we don't believe a word of the Koran, remember, billions do, and they will act upon in.
as I understand it...Christians believe in end times, but they feel that God will make things happen according to His timetable. Muslims apparently believe they can force the issue, and do.

en.wikipedia.org...

The Pashtun tradition of using a black flag with a white shahada inscription as a military ensign, harking back to the 18th-century Hotaki Empire, were adopted by the Taliban, and thence by Al-Qaeda in the 1990s. This usage was adopted by the global jihadism movement in the early 2000s, and in the 2010s by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.[13]

A black flag with the shahada inscribed in white appeared on jihadist websites from at least 2001. (Reported on Flags of the World by Santiago Tazon on 17 November 2001: "I have found in several 'hard Islamic' websites the symbol of a white Taliban flag crossed with its inverted colour version (probably identified as Al‑Qaeda flag): black background with shahada in white. I do not know if this flag is recognised by Al‑Qaeda; but it is normally flying in pro-Al-Qaeda sites.")[14

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posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 10:12 PM
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The thing I find so fascinating about prophecy is how do you know? Can you fake it? If you bring it about through your own active agency like the Muslims seek to do, is that counterfeit or does it still count?

As someone who likes to play with prophecy when I mess around in writing and when I read about how other authors deal with it, it's mind blowing.

Is fulfillment fulfillment or does it have to be through supernatural means to count? Should you try to avert it or will that only bring it about? This is why I find the idea of potential prophetic happenings so intriguing in the real world. No, I don't want the world to end, but wow! the idea of being here to watch it play out ... There is a certain grim curiosity I must admit to. I just wish the only real prophecies that seem to be left weren't all of the doom porn variety.
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posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 11:20 PM
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Theyre not, there are many prophesies in Buddhism, Hinduism & Sikhism (non abrahamic faiths) about the coming of a Golden age where human beings don't commit any violent acts or have evil thoughts, but live harmniously with nature.

Buddhism, predicts the coming of Maitreya Buddha.
Hinduism predicts i assume the reincarnation of a deity like krishna i dont know.
Sikhism predicts I think the return of Guru Gobind Singh ji or Guru Nanak (not too sure which, or if at all either), and they all predict that these events will lead to the dawn of a new Golden era called the Sat Yug. Currently they beleive this is the Kali Yug, akin to a spiritual dark age.



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