Speaking of the Devil....

a reply to: NOTurTypical

history is that the Nazi leaders and the SS were evil.

The evil is that no-one talks about Eugenics being a USA ideology created prior to Hitler. Funded of course by the usual suspects Industrialist and Bankers.


historynewsnetwork.org...

Hitler and his henchmen victimized an entire continent and exterminated millions in his quest for a co-called "Master Race."

But the concept of a white, blond-haired, blue-eyed master Nordic race didn't originate with Hitler. The idea was created in the United States, and cultivated in California, decades before Hitler came to power. California eugenicists played an important, although little known, role in the American eugenics movement's campaign for ethnic cleansing.

Eugenics was the racist pseudoscience determined to wipe away all human beings deemed "unfit," preserving only those who conformed to a Nordic stereotype. Elements of the philosophy were enshrined as national policy by forced sterilization and segregation laws, as well as marriage restrictions, enacted in twenty-seven states. In 1909, California became the third state to adopt such laws. Ultimately, eugenics practitioners coercively sterilized some 60,000 Americans, barred the marriage of thousands, forcibly segregated thousands in "colonies," and persecuted untold numbers in ways we are just learning. Before World War II, nearly half of coercive sterilizations were done in California, and even after the war, the state accounted for a third of all such surgeries.

California was considered an epicenter of the American eugenics movement. During the Twentieth Century's first decades, California's eugenicists included potent but little known race scientists, such as Army venereal disease specialist Dr. Paul Popenoe, citrus magnate and Polytechnic benefactor Paul Gosney, Sacramento banker Charles M. Goethe, as well as members of the California State Board of Charities and Corrections and the University of California Board of Regents.

Eugenics would have been so much bizarre parlor talk had it not been for extensive financing by corporate philanthropies, specifically the Carnegie Institution, the Rockefeller Foundation and the Harriman railroad fortune. They were all in league with some of America's most respected scientists hailing from such prestigious universities as Stamford, Yale, Harvard, and Princeton. These academicians espoused race theory and race science, and then faked and twisted data to serve eugenics' racist aims.

Stanford president David Starr Jordan originated the notion of "race and blood" in his 1902 racial epistle "Blood of a Nation," in which the university scholar declared that human qualities and conditions such as talent and poverty were passed through the blood.

In 1904, the Carnegie Institution established a laboratory complex at Cold Spring Harbor on Long Island that stockpiled millions of index cards on ordinary Americans, as researchers carefully plotted the removal of families, bloodlines and whole peoples. From Cold Spring Harbor, eugenics advocates agitated in the legislatures of America, as well as the nation's social service agencies and associations.

The Harriman railroad fortune paid local charities, such as the New York Bureau of Industries and Immigration, to seek out Jewish, Italian and other immigrants in New York and other crowded cities and subject them to deportation, trumped up confinement or forced sterilization.

a reply to: vethumanbeing

Does anyone even think to read Hitler's manifesto "Mien Kampf"?

Why would I if it was financed by US industrialists or Bankers?
www.rense.com...
'Mein Kampf' - Hitler Used Rothschild Banker's Typewriter

Sometimes it's the symbolic details which speak volumes.

Emil Georg von Stauss, the president of Germany's largest bank, the Deutsche Bank, lent Hitler a portable Remington so he could write his infamous anti-Jewish banker manifesto "Mein Kampf."

Von Stauss, a principal Nazi Party fund raiser, also was a longtime business associate of the Rothschilds.

Hitler dictated "Mein Kampf" to typists Rudolf Hess and Emil Maurice during his cushy eight-months stay at Landsberg Prison in April- December 1924. (His five-year sentence was commuted. He had a two-room suite with a view and was allowed to receive gifts and visitors.)

Von Stauss was part of a "Hitler support group" consisting of wealthy Illuminati. Helene Bechstein, the wife of the piano manufacturer pretended to be Hitler's adopted mother and smuggled out sections of the manuscript. She took care of all Hitler's expenses and hoped he would marry her daughter Lotte. Franz Thyssen, the chairman of United Steelworks sent Hitler a birthday gift of 100,000 gold marks.

This account was taken from Rudolf Hess' letters by Belgian author Stan Lauryssens, ("The Man Who Invented the Third Reich" 1999, pp.130-135.)

It contradicts the image we have of Hitler in 1924 leading a grass roots fringe party. In fact, he was a front man for the international bankers he pretended to oppose. But if we read the "The Protocols of Zion" carefully, we shouldn't be surprised.

www.orange-papers.org...

