Putin Threatens the US: Warns of Nuclear Consequences

If anyone is to blame it’s the US.
Their the ones surrounding Russia with NATO sign ups of former Russian client states a breach in the promise given to past Russian leaders.

The US is the one who has been invading overtly and surreptitiously allies of Russia, such as Iraq, Libya, and now their aiding the destruction of Syria.

As well the US constant threatening of Iran.

Not to mention their meddling in the Ukraine which resulted in the overthrow of a pro Russian leader.

Overall it’s the US who has been, is, and likely will continue to be the aggressor.

Obama, the weak-willed wimp has not the courage to defy the rabid neocons or globalist who control him.

originally posted by: Plugin
I think the article is wrong.
This is a better 1:
news.sky.com...

That is correct. OP is just recycled threat. Today was a big celebration in Belgrade, Serbia (remembrance day, WW2, whatever) and Putin was invited as their guest of honor (Serbs are thanking their brothers Ruskies for saving them when in reality it were Bulgarian & Ukrainian divisions, but hey who cares about history anyway) so he held a little speech.

Nothing special and no nuclear threats whatsoever but he did warn Europe about gas supplies. The man is cold

I get it.

You don't like me. Fair enough. You're not the first nor will you be the last.

How your reply is in any way shape or form topic related is beyond me. I'll assume you believe Putin is justified in his actions regarding Crimea and Eastern Ukraine.. Although I can't confirm this suspicion because you haven't really posted anything remotely on topic yet.


Ever consider taking up Yoga?

I hear Yoga does wonders for stress.

Pretty sure Putin was stating "consequences" as in START treaty amendments, new nuke development, nuclear defense etc.

Putin is a raging idiot, but i dont think he meant he was going to launch an attack on the West. If he did, then the man is clearly suicidal and needs to be tken out covertly before he drags humanity into WWIII.

He' s a decade late and about to be a dollar short.

Notice how they always say "the former Soviet Union," rather than just "Russia." Manipulative.

a reply to: princeofpeace

The real "raging idiot" is the US foreign policy under all the presidents since 1991.

Don't blame those who stand up for the interests of their country. Guess they are villains in US dictionary.

Time for several of these complete and partial villains to get together and TEACH US foreign policy real terms of protocol in the global arena................guess once you all see "numbers" you will "bitch peter out" faster than dog can take a quick leak.

Ummm...well theyve all had plenty of chances since 1991 and they havent done anything. My bet is they will continue to STFU or run their mouths buts about it.

a reply to: victor7

The real "raging idiot" is the US foreign policy under all the presidents since 1991.

Don't blame those who stand up for the interests of their country. Guess they are villains in US dictionary.

Time for several of these complete and partial villains to get together and TEACH US foreign policy real terms of protocol in the global arena................guess once you all see "numbers" you will "bitch peter out" faster than dog can take a quick leak.

a reply to: lostbook

Looking at reports from various military bases worldwide, it would seem that ICBMs are easily disabled (some source with videos). I doubt if any of the ET races currently in our world would allow us to destroy this world with nuclear war...

Considering the lengths they are going to to gain human allegiance in a non-violent manner, these are some pretty patient groups we are talking about. They would not want to see their precious efforts wasted, along with all of the super rare biological resources of this marvelous little planet...

originally posted by: SLAYER69
So Putin stomps his feet, cries then threatens humanity with nuclear conflagration because his conquest of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine went over like a fart in Church.


What a nice guy

So what would you say if your country was being set up to fail from outside?

Putin is going with what is actually happening, not what you see on the evening news.

The Russian Federation is being targeted, using negative propaganda, outright lies and severely economically threatened by the West..anyone honest and attentive enough ought to see this by now.

If this was reversed and the US or UK was being aggressively targeted either directly using arms and military weapons, or by using economics and setting up our economies to crash makes no difference, it's an attack that threatens the citizens and infrastructure either way.

What would Obama say i wonder if it was the other way around?

originally posted by: SLAYER69
So Putin stomps his feet, cries then threatens humanity with nuclear conflagration because his conquest of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine went over like a fart in Church.


What a nice guy

The Russian's are being pragmatic. If things keep going the way they are, eventually there will be a nuclear exchange.
The West keeps pushing them and has been doing so hard since the fall of the USSR.
For 25 years this #'s been going on. Maybe the Russian's have had enough? Wouldn't you have had enough if you kept being bullied, and expected to lie down and accept it?
The Russia's are in a position to push back again now. Why shouldn't they?
Why should they sit there and allow them selves to be pushed around? Would our governments?


Whether their national security and sovereignty is really at risk and being threatened, is irrelevant and it's not up to me, you or our governments to decide that for Moscow. What matters is that THAT is what is perceived by Moscow, and THAT is what Moscow will react and adapt and play the game to.

Just like our governments would.

As far as I care, this is an extremely interesting time we are now living in, and things are only going to get more interesting in the years ahead. Just when everyone thought the roller coast ride was over with the fall of the USSR and apparent warming of relations between Moscow and Washington, the ride suddenly kicks up a gear or two.

originally posted by: lostbook

originally posted by: QuietSpeech
a reply to: lostbook

I read that, but the quote they used didn't come across to me as a nuclear threat.

This is what was quoted.

