james bond movies....which one(s) are the best

ive resisted bond movies for me entire life. always thought they would be more cheese than anything.
well, since it has been confirmed that christoph waltz will be the new villian, oberhauser, i am going to work my way through them but i am starting with the most recent series and working backwards.
for me, these types of movies are more about the action, effects, and tech with plot being somewhere in the middle of them and script and acting coming at the end.
so, for those reasons i am starting with the daniel craig incarnations of bond and will attempt to go back to the first.
i have seen bits and pieces of a couple of brosnan bonds but never any others.
i watched casino royale last night and i am watching quantum of solace right now. skyfall will be tonight.
i have to say i am enjoying them.

so, what are your favorite films, favorite bond, and of course fav villian?

im sure most bond fans will say i am going about it wrong and that roger moore or perhaps sean connery are the only true bonds and i should start at the beginning, but i wont.

so what say you?

I was never a fan of Bond movies. But, I did catch the end of an older film where he was in outer space. Reentering the Earth's atmosphere in a shuttle after a space station exploded. And I believe it had a huge man with metal teeth in it. I'm so lost when it comes to Bond.

Didn't the original Q die?

Thunderball, From Russia with Love and Live and Let Die would be my fav's.

a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

maybe moonraker?
intrepid, those are connery right?

im sure most bond fans will say i am going about it wrong and that roger moore or perhaps sean connery are the only true bonds and i should start at the beginning, but i wont.

Then you are missing the best of James Bond. My favorite is still the first Bond movie and that's Dr. No.

a reply to: Grovit

The first 2. Live and Let Die was Moore's first.

originally posted by: Grovit
a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

maybe moonraker?
intrepid, those are connery right?

Thunderball, From Russia with Love was Connery Live and Let Die was Moore.

a reply to: Grovit

Perhaps Moonraker.

This might interest some Bond fans. My mother was a huge collector of Timothy Dalton (his Bond years) memorabilia. The action figures, autographs, books and copies of films. A very narrow Bond focus, since I believe he only made a few of those films.

I do remember people laughing because they claimed he was one of the worst Bonds. I never saw one of his movie though so I can't personally say.

a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

He was. Moore put the nail in my interest for Bond and Dalton drove it home.

a reply to: buster2010

i will get to them.
going backwards.
if i had seen them when i was younger or was old enough to remember when they were new i would feel differently.

i was that way with star wars too. as big a movie buff as i am, and i am 37, the first star wars i ever saw was episode 3. then i went back and watched the original 3 and i just didnt like them as much.
acting, tech, effects...just not the same.

i do want to keep this about bond but i think thats why i feel that way..
there is no nostalgia factor for me.
casino royale(with craig) was the first bond movie i have ever seen and i saw it last night.

i just assumed they would be all cheese.

i mentioned that i had seen bits and pieces...
i was watching one with brosnan, dont remember the title but i think it was with denise richards. she was christmas jones.
the scene i was watching had bond and christmas jones banging and after they were done he looked at her and said "i thought christmas only came in december"...
total cheese and that right there put me off to the whole franchise.

i did notice some cheese in casino royale, like when whats her face, vermouth or vesper or whatever her name is talked about bonds perfectly formed ass.

a reply to: intrepid

One of the worst? I know he's naturally silly and very comedic, maybe that's what went against him?

Live & let die. Superb.

While not one of the better ones Diamonds are Forever is easily the funniest. The 2 gay assassins. Bambi and Thumper. And Plenty:

I liked anything with Moore and connery. Everything after that kinda sucked.
The new guy is ok but they left out the bond wit. That was a big mistake.
Live and let die and moonraker are my favorites.

a reply to: intrepid

diamonds was great! Forgot about that one.

From Russia with Love - best cat fight ever

You Only Live Twice - Sean Connery gets given slitty eyes and trained to be a ninja.

Diamond are Forever - supremely hot redhead chick.

It's all subjective. The most widely considered "best Bond of all time" is Goldfinger.

My personal faves:

"The Spy Who Loved Me"
"Goldfinger"
"The Man With The Golden Gun"
"Live and Let Die"
"Octopussy"

In a nutshell

Sean Connery Bond Movies:
Good plots, good acting. No special effects at all, very slow, long, drawn out scenes typical of older movies. Not a lot of focus on gadgets or tech. Bond is serious, misogynistic, with a little bit of perverted humor.

