Correcting problems created by POTUS and Dems

a reply to: buster2010

Buster, buster, buster... you're wasting pixels. People here are of four types: Democrats where everything is the fault of the Republicans; Republicans where everything is the fault of the Democrats; those that have awakened to the notion that after generations the current system is beyond broken and we need a whole new paradigm; and those that don't care or are clueless. If people in the first two camps haven't figured it out by now nothing you or anyone else says will make any difference whatsoever. The pixels you are wasting could be used for something useful like porn.

The Republican's have screwed up every thing they touch.

If the GOP is our Knight in Shining Armor....We are screwed.

We must reject party line thinking every time we see it.

The answer is ... Nobody in DC gives a damn about you.

They are there to get rich. And, they do.

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Ceeker63
a reply to: ScientificRailgun I do not believe it is only the Democrats that cause problems. However, for the last 6 years it has been ALL DEMOCRATS. I can blame every issue in the last 6 years on every Democrat in Congress, Senate, and President. As far as what happened in the past with Republicans sure there where mistakes, however the way I see it they did not hurt anyone as much as the Democrats have.

It has not been all Democrats for the last six years. The Republicans have had the majority in the house for the last two years. if you don't know enough about the government to know this then you really need to brush up on your history.

Republicans took the majority in the House in the 2010 election. They've had the House for 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014.

Democrats had a full Congress during 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010.

> Just keeping the records correct.

> and oddly enough, the economic recovery seems to have started in 2011. Hmmm.

originally posted by: Ceeker63
I have two question: 1.) If a Republican becomes the next POTUS, with Republicans in charge of Congress and Senate. How long do you all think it will take to correct the problems that our current POTUS and Democrats have created? 2.) Now I know that not all will ever be fixed. But which ones do you all see being corrected?

Impossible to determine.

Obama isn't finished doing the damage !!

a reply to: xuenchen

Keep drinking the Us vs Them punch.

The problem isn't which one side or the other. The whole damn system is broken.

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: xuenchen

Keep drinking the Us vs Them punch.

The problem isn't which one side or the other. The whole damn system is broken.

And there it is! The people need to dump both parties and fight corruption... The two party system continues to fail. I say just let it go. Get back on our feet with Non party affiliated members of Government who vote based on what the people in there district actually want and need. Then set strict term limits. Take the money out of the vote buying and lobbyism that has corrupted these leaders.

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: xuenchen

Keep drinking the Us vs Them punch.

The problem isn't which one side or the other. The whole damn system is broken.

I have never once voted for either.

And I've been voting for many years.

a reply to: PsychoEmperor I agree with your statement completely. I would hope to find a conservative like Regan. He did a lot of good for America. Oh sure he had problems, but what President does not. But at least he was able to work with both Republicans and Democrats in Congress and Senate. They got things done.

a reply to: ScientificRailgun I would vote for a libertarian candidate if he was saying and doing the right things. But that party can not seem to find anyone with deep enough pockets to make it through the grueling process we have in place to elect a President. If it was up to me electing a President would not take more than a month. But right now we are kind of stuck with a two party system, no matter how flawed it is. Big money talks. To bad we can not keep lobbyist out of DC. We should also prevent retiring politicians from working with lobbying firms in DC on K street.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Ceeker63
a reply to: ScientificRailgun I do not believe it is only the Democrats that cause problems. However, for the last 6 years it has been ALL DEMOCRATS. I can blame every issue in the last 6 years on every Democrat in Congress, Senate, and President. As far as what happened in the past with Republicans sure there where mistakes, however the way I see it they did not hurt anyone as much as the Democrats have.

It has not been all Democrats for the last six years. The Republicans have had the majority in the house for the last two years. if you don't know enough about the government to know this then you really need to brush up on your history.

Republicans took the majority in the House in the 2010 election. They've had the House for 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014.

Democrats had a full Congress during 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010.

> Just keeping the records correct.

> and oddly enough, the economic recovery seems to have started in 2011. Hmmm.

YEAH!

And what do we have to show for it ?

18 trillion dollar deficit.

Effing $787 'stimulus'.

The GD 'affordable' shaft act that was bigger, and more intrusive than the GD Patriot Act.

And the $1.2 trillion dollar student loan debt.

The GD Frank Dodd Act that did nothing to fix Fanny, and Freddy.

We got the IRS being used as the Gestapo to silence the administrations critics.

We had the DOJ finishing off journalists that were critical.

WE got 4 dead Americans in Benghazi.

Now we want to be all best buds with Cuba.

We got Fast, and Furious that destabalized Mexico more than it already was.

