Ebola Disaster in Spain

Through an unbelievable timeline of events, now there is an Ebola crisis in Spain. Healthcare struggles against Ebola due to being crippled by Austerity. Healthcare professionals describe lack of equipment, procedures and funds while government blames everyone else.

Ebola Disaster in Spain

String of events through which the Ebola crisis in Spain started and developed. Contains many details which are left out in western mass media, like how the government is blaming a doctor for 'being too tall'.

a reply to: unity100

I have been keeping an eye on this. I have most of my family in Spain. I dont even know what to say.

Well I will say this. If Spain had been hit 10 years ago, it would have had
one of the best health care systems in the word to deal with this. NOW, I would place Spain´s healthcare system just above Mexico. Its not even a shell of its former glory. This can only get worse.

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: unity100

I have been keeping an eye on this. I have most of my family in Spain. I dont even know what to say.

Well I will say this. If Spain had been hit 10 years ago, it would have had
one of the best health care systems in the word to deal with this. NOW, I would place Spain´s healthcare system just above Mexico. Its not even a shell of its former glory. This can only get worse.

its definitely not a good prospect. especially this bit - from another news, which article references :

".....Healthcare activists report that Madrid’s authorities decided to "dismantle" the infectious diseases center at the Carlos III hospital just months before the Ebola patients were brought there.

The “dismantling” has led to Ebola being “treated in a place that did not meet adequate security conditions,” according to a spokesman for the Public Health Service Defense Federation, Dr Marciano Sánchez Bayle.

“The whole section devoted to infectious illnesses has been closed,” he explained in an interview with Euronews. “The professionals who worked there have been moved to other positions. The laboratory was closed, and so was the intensive care unit. It’s just to say that, one way or another, its capacity to take care of illnesses with these characteristics has been most remarkably reduced.”...."

a reply to: unity100

The blame lands firmly at the feet of the person who authorised the bringing home of the ebola infected patients without knowing that there were adequate facilities and procedures in place to safely deal with this level 4 bio hazardous virus.

It seems like we in the west can't effectively deal with one or two cases. I hate to think of how much of a shambles they make of dealing with 20 or 30 infected people at once.

a reply to: unity100

I read your link. The story being told could be the script from a B comedy movie , if it were not based on ebola. This very same scenario seems to be developing in Dallas ...what with releasing Duncan and then the fiasco with Judge Jenkins. The flights out of W.Africa need to be stopped and the medical procedures tightened up.....now !

originally posted by: ProleUK
a reply to: unity100

The blame lands firmly at the feet of the person who authorised the bringing home of the ebola infected patients without knowing that there were adequate facilities and procedures in place to safely deal with this level 4 bio hazardous virus.

that would be the conservative government... the missionaries were from the biggest religious order in spain, therefore that move would appease a lot of right wing religious voters.

originally posted by: ProleUK
It seems like we in the west can't effectively deal with one or two cases. I hate to think of how much of a shambles they make of dealing with 20 or 30 infected people at once.

i dont know how is the situation in other countries. uk may be problematic because tories had been doing austerity and privatization there too. france, if im not mistaken did not defund their healthcare. i dont think there will be any problems in countries like germany, denmark, sweden, norway etc - who never kill their healthcare or push austerity.

italy could be a huge problem.

a reply to: unity100

whats great is we in the west dont have the "We dont have the right equipment" excuse.......

We can GET the equipment in a heartbeat from places all over the country..........hell the CDC headquarters is in Georgia just a hop and skip from Texas where our first case.......

Nah, thats not our problem.........

We just CHOOSE not to use the right protection against this thing.......just ask the street washes, school clean up crew, people at the hospital and people who watched over the quarantined family, including that sherriff who now might have it...

Nahhh lack of equipment isnt our issue.........

STUPIDITY is our issue

Spain>China>

Spain>Russia>

Spain>Europe>

Spain>South America>

South America>Europe>Russia>China>>>>>>>>>America

post by multiple ats members
There is no way an Ebola outbreak is going to happen in the first world.

a reply to: unity100

So... first of all, this article gives no facts about the number of people who are now infected in Spain, other than to say that a couple of missionaries and a nurse have been infected. I hate to point it out, because it will seem snarky, but three infections does not a crisis make, and until infection rates spiral way up, there will not be a crisis.

It is however, very concerning that any nation in the European Union, is without full scale infectious disease control planning and infrastructure, whether or not there are actual crisis levels of infection present in its population.

From your site:

As of this moment, the main hospital who is dealing with Ebola cases is asking volunteer doctors and nurses to help, because they are overwhelmed with people coming to test and hospital’s normal workload.