Roger Moore bond movies:
Bad plots, bad acting, especially the later ones. Lots of campy humor and jokes. Bad special effects, and stupid Benny hill type sound effects. Almost feel like these movies are a comedy and not an action movie. Bond is a goofball.

Timothy Dalton bond movies:
Good acting, OK plots. Very serious. Not really any special effects or anything crazy. Bond is very serious, no humor at all, a cold killer. Some people don't like Dalton, but he plays perfectly who Bond was in the books.

Pierce Brosnan bond movies:
OK acting, OK plots. LOTS of special effects and cgi, to a point in the later movies where it's way too much. Lots of focus on the bond gadgets and tech. Bond is kind of a meathead, but not a goofball like Roger Moore was. He is similar to Connery in that he's a little perverted, though not as swift and sly as Connery was.

Daniel Craig bond movies:
Good acting, confusing plots. Gritty, violent. No special effects or cgi. No focus on gadgets or tech. Shaky camera. Craig is cold blooded and lacks humor, similar to Dalton.

Overall, I like Connery the best, however Dalton and Craig are closer to who Bond was supposed to be. Moore, bless his heart, is a good actor, but most of the the bond movies he was in were garbage.
ETA...
A few Roger Moore movies were really good. But he was in so many other bad ones.

originally posted by: WP4YT
In a nutshell

Sean Connery Bond Movies:
Good plots, good acting. No special effects at all, very slow, long, drawn out scenes typical of older movies. Not a lot of focus on gadgets or tech. Bond is serious, misogynistic, with a little bit of perverted humor.

Roger Moore bond movies:
Bad plots, bad acting, especially the later ones. Lots of campy humor and jokes. Bad special effects, and stupid Benny hill type sound effects. Almost feel like these movies are a comedy and not an action movie. Bond is a goofball.

Timothy Dalton bond movies:
Good acting, OK plots. Very serious. Not really any special effects or anything crazy. Bond is very serious, no humor at all, a cold killer. Some people don't like Dalton, but he plays perfectly who Bond was in the books.

Pierce Brosnan bond movies:
OK acting, OK plots. LOTS of special effects and cgi, to a point in the later movies where it's way too much. Lots of focus on the bond gadgets and tech. Bond is kind of a meathead, but not a goofball like Roger Moore was. He is similar to Connery in that he's a little perverted, though not as swift and sly as Connery was.

Daniel Craig bond movies:
Good acting, confusing plots. Gritty, violent. No special effects or cgi. No focus on gadgets or tech. Shaky camera. Craig is cold blooded and lacks humor, similar to Dalton.

Overall, I like Connery the best, however Dalton and Craig are closer to who Bond was supposed to be. Moore, bless his heart, is a good actor, but most of the the bond movies he was in were garbage.
ETA...
A few Roger Moore movies were really good. But he was in so many other bad ones.

I agree with much that you said. Roger Moore was, hands-down, the worst. The man can't act a lick. Pierce Brosnan didn't have the physicality to be a convincing Bond. He got by on charm and self-deprecating humor. And the Brosnan Bond films were filled with ludicrous stunts and special effects.

I never thought I would say that someone was a better Bond than Sean Connery, but I think Daniel Craig has surpassed him on all counts. He's got the physicality (you really believe he can do those stunts), he's a much better actor than any of the others, and he's got charm. I don't agree that he lacks humor. It's dry humor which is more to my taste.

As films, the Daniel Craig Bonds are far superior to the previous Bond films, with some of the Sean Connery films coming in second. One thing I especially like about the Daniel Craig Bond films is that they depict Bond as a complex human being with deep emotions and a past, not a cardboard, suave action figure. Also, the Daniel Craig Bond films don't rely on gadgets and special effects -- the very worst parts of most of the other Bond films.

I don't judge films based on the books. I judge them as stand-alone works of art. To judge them based on books is like criticizing a painting because it doesn't look like a photograph or criticizing a song because it isn't like a painting. They're different art forms.

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

He was. Moore put the nail in my interest for Bond and Dalton drove it home.

Give Daniel Craig a try. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.