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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: NOTurTypical
Paul is not credited with writing the Acts of the Apostles, Luke is. The book doesn't appear until well after the death of Paul, in the 2nd century.
So, we have Luke, who ever he was, quoting Paul quoting Jesus? Not too convincing.
He said Paul "quoted"" Jesus in Acts, not wrote the book.
You have a pattern of bias and bias leads to ... errors. Be honest, are you searching for the real truth? Bias tends to shape the truth to fit a desired outcome or conclusion. (Don't shoot me, I'm just delivering a message.)
So here we have Paul considered a scholar, a pharisee
authoritative. One to two years after the cross and on
his way to Damascus. Authored what, 13 books of the Bible?
But a certain man named Ananias, with his wife Sapphira, sold a piece of property, 2 and kept back some of the price for himself, with his wife’s full knowledge, and bringing a portion of it, he laid it at the apostles’ feet. 3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit, and to keep back some of the price of the land? 4 “While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not under your control? Why is it that you have conceived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to men, but to God.” 5 And as he heard these words, Ananias fell down and breathed his last; and great fear came upon all who heard of it.
7 Now there elapsed an interval of about three hours, and his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. 8 And Peter responded to her, “Tell me whether you sold the land for such and such a price?” And she said, “Yes, that was the price.” 9 Then Peter said to her, “Why is it that you have agreed together to put the Spirit of the Lord to the test? Behold, the feet of those who have buried your husband are at the door, and they shall carry you out as well.
10 And she fell immediately at his feet, and breathed her last; and the young men came in and found her dead, and they carried her out and buried her beside her husband. 11 And great fear came upon the whole church, and upon all who heard of these things.
You did say you have been studying Nicea for 15 years I had hoped that meant you were still studying it but if you aren't I wondered when you stopped.
Paul is not credited with writing the Acts of the Apostles, Luke is.
The book doesn't appear until well after the death of Paul, in the 2nd century.
originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: NOTurTypical
Ah OK thanks for clearing that up. I really was under the impression you had been specializing in that specific thing for 15 years. I went back and reread the mistake was on my part.
The title "Acts of the Apostles" (Greek Πράξεις ἀποστόλων Praxeis Apostolon) was first used by Irenaeus in the late 2nd century. It is not known whether this was an existing title or one invented by Irenaeus; it does seem clear, however, that it was not given by the author.
Numerous people are quoted in Acts, and in one of the Pauline quotes he directly quotes Jesus with something that appears in none of the 4 gospel accounts.
Acts didn't appear on the scene until the 2nd century and was introduced by Irenaeus.
Acts is the second half of a two-part work by the same anonymous author, Luke-Acts, usually dated to around 80-90 CE.
Like I said, Luke was a story teller, and I see no reason to believe any one of his stories over another.
No, he was a physician and historian. He interviewed as many people as he could to write their experiences with both the apostles and with Jesus, Acts is Luke part 2.
This is a thread about evidence of the existence of a living Jesus of Nazareth.
Right, "usually dated". But the first time we hear about the text at all is in Irenaeus' "Against Heresies c. 175-185 CE"
And, you KNOW this how?
Except for the disciples who were martyred for their testimony. And except for His half-brothers James and Judas who weren't believers until after the resurrection.
We don't know any of that that.
People die for causes every day.