Before that we got Nafta that effed up both South, and Central America more than it already was.

That created MORE illegal immigration so the 'emperor' can 'fix' that with the wave of his mighty pen.

And they have the GD nerve to cry about the Republicans who only held 1 house.

That could do jack snip because Reid was blocking EVERYTHING the house tried to do.

Oh that is when their hero wasn't bombing the hell out of Libya,making sweet heart deals with the muslim brotherhood in Egypt,Iran, aiding terrorists in Syria, and just sticking their heads in the sand, and let ISIS create their very own terrorist safe haven.

And the latest example North Korea hacking.

Hell a GD Republican would be a welcome change from the last 6 years of boneheaded move after bone headed move.

a reply to: Ceeker63

I don't really think it's an issue of deep pockets, I think it's more about when the left/right seeing an indy opponent, they tag-team him until the media is convinced this indy candidate is some kind of nutball and he's reduced to the status of "Well, I guess ANYBODY can run for POTUS these days" followed by various snickering/nudging/winking.

a reply to: buster2010

And with comments like that, just show that you have fallen for the divide. Obama, Bush, whoever and whatever takes over office will only help the decline of America. I've given up any hope I once had that a president could help us. It's up to the people to help themselves.

And how do we help ourselves? By being united. Doesn't matter if you identify with republicans or democrats, you're "part of us", a bigger picture. Picking a side and hoping for the best is exactly what will get us further into the hole. Liberals and conservatives, we need to work together.

Once we can start concentrating on the issues at hand, instead of each other, maybe then we'll start seeing progress made. Until then, try not to get blind sided by politics. It's only a diversion.

originally posted by: YouNeedMe

originally posted by: Ceeker63
I have two question: 1.) If a Republican becomes the next POTUS, with Republicans in charge of Congress and Senate. How long do you all think it will take to correct the problems that our current POTUS and Democrats have created? 2.) Now I know that not all will ever be fixed. But which ones do you all see being corrected?

Same Sh*t different A**holes, only the names will change.

No, I believe it's "same # different day, bigger pile smaller shovel.

Elections.....?

two words.....Electoral College....and until that issue is addressed all the discussions about getting rid of the two party system as applied to the POTUS is just foolish and

a reply to: olaru12

As our system is set up.

There can only be two things.

The majority.

The minority.

That means only D's and R's.

It would be different if people were actually taught what 'democracy' truly is: mob rule.

Now if people were taught what we really are: constitutional republic more choice would exist.

As it stands neither right nor left will give up the charade.

a reply to: neo96

You have a really short memory.

The last republican oresident was no better that the current or former democrat and therr no reason to think the next R OR D president will be any better.

And the USA is not being "best buddies" to cuba, its just looking at normalizing relations.
What was the point of the embargo? What purpose did it serve? None.
And dont say "human right" as1) the USA is allies with a lot worse 2) the USA has no moral right to dictate to other countrys

GOP WILL take the power and RUN.
I just pray to GOD they don't start ww3,OH WAIT, they still have to shoehorn women into combat FIRST before the draft.
Then EVERYBODY can go and become like.... ME!

a reply to: neo96

I agree.



Democrats are the worst of all worlds.

originally posted by: MrSpad
Well I do not think anybody is going run on a platform that says we are taking back your healthcare, we are going to stop job growth, going to restart some long term wars, and we want to go back when most of the Planet was angry at us.

Just some silly numbers.

U.S. employment numbers have been on the rebound for months.

The U.S. economy added 321,000 jobs in November, one of the strongest gains in three years.

The unemployment rate has steadily fallen and is now 5.8 percent, the lowest level since June 2008.

But Camarota and Zeigler say that employment numbers for U.S.-born workers has still not returned to pre-recession levels, while it returned to pre-recession levels for immigrant workers in 2012 “and has continued to climb.”

Overall, the number of U.S.-born workers fell from 124,014 million in November 2007 to 122,558 million in November 2014. Foreign-born workers, who make up 17 percent of the workforce, increased from 23,104 million to 25,108 million in the same time period.

The BLS figures showed that 11 million fewer U.S.-born workers are in the labor force now compared to 2007, and that figure has not improved in the last year.

Report: Immigrant workers account for all employment growth since 2007

Yeah that's success.

originally posted by: Bilk22

originally posted by: MrSpad
Well I do not think anybody is going run on a platform that says we are taking back your healthcare, we are going to stop job growth, going to restart some long term wars, and we want to go back when most of the Planet was angry at us.

What planet do you live on? The rest of the world hates us even more since this guy got elected.

Nah, America bashing is so 2004, lol.