Greater Community Spirituality

originally posted by: AllyofHumanity9220

originally posted by: Tangerine

originally posted by: AllyofHumanity9220

So now you're retracting your claim that you explored other religious traditions. I see. What old religious faiths? How would you know "what is true in all religions" if you haven't actually explored any? There are thousands of religions and now you're speaking for all of them? God? God is only recognized by the three Abrahamic religions. I see, so your religion is simply the Abrahamic religions plus aliens.

No. Mainly Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Zoroastrianism, Jainism, Islam. There are universal spiritual truths underlying all religions. There are billions of religions in the universe, but God does not belong to any one of them. While the monotheistic religions are certainly different from pantheist or even some panentheist beliefs, the ideas and beliefs associated with God are usually a result of human speculation and projection. The Greater Community Way of Knowledge is the universal spirituality.

"Fundamentally the purpose of all spiritual development and religious education in its truest sense is to build a connection between your thinking mind, which is a product of all the world’s influences, and the deeper mind within you that God has created within you."

The Age of Women (November 14, 2007)

More gibberish. There is no God in Buddhism or Zoroastrianism. You'd know that if you weren't making up your claim to be familiar with those belief systems. As I mentioned before, God is an Abrahamic construction. You are applying your personal beliefs (or, rather, your guru/cult leader's personal beliefs) to all religions--thousands of religions. You aren't even aware that there are polytheistic, animistic and shamanic belief systems yet you have the audacity to speak for all. You have so little insight that you don't even realize what you're doing. You're simply spewing the cult mantra like a teenage magazine sales person who knocks on a door and rattles off a litany s/he's memorized.

All religious traditions are initiated by God - by the Presence of God within the individual. God is beyond definition. God is greater than our understanding of God. In the Greater Community Spirituality, God is often referred to as the sum and the Source of all true relationship. The deeper mind within you, called Knowledge, is that part of you that is still connected to God. The fundamental purpose of all religious tradition is to cultivate the desire and capacity to experience the Presence of God.

So you claim. Where is the testable evidence making your claim fact? Without testable evidence, you're expecting us to follow YOU. No thanks. I'll wait for the testable evidence proving your myriad claims.

This understanding is at the heart of Greater Community Spirituality. Reclaiming one's self-knowledge (Knowledge) is the means through which one returns to God.

One has never really ever left God - one has just forgotten what one is, what everything is. One does not return to God or find God. However, God can be realized.

However, the aim of life is not merely enlightenment or inner peace, returning to bask in the glory of oneness with all of Creation - it is to contribute the objectivity and the beneficence of this inner peace to the world through specific relationships.

If peace is found to be the true nature of you then surely that instantly brings harmony to the world...........as you are no longer in conflict with it.

a reply to: AllyofHumanity9220
Here is a much more modern take on 'non duality' if you are interested in looking deeper into the nature of reality.

One has never really ever left God - one has just forgotten what one is, what everything is. One does not return to God or find God. However, God can be realized.

Only in one's imagination has one left God. The essence of Knowledge is objectivity. Reclaiming Knowledge is the journey of reconnecting to one's deeper nature, which lies beyond the realm of the intellect.

If peace is found to be the true nature of you then surely that instantly brings harmony to the world...........as you are no longer in conflict with it.

Indeed, not only does inner peace bring harmony to your life, it also allows you to express your Source here in this reality. If you are able to resolve all inner conflict and return to Knowledge within yourself, you will be able to demonstrate its beneficence in your life. However, your life is not merely a journey of enlightenment, for once you reach this higher vantage point, there will be specific contributions for you to make in conjunction with specific people, related to your deeper nature and to their deeper nature. It is not a matter of personal preference, or personal ambition. It is not a matter of simply being a radiant being and teaching peace and love. You will have to serve this reality and those who will come into this reality after you in a very fundamental way. This is your redemption, for you carry a great gift within you - a gift that must be given in conjunction with the giving of others. This is part of the great Mystery of our life beyond this reality.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Thank you for sharing. The New Message form God is also available online - I would invite you to explore it, if your mind is open and your heart is free. It is quite a sizable teaching, spanning over 9000 pages of transcribed text. You can find it at newmessage.org

originally posted by: AllyofHumanity9220
a reply to: Prezbo369

Beyond your intellect there is Knowledge, the knowing mind. It is the part of you that is still connected to the Mind of God. It is the part of you where the truth is recognised and experienced directly, no matter how clouded it may be. It is connected to all life, through God. Your existence in this world is part of your greater life and evolution in the universe. God has sent you here, and you have elected to come.

Part of you is permanent, extending from beyond this life. It is not your mind or your ideas or your personality. It is your deeper nature. It is what God has created within you. During your life in this world, that part of you becomes overshadowed and misapprehended. You do not follow it, because it is unimpressed by your personal preferences and ideals. It only knows its true purpose, your true purpose, for coming into the world. It is not here seeking fulfilment. It is here to contribute something from the greater reality of which it is a part. It has a predetermined purpose and destiny for coming into the world, which are intrinsic to your deeper nature.