The United States went so far as to declare the suspension of our cooperation in space exploration and nuclear energy. They also suspended the activity of the Russia-US Bilateral Presidential Commission established in 2009, which comprised 21 working groups dedicated, among other things, to combating terrorism and drug trafficking.

At the same time, this is not the first downturn in relations between our countries. We hope that our partners will realize the futility of attempts to blackmail Russia and remember what consequences discord between major nuclear powers could bring for strategic stability. For our part, we are ready to develop constructive cooperation based on the principles of equality and genuine respect for each others’ interests.

I read that and don't see anything regarding a nuclear threat.

But it is...You have to read between the lines somewhat but you will see the threat:

"We hope that our partners will realize the futility of attempts to blackmail Russia and remember what consequences discord between major nuclear powers could bring for strategic stability.

Here they are saying: " you can't stop us...." and "Don't try to stop us because we have nukes...."

Actually, you and most of the other people responding in this thread are wrong about what Putin is implying.

He's saying that a conflict or attempted "regime change" between major nuclear powers can destabilize the power structure in a way that would put the nuclear arsenal at risk of being controlled by smaller uncontrollable and unpredictable factions.

Putin would be right. Frankly, the world is safe from nuclear war as long as the weapons are controlled by stable governments who posture, threaten, and rattle sabers as part of a dog and pony show for the masses. What we don't want is for the weapons to fall into the hands of fanatics which is a possibility if the power structure is disrupted by all-out war or by this crazy proxy-war chess game the US is playing. It's a scenario that has been played out in several works of fiction and for good reason... it's the only logical way a nuclear attack could occur.

a reply to: Answer


Except russia is to blame and is playing the proxy BS game while trying to blame everyone else for russian stupidity.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Answer


Except russia is to blame and is playing the proxy BS game while trying to blame everyone else for russian stupidity.

The U.S. and Russia have both been playing the game for decades.

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Answer


Except russia is to blame and is playing the proxy BS game while trying to blame everyone else for russian stupidity.

The U.S. and Russia have both been playing the game for decades.

The current situation is because of Russia.

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Answer


Except russia is to blame and is playing the proxy BS game while trying to blame everyone else for russian stupidity.

The U.S. and Russia have both been playing the game for decades.

The current situation is because of Russia.

How?
Expand on your comment. What's your theory why Russia is to blame?

The USSR collapsed, the Warsaw Pact finished.
But NATO remained, and NATO continued to expand. All the way to Russia's borders.
The West, America, continue to meddle in the Russian sphere of influence, trying to dismantle as much of it as possible.

The Cold War might be over, but the mentalities on both sides remain.
NATO and Russia might publicly have been "partners" with Russia having a seat at NATO, but in reality partnership couldn't be further from the truth.

The false reality, the illusion that NATO was Russia's partner was only capable of being maintained so long as Russia remained weak.
But Russia is no longer weak like it was in the 1990's following the collapse of the USSR.
Russia is resurgent and Russia will continue to become stronger, and therefore start to exert influence to protect it's interests and it's sphere of influence, like it already has started to do.

Under such circumstances, the West can't maintain the illusion that they are Russia's partner. Not at home and not with Moscow.
So the media vultures have been set loose and the demonizing of Russia and it's leaders has begun again.

originally posted by: Hushabye
Notice how they always say "the former Soviet Union," rather than just "Russia." Manipulative.

Given Putin's history in the KGB and his stated feelings about the USSR [three thumbs up], it's far from inaccurate.

originally posted by: mortex



How?
Expand on your comment. What's your theory why Russia is to blame?

The USSR collapsed, the Warsaw Pact finished.
But NATO remained, and NATO continued to expand. All the way to Russia's borders.
The West, America, continue to meddle in the Russian sphere of influence, trying to dismantle as much of it as possible.

Why does Russia deserve a "sphere of influence"?

This is still imperial thinking.

NATO continued to expand because the countries in question CHOSE NATO. In particular they chose NATO after having decades of close-up experience with Russia and USSR. Denmark sure didn't rush to join the Warsaw Pact in 1991.

Putin still doesn't think that they get to make their own choices, and therefore he projects his own attitudes onto the West, assuming that it must be some centrally directed plot.

The Cold War might be over, but the mentalities on both sides remain.

Mostly one side: Russia.

The false reality, the illusion that NATO was Russia's partner was only capable of being maintained so long as Russia remained weak.
But Russia is no longer weak like it was in the 1990's following the collapse of the USSR.
Russia is resurgent and Russia will continue to become stronger,
and therefore start to exert influence to protect it's interests and it's sphere of influence, like it already has started to do.

Is that a right only enjoyed by Russia? Because they covet their neighbors they deserve it?

Why can't Poland and Ukraine and Estonia protect their interests and their sphere of influence---like their own XXXing country? They aren't any fool.

They look deep in to that man's soul and they see a K, a G, and a B.

Under such circumstances, the West can't maintain the illusion that they are Russia's partner. Not at home and not with Moscow.
So the media vultures have been set loose and the demonizing of Russia and it's leaders has begun again.

Putin's doing a good job of it on his own, like turning his country back into a one party dictatorship, stealing part of another.

Putin's cronies have been far ahead with their own hysterical demonizing propaganda.