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Point A: God exist because the denial of his existence leads a person to a point of absurdity.
(If you deny this claim then you must show that its denial doesn't lead to a point of absurdity)
We know rocks don't float because we can study rocks
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
Reductio ad absurdum. God exist because refuting he exist leaves you with absurdity. (Reductio ad absurdum)
In this context surely could replace the Christian God with whatever the hell I wanted? I mean I could say spaghetti monster allows me to make sense of the world as the noodly appendage created all things to make sense.
Alternatively, what is to stop me claiming physics, dark energy, procedural mathematics, or any other presupposition to lead to an argument about things making sense?
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
The Bible is proven to be a reliable historical document by archaeology over and over again, and everytime its confirmed people just ask for more and more proof.
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
Its saying they can't justify why they use it and why they believe in uniformity in nature, and without justification you only believe and cannot know as per OP....
originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
I thought there was scripture backing it up. Of course I think the "salvation can be lost" side also had some piece of scripture to back up their position as well.
Archaeology and science have proven over and over again that the bible is wrong.
Genesis is proven wrong via science.
Noahs Ark is proven wrong via science and archeology.
Exodus is proven wrong via archeology and numerous historical accounts that counter it
Sure they can justify inductive reasoning and deductive reasoning. You have a preconceived outcome of your inductive reasoning. Confirmation bias. So your inductive reasoning is contaminated. Atheists can use inductive reasoning the same as theists can. Inductive reasoning can be used by theists and non-theists alike, and the level of contamination by preset beliefs determines the validity of the reasoning.
But I could easily pull up theological arguments and scripture quotes that are just the opposite to OSAS
originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: Jainine
I thought there was scripture backing it up. Of course I think the "salvation can be lost" side also had some piece of scripture to back up their position as well.
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame. 7 For the earth which drinks in the rain that often comes upon it, and bears herbs useful for those by whom it is cultivated, receives blessing from God; 8 but if it bears thorns and briers, it is rejected and near to being cursed, whose end is to be burned.
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
a reply to: Pinke
Sure you could replace God with an supernatural entity you chose, but then we would have the question of why you put your faith in that entity?
Why do mushrooms make you hallucinate?
Mushrooms make you hallucinate because they have hallucinogenic properties.
The answer to the question is logically consistent but it proves absolutely nothing.