So it's not part of my personality, but it's my deeper nature? and it becomes 'unimpressed'?

Is it a separate entity living inside my body?

You're still being very vague, could you please be more specific.

a reply to: Prezbo369

So it's not part of my personality, but it's my deeper nature?

It is 'that' which knows that you exist.
The personality is overlaying the fact of your being.

a reply to: Prezbo369

You are born into a body, which develops and grows. You are born into a mind, which develops and grows. The "you" that is born into these physical and mental vehicles is the deeper part of you that is not separate from the Mind of God. It is the part of you that will be left when you die, to continue on its spiritual evolution. As you live your life in this world, you develop a personal self in response to your own interpretations of your experiences, which are perceived from your developing and limited perspective. You are influenced and conditioned by the world around you, by your parents and your family and friends, by society at large and by the culture you associate with. Yet underlying all this is the part of you that is still aligned with a deeper current of life within the universe. It is not here for gratification or just randomly, as if by accident. It is here to meet certain others, who are bonded to it through their own design and purpose, to participate in a developing world and to contribute something vital here from the greater reality of which it is a part.

You reclaim your true Self by developing an opening for it in your awareness. Because we are so conditioned, we are constantly watching our thoughts, listening to our own minds babbling on and on. How long can you go without your mind running off and becoming chaotic, like a six-year old on a sugar rush? How often do you over-stimulate your mind? The spiritual mind of Knowledge is quiet, it does not try to shout down your thoughts. It waits patiently for you to recognize those inclinations that it brings into your awareness to guide and protect you.

However, you can engage with it more directly, if you cultivate an inward awareness. Knowledge within you is your connection to the flow of the universe. It wants to go somewhere and do something specific, according to its inherent nature. Part of your nature is based on this deeper nature, while part of you may just be the product of your engagement with the world and your confusion regarding your own experiences. But because Knowledge has come from beyond this reality it is not confused, because it has a perspective that does not currently feature in your awareness - an understanding of your origin and destiny.

Now, there are many more clarifications and insights provided in the New Message from God, many of which I am only beginning to penetrate. One great clarification is on the nature of God, which is described as being the sum and the Source of all relationship. This idea deserves some contemplation, if you are so inclined. Part of the practice in Steps to Knowledge, along with contemplation, is meditation, or inner listening. You develop your capacity for Knowledge by practicing the faculty of mental stillness and mental focus. You learn to use your mind rather than merely being a function of it. I can give more detail, but at this point it would probably be better if you explored the New Message for yourself.

a reply to: AllyofHumanity9220

One great clarification is on the nature of God, which is described as being the sum and the Source of all relationship.

If God is 'the sum and source' of all relationship then God is the 'Absolute' pretending 'Relativity' (relationship) - God is all there is. It must be realized that it has nothing to do with you having relationships with others - as there is no you or others.
God is nothing appearing as everything. The source of everything is God and God is everything that appears. God is the seer and the seen - because it appears that there is a seer of now and an appearance of now it seems like there is two but the two are really one - there can be no relationship if there are not two separate things.
If there are two separate things then there will be conflict - only when the two become one shall the kingdom be revealed.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

And that is why this reality, this reality of perceived separation from God, is where you are now. You are here to reclaim relationship. You are here as part of your spiritual journey back to God.

Hey everyone, indicate if you've been converted by Ally's pitch. He deserves to know how well he's doing. As for myself: not converted.

originally posted by: Tangerine
Hey everyone, indicate if you've been converted by Ally's pitch. He deserves to know how well he's doing. As for myself: not converted.

From one of my previous replies:

I am sharing something that some may find meaningful, if they can recognize it. This is sharing. I do not wish to convert people, because it must be their own decision to follow Knowledge within themselves, born of their own readiness.

originally posted by: AllyofHumanity9220
a reply to: Itisnowagain

And that is why this reality, this reality of perceived separation from God, is where you are now. You are here to reclaim relationship. You are here as part of your spiritual journey back to God.

It is just because there seems to be some 'thing' being perceived by some 'thing other' than what is here that there 'seams' to be separation.

Is there any thing other than what is?

Can one take a 'journey' to what has always been? Any path will lead one astray.

Have you ever heard the story of the prodigal son? It is a metaphor. God looks out at the world of things but it is only when he turns around and returns to where he is seeing from that he will feel at home.

St. Francis of Assisi — 'What we are looking for is what is looking.'

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Well, this is not all of Creation. You come into this reality from an entirely different reality. This is a place where you are free to be an individual expression of your Source. However, being born into a body brings about a certain level of disconnection. You become outer-directed instead of inner-directed. The point is to be a bridge between the two realities, so that you may contribute something permanent into an impermanent world.

originally posted by: AllyofHumanity9220
The point is to be a bridge between the two realities, so that you may contribute something permanent into an impermanent world.

