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Speaking of the Devil....

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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 02:24 PM
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a reply to: undo

Indeed, I just did, (re-) read it I mean, and it turns out I had already starred and flagged it, so I must have read it and somehow forgotten all about it. My first (or rather second) impression was, «Hm, looks just about right, hm, can't seem to find anything to pick on really. Mint!» Not many people have this effect on me here, but you and the wandering scribe both have this quality. So thanks






posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: Utnapisjtim

well thanks! every time i see your name on a thread, i go "ooh, must read!" so we are mutually appreciative of each other's research.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 03:45 PM
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originally posted by: undo
a reply to: Utnapisjtim

well thanks! every time i see your name on a thread, i go "ooh, must read!" so we are mutually appreciative of each other's research.


Oh dear, as long as we don't end up getting married
Wrote a couple of replies in your thread, turns out your thread did make me think, and do a few searches for a few things that lingered. Feel free to tear my little theory apart of course

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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: jmdewey60
a reply to: veteranhumanbeing

VHB: Personally, I HATE WIKIPEDIA because I see its agenda.


jmdewey60: I would say that if it does have an agenda, it is towards the standard official narrative.
I think that despite that, it still is able to get some things in there that doesn't really help that agenda (if it does have one).

*IF* WIKIPEDIA HAS AN AGENDA? The agenda is to (in Michelle Obamas own words to alter/change historical fact)(not to change future history but past history) neglect to include this or that, candy coat the obvious, smooth over horrible truths, and contriving or MAKING UP 'an official standard narrative' is a very dangerous policy for those that are children now; as will not have the benefit of knowing real historical facts. Did you not know this?: TRUTH HAS NO AGENDA.

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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:34 PM
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a reply to: Utnapisjtim
Where are all of the 'self proclaimed' thread killers when you need them?


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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 05:11 PM
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originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
a reply to: undo

Not necessarily globalists, German IG Farben made Zyklon B, and Siemens designed and installed the crematorium ovens as far as I remember. Also, Norwegian Hydro made (and sabotaged) Germany's heavy water used in their nuclear reactor experiments, and after the war, Hydro turned their jackets round and produced Israel's heavy water, at double price for silence.
And it's only natural, it's how money is made, it's what business is all about, and it's fair I think. If there is a demand, someone will fill the gap, if Bush hadn't made the money on Crack gold and Nazi whatever, someone else would've. It's easy to sit here 70 years after the fact and criticise these war-profiteers, but truth be told, war is big business, and where there is money to be made, there is money to be made.

There are many good examples of what happens when an embargo is made on certain products. During the War, the Allies managed to cut off the supply of opium to Nazi-Germany, and what happened? The Nazis developed metadon instead. Another example is when Egypt put a ban on papyrus export way back, for what happened? Parchment was developed by the Greeks and Egypt lost its monopoly on "paper".

As far as you remember, you; in your shy modesty state: War is big bucks. Yes; so is an economic depression for some. It is easy to sit here 70 years later with hindsight tell the truth be told, as you say "Where there is money to be made there is money to be made" you neglected to also say "Where there is money to be made is money to be made"; as in GRAB YOUR DIVIDEND (if you break the law, you are breaking the law (no consequences as is just WORDS repeated to form a redundant statement). I think you might be confused regarding the 'paper' thing. Paper is/was traditionally made of cotton or woody fibers. Papyrus/parchment is made of reeds or bull rushes (maybe some palm fronds thrown in).

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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 05:42 PM
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originally posted by: jmdewey60
a reply to: vethumanbeing

Joseph Goebbels was a FASCIST NAZI party member; he was one of Hitler's henchmen, was not Wermacht (army) Luftwaffe (air force). Where are you getting your information?
He was a socialist who believed in confiscation of private property by the state.

Question, was the Socialist agenda *by the state* in confiscating the wealth of private property owners ever redistributed fairly amongst the poor (I would imagine the plan was to level or restructure the playing fields). The poor then benefit by being STAYING poor within a welfare state. Benjamin Franklin said this: "Stop aiding the poor so much as they can rise above their self imposed circumstances". I might be wrong; but I think the NAZI's took all of the confiscated wealth from the murdered victims of that regime and funneled it: to fund their War Machine INSTEAD.


