What will lead to the NWO

revengeogmakhno
ok so the status quoe is part of the agenda, and there are some people in the club with other agendas. I am starting to wonder now, is there a centralised leadership? Grand poobah or what ever you want to call it at the top? It would also seem to me that the people with other agendas aside from greed would also be in with other organations that would push for a chang instead of maintaining the status quoe, that sound right?

Red Golem,
That sounds more or less correct to me. The question of centralized leadership is a good one. I have seen and heard claims that one group or another is the "core" but none of it is fully convincing to me.
The explanation that fits what I know could be stated as follows;

There is a wider group of approximately 200 who are very involved and very aware of how the status quo needs to be maintained AND extended, reinforced, etc. Of these, perhaps 25-50 have incredible influence and really know the full extent of what is going on (I am trying to get that last number specified and everyone named). This group acts more or less like a syndicate. They agree on many important things but not everything. Each has their own power and areas of responsibility and usually cooperates with the others. They use those areas to maintain the interests of the syndicate but also to further their own interests and agendas.

Lies, decreasing family values, "Famous" people, false gods, the earth goes insane, the Verichip, another 9-11 style attack, more control from the UN and UNSECO, and I'm sure the BSB going to hell by doing the "Cornu" sign. Bad AJ! BAD! "Aliens=Demons", "Demons=Aliens" sorta deal from the goverment. People leave the God, not just the chruch. The UN brings in a materialistic chruch, we all go to FEMA camps and die. You know happy stuff like that.(Sarcasm).
Seriously, that's about the extent of my knowleadge though.

revengeogmakhno
Ok I think I basically understand what you are saying now. Now I am not that good at spending hours on end researching things on the web. If I had a better chair maby my but would not hurt so much after 30 min or so. However I might be able to take advantage of a situation. If one should come into contact with a bunsiss leader, what might be one or two questions to ask that might reveal the goals of the NWO? Or from what you have been saying, the status quoe world order might be more correct.

They should the "Trinity" days from the Greek Orathdox and Catholic church, which was Jesus' brith week in medival times (9/10-9/12), to one make Christians uneasy and go back to the church thinking it was their actions in judgement. 2. It makes us go against our "Religous Brother and Sisters"(Muslims, people like us, Jews,etc.). And keeps Americans destablized and easy to brainwash.
9/11 bugged me when I witnessed it, not just because of all the death and things, but the Satanic undertones to the events in place. In the Greek church, when Jesus was first introduced he was worshiped as "Hermes" for a while, which makes sense because they both are supposed to be a "Slaves/Working Class Hero" to the people, even though Jesus was a royal.
They did the same thing with the Madrid Train thing. I think they've read John Skiorupski too. To be hypothyicital- let's say fans of a band or some cult called "YAY!"(Their just made up as an example of a BIG religion or movement.) were to preach or encourage people to question these people or assume they exsist, it's easier to do the Nero/Hitler way and discredit them first and then prosecute them in some way gradually, then to just up and kill groups of "rebels" doing coups all the time.
What do you think?

Red Golem
Whenever I have talked to any of that crowd (which is rare for sure), I have usually gotten a whole lot of BS because they tend not to be honest with people who they don't know are "on the right side" of things. In some cases, they come across just as very ambitious, insincere, and with very elitist views. If you ever meet one of the higher members and actually get them to talk honestly, I'd love to hear about it.

BSB2005...
I think you are describing some of their tactics. They have a whole set of such "golf clubs" that they can pull out when it suits them.

I don't think a real NWO would last. Unless every other world leader is part of the same secret society bent on world domination, any attempt to create a totalitarian society all over the world or in the USA would fail.


One possible scenario:

Bush asks for a war on Iran, and a draft turns out to be necessary to get the job done properly.
The left wingers take to the streets and wage mass protests.
Right wingers go out and counterprotest.
Violence ensues.
The government cracks down and enacts a few bills in the interest of preventing future riots like this.
The scale of the crackdown and the preceding violence raises the worst fears among serious libertarians, and they proceed to stockpile weapons, and commence underground arms manufacture and distribution.
The government catches some of these people, prompting a series of Wacoesque events that result in further backlash from the government.

Further crackdowns to prevent these things will produce stricter regulations that by their nature will tend to generate more arrests of innocent people. With this, a number of normal people may decide to join the "survivalist nutjobs", bringing about the formation of a serious domestic rebellion resulting in the breakdown of old partisan lines. In order to deal with the rebels adequately, the government will have to pull its troops back from the Middle East. Once this is done, the rebels will be screwed...maybe. A half-finished war in Iran can't be good for the Middle East, as it could easily destablize the whole region as everyone rushes to do all the things they were afraid to do with the USA breathing down their necks. Africans go on killing each other without much pause, while Europe is left by itself to watch the Middle East destroy itself. It is possible that some nations will be dragged into the conflict, thus widening the problem. Europe will not be very well equipped to deal with this, though, as most of their militaries have been dropped to make room for their lovely socialism.
Meanwhile the US stands poised to crush its rebellion and come out with a more authoritarian and socialist society more likely to stand with Europe and the UN, prone to corrupt dealings with dictators, and prone to listening to the part of the population that would rather tolerate tyranny than pick up a gun. This would be the NWO.
On the other hand, if Russia and/or China were really afraid of this, they might see to it that the rebels won in the USA.

And yes, I realize this bears some similarity to the John Titor thing.

Another possibility is that a coincidence of multiple natural catastrophes drives the religious right insane. The Big One on the San Andreas fault, or the New Madrid fault, the eruption of the supervolcano under Yellowstone Park, a hurricane making it to NYC, an F-5 tornado in any metropolitan area, a tsunami on either of the USA's coasts... even one of these has the potential to get the televangelists preaching about the end of the world. I think it would take three such disasters to get people really nuts. The first one would be met by the usual level of alarm, and thus dismissed. The second one would be met by a greater level of alarm driving the religious types to put out a more intense effort to get the message out--many people would hear them, but still dismiss them. After the third event there would be enough normal people alarmed to sustain a state of panic. The televangelists will believe they have to institute a Christian theocracy in order to appease an angry God, and there will be enough support among the public to make this a possibility. In a surprising move the Vatican will support this movement and similar things will be happening elsewhere in the world. If it stopped there, it's a NWO. However, the book of Revelation might offer some relieving information as to how this scenario will end.

[edit on 1/24/2005 by BeefotronX]

revengeogmakhno
I did not really think I would be able to get a captain of industry talk honestly about the NWO. I just happy to work for a corp. and the head honcho does sometimes talk to the little pea ons, so I thought I might sometimes have a chance to ask a question that might reveal something. I am not to sure how I would go about getting the right info, but will half to play it by ear if it ever happens.

Well, what about the U.S. Government faking another attack on US soil and using that as an excuse for the N.W.O.?

The #s have the entire world right in their goddamn greedy hands.

Right?

If you mean "what will usher in the NWO" I believe it will be the same thing that always brings great change in short time. "Fear"

By that time though you will have to choose who you fear the most. Your creator or the destroyer. It's up to all of us to make that choice individually.

Sit back and ask yourselves. Do you really think the people of the world will just let their governments go to war with each other if this meant a WW3? There would be world wide protests. Unrelenting ones. Not like the ones protesting the Iraq invasion either. The world knows that if there is a world war, then there would be nukes flying. NOBODY wants that. Even if China attacks Taiwan!