With nurses striking, this is going to be a disaster for Ebola and non-Ebola patients alike.

It's also disconcerting that they just so happened to dismantle the infectious diseases center at the Carlos III hospital just months before the Ebola patients were brought there. It sounds suspicious because Ebola has been around for some time and pretty much immediately after dismantling, they receive Ebola patients. Did everyone lose their damn mind?

Spain health system is crap, you can go with anything and only thing you would get is Ibuprofen. Around 2 years ago a coworker was feeling ill for some time, always headaches for days she started to puke and went to her doctor, ibuprofen and go home was the diagnose, she keep getting worse and when i find out i told her she was crazy, it was clearly high blood pressure, so she went to the hospital and by that time her kidneys were already useless. 6 times she went to her doctor and never got a simple pressure check.

Anyways its to soon to say if we are doom or not, i will say we are depending on the number of cases at December

originally posted by: conspiracytheoristIAM
a reply to: unity100

I read your link. The story being told could be the script from a B comedy movie , if it were not based on ebola. This very same scenario seems to be developing in Dallas ...what with releasing Duncan and then the fiasco with Judge Jenkins. The flights out of W.Africa need to be stopped and the medical procedures tightened up.....now !

It is too late the genie is out of the bottle, or pandora's box is open.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: unity100

So... first of all, this article gives no facts about the number of people who are now infected in Spain, other than to say that a couple of missionaries and a nurse have been infected. I hate to point it out, because it will seem snarky, but three infections does not a crisis make, and until infection rates spiral way up, there will not be a crisis.

It is however, very concerning that any nation in the European Union, is without full scale infectious disease control planning and infrastructure, whether or not there are actual crisis levels of infection present in its population.

It says that one person is being treated for ebola, and there are 7 total suspected cases.

a reply to: whatnext21

Because of the open U.S. borders and how those in control (WHO, CDC , our government) are reacting, I think you are right.

I don't think it should be called an "outbreak" until at least over 100 people have it in a given area. If you watched a movie called "outbreak" and 8 people had the disease, you'd want your money back.

a reply to: unity100

So... one confirmed case?

And they are loosing their minds about it?

Look, I am in full agreement that the Spanish healthcare system is not up to the challenge of dealing with full on outbreak conditions, medically speaking. However, Spain is a European country, part of the EU, and the EU should be, as an entity of great power and prestige, capable of parachuting in enough equipment and personnel to deal with this threat.

The fact that Spain ought to be able to look out for itself better than it currently can is neither here nor there. Having a hissy fit will solve nothing, and the leadership of the Spanish government need to go over the health ministers head, and request help from the EU government, and the governments of other nations, and they need to do it now, rather than waiting till something which no amount of money, manpower, or specialist gear can possibly deal with starts to happen, like runaway contraction of the virus by huge numbers of people for example.

a reply to: unity100

It seems like some kind of joke.

I've just seem reports the UK governments to introduce screening at airports. That's changed quickly from earlier on today when I saw a spokesman saying there was no need for it.

This has been building for ages. It all just seems a bit weird to me.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: unity100

So... one confirmed case?

You apparently did not read the article attentively. You must.

people are not losing their minds over one confirmed case. people are losing their minds over the handling of the issue and unpreparedness of the healthcare system to deal with an epidemic due to austerity cuts. the conservative government brought the missionary to such a system. and ironically they were the ones who shut the epidemic treatment center down a few months ago apparently.

it is not known how many people she was in contact with until she went to hospital. she went on a vacation, she used madrid subway. this is just one nurse. there were many nurses and doctors who dealt with those two missionaries. if one nurse is infected with ebola, its possible there are others too. and no one knows how many people they are in contact with.

there are times for losing your mind and going berserk.

a reply to: unity100

I did read the report attentively, and still saw no reason for alarmist behaviour surrounding the circumstances. The reason for this is that there are simple solutions, such as the one I outlined involving calling for immediate material, and human resources aid from the EU, and its member states, to totally contain the virus wherever it is found, something that the Spanish government clearly cannot do for itself at the moment, but needs doing regardless.

When, and only when, they fail to do that, and people begin to die in their hundreds, will there be a crisis. Preventing that crisis however, should be at the top of every agenda. Unfortunately, that would require the government of Spain to actually decide that on reflection, saving face is a very much secondary consideration to that of saving lives.

The chances of that happening may be slim, but let us not compare this situation to that of say Sierra Leone, which IS in crisis. To do so would be foolish.

a reply to: TrueBrit

The fact they even had one case when it was supposed to be controlled conditions is bad.

Just wait till they have 100 uncontrolled cases.