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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 05:58 PM
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a reply to: vethumanbeing

Though I am flattered by your interest in me following me around like a blood fan, but I could do without you going all ad hominem and obstructive all the time, in the guise of some sarcasm or irony and echoing-- your mistake is that you overdo it, even a genious like yourself should have learnt to portion out your meals scarcely and with tact and a certain class and x-factor. I am amazed the mods keep you going, you and mr. Holocaustneverhappened.

And please, let's talk legal and economic ruin, the kind you get from legal business and legal justice, as set apart from, say, penny-snatching and bailing.

The Devil takes care of his own, man. He's busy, that's all.
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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 06:52 PM
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originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
a reply to: vethumanbeing

Though I am flattered by your interest in me following me around like a blood fan, but I could do without you going all ad hominem and obstructive all the time, in the guise of some sarcasm or irony and echoing your mistake is that you overdo it, even a genious like yourself should have learnt to portion out your meals scarcely and with tact and a certain class and x-factor. I am amazed the mods keep you going, you and mr. Holocaustneverhappened.

And please, let's talk legal and economic ruin, the kind you get from legal business and legal justice, as set apart from, say, penny-snatching and bailing.

The Devil takes care of his own, man. He's busy, that's all.

You are not that busy; unless preening/taking care of yourself. What is a blood fan? What guise; I am perfectly sincere. What mistake of mine are you echoing? What am I 'overdoing' and where lies your book of engagement rules judgment call reference (to what authority moderating). Yes; lets talk about 'setting apart' the penny-snatching and bailing instead of 'business and legal justice'. I appreciate your compliments regarding my x-factor tact and 'certain class'.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 07:08 PM
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originally posted by: vethumanbeing
What mistake of mine are you echoing?


YOU are echoing -- it's a linguistic mechanism you can apply to avoid any responsibilities from your efforts while at the same time being utterly annoying. Children do it a lot. Even monkeys, and it's actually very effective. Below you can see a few of the others such suppression techniques. I could have a few friends over at the university to have a look at your efforts these last few weeks and months, but they have better things to do.

en.wikipedia.org...

May I ask you where you have learnt this, for you're damn good at it? I bet you learnt from «the best», HA? You must have had a horrid life, pity you have yourself turned into the kind you hated so much. You know, there are people you could talk to, others who have had to endure the same kind of crap you are now yourself sporting as if it was the most casual thing.
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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 07:24 PM
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originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
originally posted by: veteranhumanbeing

VHB: What mistake of mine are you echoing?



Utapisjtim: YOU are echoing -- it's a linguistic mechanism you can apply to avoid any responsibilities from your efforts while at the same time being utterly annoying. Children do it a lot. Even monkeys, and it's actually very effective. Below you can see a few of the others such suppression techniques. I could have a few friends over at the university to have a look at your efforts these last few weeks and months, but they have better things to do.

Oh, you are actually speaking of the perpetual annoying "WHY?" question children ask. Not sure monkeys have attained human speech as yet. Having University friends is always a plus as they are good "GO TO FOR THE ANSWERS" you are seeking (depends on your questions and expected answers) as in they will tell you exactly what you need to hear. I have been on your radar for months?



Utnapisjitm: en.wikipedia.org...

May I ask you where you have learnt this, for you're damn good at it? I bet you learnt from «the best», HA? You must have had a horrid life, pity you have yourself turned into the kind you hated so much. You know, there are people you could talk to, others who have had to endure the same kind of crap you are now yourself sporting as if it was the most casual thing.

Master suppression techniques; well I can tell you I DID NOT LEARN THEM from researching Wikipedia.org and am SWORN TO SECRECY; so not telling. I am anything but filled with hate; more the opposite, Love (hope also attached as a 'footnote' like a remora on a whale).
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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 07:52 PM
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Yes, and your decadence is thick with layers, and now you're talking about hate? And deliberately misinterpret echoing into meaning questioning (ever read a book called 'To Kill a Mockingbird' by Harper Lee? You should, but nevermind...), but I guess your kind get responses like that with children you approach, for reasons undisclosed. For the love of God man!



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
a reply to: vethumanbeing

Yes, and your decadence is thick with layers, and now you're talking about hate? And deliberately misinterpret echoing into meaning questioning (ever read a book called 'To Kill a Mockingbird' by Harper Lee? You should, but nevermind...), but I guess your kind get responses like that with children you approach, for reasons undisclosed. For the love of God man!