Henry Ford Sr. was a long-time supporter of Frank Buchman. He was also a long-time supporter of Adolf Hitler. Ford had quite a history of involvement with ultra-conservative and fascist causes himself.
During World War I, Ford wrote a series of viciously anti-Semitic articles for The Dearborn Independent, which he then published in book form as a hate-filled diatribe against Jews called "The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem", which basically blamed Jews for all of the problems of the world. The International Jew is still reprinted and used and much admired by neo-Nazis and White Supremacists even today.

In the early 1920s, this book was published in Germany under the title The Eternal Jew. It reportedly had a major influence on Adolf Hitler, and he almost certainly plagiarized parts of it in Mein Kampf. The admiration was mutual. Following Hitler's assumption of power, Ford sent Hitler 50,000 Deutsch Marks every year on Hitler's birthday. Ford's anti-Semitic views were well known during the period that the Buchmanites bragged of Ford's support of their movement. For more information on Ford's Nazi connections, see Who Financed Hitler?, by James and Suzanne Pool. New York: Dial Press, 1978.
Alcoholics Anonymous, Cult or Cure?, by Charles Bufe, page 30, footnote 16.
What happened was, at the end of 1918, Henry Ford Sr. bought the small independent country newspaper The Dearborn Independent and, at great expense, turned it into a nation-wide newspaper that was devoted to spreading his message.

Suddenly on May 22, 1920, the Independent lashed forth with a violent attack on the Jews. The boldface headline on the front page was a blunt and concise summation of the editorial's thesis: "The International Jew: The World's Problem." The first paragraph began: "There is a race, a part of humanity which has never yet been received as a welcome part." This people, the article continued, has ever been fouling the earth and plotting to dominate it. In order to eventually rule the Gentiles, the Jews have long been conspiring to form an "international super-capitalist government." This racial problem, the Independent said, was the "prime" question confronting all society.
The following ninety-one articles covered a wide field of topics related to the international Jew. ...
In subsequent articles, Ford frequently accused the Jews of causing a decline in American culture, values, products, entertainment, and even worse, of being the instigators of World War I.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

that coincided as well, with the rise of marxism. wall street funded both hitler and the communist revolution in the ussr. then they put their own businesses in there. one guy who researched it (anthony sutton) said "there were more catepillar tractors in the soviet union than anywhere else on the planet"

a reply to: NOTurTypical

That's an absurd claim, Jesus died 2,000 years ago and you are for Him are you not?

Thats sloppy thinking. "Are you with us or against us" Sound a lot like how the US suckered Australia into the "coalition of the willing" in the face of condemnation by the general populace

the people doing this are not just jews. they are globalists from all over the planet.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

yet we need extra specific laws clearly defined as "anti-semitic" The not so funny part is that the Jews are now committing anti-semitism, against the Palestinians and other Arabs . . .

The term doesn't really mean literally antisemitic. It was coined to mean specifically "anti-Jew" but without actually using the word, Jew, so it can't really be applied to Jews being prejudiced against Arabs, despite their arguably being Semites.

a reply to: undo

i know you're intent on proving your point and that's all fine and dandy but what was the original point you were trying to make before this debate about anti semitism arose?

Read from about page 3 onwards. Pergamon, Hitlers 36 Olympics. HM Deweys response and down the rabbit hole we burrowed,

a reply to: undo

(anthony sutton) said "there were more catepillar tractors in the soviet union than anywhere else on the planet"

Sure I think I read Suttons Wall St and the Bolshevik Revolution> Its somewhere in my library.

a reply to: jmdewey60

Jew, so it can't really be applied to Jews being prejudiced against Arabs, despite their arguably being Semites.

And yet you dont see the irony in Israels genocide against the Palestinians?

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

And yet you dont see the irony in Israels genocide against the Palestinians?

As it turned out, it became ironic, since apparently they did not foresee this kind of thing when they came up with the term.

a reply to: jmdewey60

What is ignored by the official narrative is that those who wanted to leave Germany were allowed to, and they were able to take their money with them, and those who chose to stay and be part of German society were left unmolested and continued on in business throughout the war.

Thanks. I still dont see why the "collective" guilt of the Germans still makes reparations to the Holocaust Extortion racket. A good expose is Prof Norman Finkelsteins work. Heres part of an interview of how lies become self perpetuating


globalfire.tv...

Does the Holocaust Industry lie about the numbers of Holocaust victims?

FINKELSTEIN: The figure for these Holocaust survivors at war's end is generally put at some 100,000. The number of living survivors cannot be more than a quarter of this figure now. ... The Israeli prime minister's office recently put the number of 'living Holocaust survivors' at nearly a million. The main motive behind this inflationary revision is again not hard to find. It is difficult to press massive new claims for reparations if only a handful of Holocaust survivors are still alive.

