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Originally posted by dawnstar
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Hmmmmmmmm. If I follow you ... Using this, Christ puts John into the same
category as the 'unsaved heathens'. Or am I missing what you said?
Hey, I'm only guessing....it's been a long time since I've been in a church....but, according to some preachers I have heard, King David seems to refer to Christ as his lord...just can't remember just how that sermon went. But well, it's kind of like just how all the christians of today put their faith in the Christ's life long ago, those that came before him, put their faith in his coming. Through that faith, ect, ect......
But, then well, if you have ever read some of what the bible says of these prophets of old, I think they were considered to be a little odd then also. Maybe Jesus was just trying to reassure people that yes, he's a human just like the rest, even if he is a little strainge.
Want to come over for some locust and honey tonight? yummy!!!
Originally posted by dawnstar
"I solemnly assure you, history has not known a man,
BORN OF WOMAN, greater than John the Baptizer. Yet the
least born into the kingdom of God is greater than he."
Well, barring the idea that he know of a time in our future where women wouldn't be needed to bring children into the world, or that the church just thought it sounded good and threw it in there.
Well, my guess would be that those men, born of women are the "unsaved heathens" of the world, and those that are born into the kingdom of God are those that have been "born again" by accepting Christ as their savior.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Not sure if this is Religion Forum or UFO Forum ....
Yesterday's reading was Matthew 11:2-11 - Part of it reads like
this - "I solemnly assure you, history has not known a man,
BORN OF WOMAN, greater than John the Baptizer. Yet the
least born into the kingdom of God is greater than he."
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Not sure if this is Religion Forum or UFO Forum ....
Yesterday's reading was Matthew 11:2-11 - Part of it reads like
this - "I solemnly assure you, history has not known a man,
BORN OF WOMAN, greater than John the Baptizer. Yet the
least born into the kingdom of God is greater than he."
Now, none of us were there 2,000 years ago when these words
were spoken so all we can do is guess and hypothesize based on
other scripture readings, etc. ...
Why didn't He (Jesus) just say - History has not known a man
greater than John the Baptizer. WHY did He feel the need to
put in BORN OF WOMAN? I know ... no one here is Christ, but
does anyone have any ideas on why he had to specify men
BORN OF WOMAN? Were there men NOT born of woman?
Was He talking about men vs angels? Was He talking about
those giants that the bible says roamed the earth? Was He
alluding to OTHERS that were not born of woman ... like space
creatures (ET's)?? Was he talking about those who have already
died and are in heaven ... the saints as those others not born
of woman? (that'd be a stretch)
Any thoughts on why He used the words 'BORN OF WOMAN'??
Originally posted by gps777
John the baptist was the first man to say that everyone needed to be born again of the Holy Spirit,so the least of these born again into the Kingdom of heaven were greater than the baptist,because born again Christian`s are not of this world therefore they are greater than he(John).Hope that helps you.
Originally posted by DrHoracid
Genisis speaks of Son of God and daughters of man. These were half-gods. I forget the proper term. But may have been to source of the greek and norse "gods".
Basically saying do as I say, when I say, dont question and you'll be rewarded. To any intelligent person it would seem ridiculus to not think for yourself and not question the acts of others.
Ok.. so the reward for obeying without question is to be placed in a position of power as a dictator ruling people with an iron fist and smashing the 'people' into pieces of pottery.
So whatever any priest says in any church is automatically true, simply because the spirits he heard in his head told him so?.
"Religion is a social disease of the intellectually disabled."
Originally posted by Nygdan
Wouldn't john the baptist have been baptized?