Sure; and in the film version Gregory Peck played 'Atticus' the father figure, Scout the daughter, Robert Duval as Boo Radley; Dell, the boy living in the mansion with his Auntie down the street was based upon Truman Capote. Harper Lee and Truman Capote were childhood friends (lived in the same Mississippi town); he railed upon this fact until his death, "You never credited me as being the basis for/of Dell's character". Harper Lee helped him/went to Kansas with him in order to facilitate the writing of "In Cold Blood". Children seem to love me; they run to me and hug me even though I could be (by a prudent parents warnings) perceived as a potential 'stranger danger' not so. 'My kind' gets the sort of trust from children (and animals as well) that allows for those impetuous purely spontaneous responses. Not sure how 'decadence' thick with layers applies.
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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 08:30 PM
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originally posted by: vethumanbeing
'My kind' gets the sort of trust from children (and animals as well) that allows for those impetuous purely spontaneous responses.


Yes, so I've heard. It's the adults that don't like you, isn't it? The ones who can actually understand what you are trying to accomplish. Ptah.

Here's a nice picture, look his head is heart shaped, see it as a token of my love for you


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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 08:38 PM
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originally posted by: Utnapisjtim

originally posted by: vethumanbeing
'My kind' gets the sort of trust from children (and animals as well) that allows for those impetuous purely spontaneous responses.


Yes, so I've heard. It's the adults that don't like you, isn't it? The ones who can actually understand what you are trying to accomplish. Ptah.


Well if you heard anything from the 'so heard from' audience; it probably came from me (cheering you on) via a 'human word speak' typing apparatus (the message may have been garbled during transmission; not your fault).
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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 08:43 PM
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a reply to: vethumanbeing

Yadayada, that's what they all say. Rumours are you are on your way down, I came all the way down to this little hell of yours here at ATS just to see it for myself, you really are that low, I never imagined....



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 09:00 PM
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originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
a reply to: vethumanbeing

Yadayada, that's what they all say. Rumours are you are on your way down, I came all the way down to this little hell of yours here at ATS just to see it for myself, you really are that low, I never imagined....


Not sure my lowest is even close to YOUR natural LOW or remotely resembles a similar eternal destination. Define what 'they all say' as you haven't quoted anyone else saying "Yadayada" (closest I can get is "YABADABADOO" Fred Flintstone). Rumors can be a plus *if ears to the ground* see something falsely predicted, become an eventuality; FEAR BASED. RUN FOR YOUR LIVES. I do not believe ATS is a 'proving ground' for determining who gains entry to Hell (everyone has to stand in line; first come first serve, no cutting/no bribes).
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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 09:50 PM
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a reply to: vethumanbeing

You know, you really shouldn't play the paranoia game with people, you could end up getting burnt to potash and turned into handmade soap if you pissed off the wrong kind of people or stayed on the silly payroll of yours, you really know how to make a mess, don't you?



posted on Feb, 3 2015 @ 04:58 PM
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originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
a reply to: vethumanbeing

You know, you really shouldn't play the paranoia game with people, you could end up getting burnt to potash and turned into handmade soap if you pissed off the wrong kind of people or stayed on the silly payroll of yours, you really know how to make a mess, don't you?

There you go with that soap thing; you are bringing it up again. Fats and ashes/potash POT ASH and Solomon's Temple; the Pharasee's taking the sacrificed animals and turning them into HANDMADE "soap" (what, they didn't have a mechanical engineer to modernize a 'proctor gamble type' mass production) for the unwashed. Well, they may have but primitive (there was also a butcher shop one floor below underneath the alter). I am all for the recycling of ANY sacrificial animal products, including those that can be Bar_Be_Qued (in the original Sumerian language translated to English means 'grilled').
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posted on Feb, 3 2015 @ 05:22 PM
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originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
a reply to: vethumanbeing

You know, you really shouldn't play the paranoia game with people, you could end up getting burnt to potash and turned into handmade soap if you pissed off the wrong kind of people or stayed on the silly payroll of yours, you really know how to make a mess, don't you?

There you go with that soap thing; you are bringing it up again. Fats and ashes/potash POT ASH and Solomon's Temple; the Pharasee's taking the sacrificed animals and turning them into HANDMADE "soap" (what, they didn't have a mechanical engineer to modernize a 'proctor gamble type' mass production) for the unwashed. Well, they may have but primitive (there was also a butcher shop one floor below underneath the alter). I am all for the recycling of ANY sacrificial animal products, including those that can be Bar_Be_Qued (in the original Sumerian language translated to English means 'grilled').


And you consider this rant to be "perfectly sincere"?



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