No 'thing' is permanent. 'Things' will come to pass.
The only permanent 'thing' (which is not a thing) is the space which all apparent things come and go in.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

No 'thing' is permanent. 'Things' will come to pass.
The only permanent 'thing' (which is not a thing) is the space which all apparent things come and go in.

I did not mean that you would give birth to objects. I meant that you would contribute a quality that is more aligned with the will and the Mind of God. Your contribution is not for yourself. It is for those who will enter this reality after you.

a reply to: AllyofHumanity9220
It seems that you believe that you have a purpose - that you think you are here to make it better for others.

There is only God - there are no 'others'.
I cannot contribute because there is no 'I' separate to God - there is nothing at all separate from God. God is arising as the present - what is ever separate from Presence?
Every thought, every sensation is the light that shines - God is knowing the light and it is good.

God can be led astray by believing the words and stories he hears - he can believe in things. He can get so engrossed in the things that he believes he is a separate thing and that there are 'other separate things' - he thinks he is an individual when really he is being all that is. When he thinks he is a separate being he seeks to find wholeness in 'other things' (like past and future stories, people and places and events) not realizing nothing can arise without his PRESENCE.
PRESENCE is where everything appears - nothing can appear to have existence outside PRESENCE,
Now is what there is and now is constantly appearing different - what is there to find?

This already is the mind of God.

The mind of God is here now - yet he pretends there is a there and then so he can have an illusionary separate life.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

You can only be separate from God in your imagination.

God has created the physical universe and set all of the forces of nature into motion at the beginning of time. That is all running itself now. God does not have to run the economies of the world or determine the weather of the world. People are given the freedom to learn and make mistakes. People are given the freedom to choose. Although you are not truly separate from God, you perceive yourself thus, because you identify with your mind and your ideas.

When you die, all that will remain of you will be your deeper nature - your Knowledge - and the relationships that you have reclaimed in truth and recognition. You do have a purpose for coming into the world, for entering a body and a mind. You have a purpose for existing. You are on a spiritual journey of evolution, of return back to God, through the reclamation of relationships. Your purpose in the world is to become a conduit for Knowledge, for the will of God to enter into the world, where it is largely denied and rejected. You are here to express your Source, not to follow your ideas and preferences in ambivalence and confusion, in conflict and intolerance.

Even though the Presence of God permeates all things, pervasive and ever present, it is denied and disregarded. Even though the power of Knowledge is latent within you, you do not always follow its direction. You are in ambivalence about it. Your ideas and your judgments, your condemnations and your fears all serve to keep you from participating in life as you were meant to participate - as a contributor of something that represents the greater reality from which you have come.

Objectivity is the essence of Knowledge.

originally posted by: AllyofHumanity9220
a reply to: Itisnowagain

You can only be separate from God in your imagination.

God has created the physical universe and set all of the forces of nature into motion at the beginning of time. That is all running itself now. God does not have to run the economies of the world or determine the weather of the world. People are given the freedom to learn and make mistakes. People are given the freedom to choose. Although you are not truly separate from God, you perceive yourself thus, because you identify with your mind and your ideas.

There is not two things - there is no you and God! (or God and me). There is just God. The 'me' is just an idea God has. God did not do anything in the past - he did not set things in motion at 'the beginning of time'. The beginning and end of time is now. And now is all there is - God is now. In Now the concept of other times appear.
In God all arises and subsides - all things come to pass in the now (in presence of God).

God just pretends time and imagines himself separate.

When you die, all that will remain of you will be your deeper nature - your Knowledge - and the relationships that you have reclaimed in truth and recognition. You do have a purpose for coming into the world, for entering a body and a mind. You have a purpose for existing. You are on a spiritual journey of evolution, of return back to God, through the reclamation of relationships. Your purpose in the world is to become a conduit for Knowledge, for the will of God to enter into the world, where it is largely denied and rejected. You are here to express your Source, not to follow your ideas and preferences in ambivalence and confusion, in conflict and intolerance.

Even though the Presence of God permeates all things, pervasive and ever present, it is denied and disregarded. Even though the power of Knowledge is latent within you, you do not always follow its direction. You are in ambivalence about it. Your ideas and your judgments, your condemnations and your fears all serve to keep you from participating in life as you were meant to participate - as a contributor of something that represents the greater reality from which you have come.

Objectivity is the essence of Knowledge.

If one feels divided from God one will feel that one has a purpose (to bring light into the world?), however, when one realizes God one realizes that the light is ever present and sees that the light is good.
Maybe it feels as if one has to bring light into the world to save others but when one sees the light the world and all others are destroyed. There is no other. God destroys all things because God is found to be all there is.

The light show just plays.