Is the most prominent Holocaust celebrity, the greatest survivor in Holocaust history, Elie Wiesel, in fact a Holocaust liar?

FINKELSTEIN: Preposterous statements pass without comment. Elie Wiesel reminisces in his acclaimed memoir that, recently liberated from Buchenwald and only 18 years old, "I read the Critique of Pure Reason don't laugh! in Yiddish." Leaving aside Wiesel's acknowledgment that at the time "I was wholly ignorant of Yiddish grammar", The Critique of Pure Reason was never translated into Yiddish. "The truth I present is unvarnished", Wiesel sighs, "I cannot do otherwise."

Are the promoters of the Holocaust Industry deliberately spreading lies?

FINKELSTEIN: Israel Gutman, director of Yad Vashem and a Holocaust lecturer at Hebrew University, said: "It's not that important' whether Binjamin Wilkomirski's [now discredited 'autobiographical' account of childhood in the camps], Fragments, is a fraud. 'Wilkomirski has written a story which he has experienced deeply; that's for sure ... He is not a fake. He is someone who lives this story very deeply in his soul." So it doesn't matter whether he spent the war in a concentration camp or a Swiss chalet; Wilkomirski is a Holocaust survivor because "his pain is authentic

Well we see why to question any aspect of the Holocaust is considered a crime.

Look I'm not condoning Hitlers action during WW2, but to study one without the precedent and antecedent narrative is to do truth an injustice.
I mean how far down the rabbit hole do we go? Nazis shipped off to the USA under Operation Paperclip being "rehabilitated" into loyal american spies.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: NOTurTypical

That's an absurd claim, Jesus died 2,000 years ago and you are for Him are you not?

Thats sloppy thinking. "Are you with us or against us" Sound a lot like how the US suckered Australia into the "coalition of the willing" in the face of condemnation by the general populace

You missed my entire point.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: NOTurTypical

Are you a Nazi sympathizer?

No he simply studies, something you obviously lack..with that rude comment. Try reading the transcipts of the Nuremburg trials, it may open your eyes.

I'm quite sure there is some pro-Nazi literature floating about. Moot point.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

but to study one without the precedent and antecedent narrative is to do truth an injustice.

Right, and my point was that there was and is, reasons for creating a false narrative, and it is to cover up the truth for a few very serious reasons.
The result is a demonization that people are taught to accept as something to be taken for granted.

originally posted by: HarryJoy
Well by the looks of his nose. I would say it's not a good idea to bang ones head against a brick wall. But if one bangs on a door long enough it will be answered either by the fool or the wise.

LOL well said.

a reply to: NOTurTypical

I'm quite sure there is some pro-Nazi literature floating about. Moot point.

Pro Nazi? I said the "transcipts of the Nuremburg Trials" .They were military tribunals held by the Allied force after WW2.
I didnt say "jesus was an Essene" to delude you into a hysteric response. Try reading the words as they're written. Noturtypical certainly describes your comprehension skills.

a reply to: jmdewey60

The result is a demonization that people are taught to accept as something to be taken for granted.

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Thats why they jail historians who systematically check the figures of the 6 million Jewish deaths at the hands of Hitler.

the beast of revelation is better understood via the beasts of daniel, as defined by the statue nebuchadnezzar dreams about.

the golden head is nebuchadnezzar - the first empire in the beast system is the babylonian empire (not egypt)

then there's the silver arms and shoulders- the second empire in the beast system is media persia empire

then there's the bronze chest - the third empire in the beast system is grecian empire

then there's the iron legs - the fourth empire in the beast system is the roman empire

and then the feet and toes, made half of iron and half clay(meaning it's roman and something else. whatever the clay represents, it doesn't get along with the iron. the identity of the empire however, pretty much explains it) - the fifth empire is the only empire that immediately follows the roman empire and that is the holy roman empire.

now skip forward to revelation.
the fifth empire is repeating, it's just disguised itself. the beast that was, is not, yet is. the 6th, 7th and 8th empires are just the 5th empire under various guises. holy roman holy roman holy roman. doesn't matter where the empire's power center appears to be, because its actual power base is the vatican.

remember the statue represents all the empires in history from the time of nebudchadnezzar to the end of the age when christ returns, and since it only goes to the fifth empire, that means that 6, 7 and 8, mentioned in revelation, are just number 5, repeating.

was, is not, yet is.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Look, I'm not even going to dignify a juvenile ad hom appeal to ridicule response from you. If you want to have a grown up dialogue then fine, if you want to remain in the gutter with pithy personal attacks then I'll leave you there.