Ebola: Controlling the Information Flow

The US and Canada signed a trilateral Health Agreement with Mexico to "share communications plans and statements with one another before releasing them to the public" during "health emergencies." Reports out of Liberia say "Liberian Ministry of Health and Social Welfare and Ministry of Information have reportedly established a new Ebola media policy. Healthcare workers will not be allowed to give any information and no interviews will be conducted without advance approval from the Ministry of Information." Meanwhile, Nigeria had the controls on from the getgo.

We can't count on government or the media - nobody will tell the truth. We all need to cultivate "inside sources." Even Sahara Reporters is gagged now.

Governments to "Share" Emergency Health Information BEFORE Public Release in US, Canada and Mexico

….reports on the Ebola epidemic in Guinea+ remain unreliable.

InternationalSOS
8 October

Liberia:

…..There are several reports that all Ebola media coverage at health facilities will be restricted, to protect the privacy of patients and healthcare workers and ensure safety of staff and journalists. The Liberian Ministry of Health and Social Welfare and Ministry of Information have reportedly established a new Ebola media policy. Healthcare workers will not be allowed to give any information and no interviews will be conducted without advance approval from the Ministry of Information.

Ebola, inside information

No matter how much media control is attempted it won't work for long and the rumors generated by other sources will create more doubt about official messaging which ultimately will lead to potential panic which governments are trying to prevent by message control.

Makes perfect sense right

a reply to: soficrow

Good to know but it sounds a bit like fear porn.

Honestly. If people are going to freak out everytime a deadly virus surfaces then.....I forgot my point.

Ohhhh..... my point was and still is that most people won't become infected with the Ebola virus.

If you do then you're a little bit screwed but I wouldn't loose any sleep.

originally posted by: Phoenix
No matter how much media control is attempted it won't work for long and the rumors generated by other sources will create more doubt about official messaging which ultimately will lead to potential panic which governments are trying to prevent by message control.



Makes perfect sense right

Not sure of your opinion but I somewhat agree or at least I think I do but I could be wrong.

Interesting. So how long will it take for these people to contact all three countries officials and get the ok to release the information when a verified outbreak happens somewhere. Typically it takes a couple of weeks for things to happen in the USA even without having three countries involved. Well, maybe Facebook will be a quicker source to find out things. I suppose that Health Department employees will be told they are not allowed to tell anyone....Oh yeah, that policy is already in effect, there will be no change. Violating a non-disclosure agreement can be severe

a reply to: soficrow

HUmm, Ministry of Majic you say???

Well I have been trying to google to avail who controls WHO/CDC/ and the rest, so this is interesting and timely, wonder if they can be "looked up"?

Is this them? Bangladesh?
www.moi.gov.bd...

originally posted by: rickymouse
Interesting. So how long will it take for these people to contact all three countries officials and get the ok to release the information when a verified outbreak happens somewhere. Typically it takes a couple of weeks for things to happen in the USA even without having three countries involved. Well, maybe Facebook will be a quicker source to find out things. I suppose that Health Department employees will be told they are not allowed to tell anyone....Oh yeah, that policy is already in effect, there will be no change. Violating a non-disclosure agreement can be severe

Honestly I LOL about the comments.

Sure it's a concern but do you really think this is a pandemic?!?

How much do you guys know about the virus? In a first world country it's almost impossible to transmit let alone become a problem.

a reply to: Phoenix

No kidding. But I am hoping people with inside info (NOT rumors) might post it on jadedANDcynical's thread.

a reply to: boogeywoogey

...do you really think this is a pandemic?!?

Erm, obviously not. We're trying to motivate the powers-that-be to take action, and PREVENT a pandemic. But they're not acting quickly enough, or doing the right things.

PS. Paying attention to one's world is not "doom porn."

RE:

In a first world country it's almost impossible to transmit let alone become a problem.

You mean like in Spain? You know, where they already have secondary transmissions.

a reply to: boogeywoogey

With our availability to a variety of foods here we are less susceptible to death or serious health problems but just as susceptible to catching and transmitting the disease. It will still effect some people with a compromised immune system or those who have nutritional deficiencies.

We'll see what comes up in the future I suspect. I'm not worried about it, if I get it I get it. Hopefully my immune system is up to par. It took a year after I quit taking my meds that had immune system supression qualities to them to get my immune system working again. Half the drugs out there have that quality. It keeps the immune system from causing reactions from certain meds.

a reply to: rickymouse

Hate ta break it to ya but Ebola kills healthy young people with strong immune systems - and this strain is no different.

Fresh Graves Point to Undercount of Ebola Toll

….The majority of the recent deaths recorded at the cemetery were young people — young adults, people in early middle age, or children — with very few elderly people on the list. Several of the deaths also occurred in a concentrated area, sometimes in the same house, suggesting that a virulent infection had struck.

a reply to: soficrow

Sure paying attention is not 'doom porn' I apologize.

I'm suggesting you should have the facts straight. You are many times more likely to get hit by a drunk driver than contract Ebola.

There are about 6 billion people on this planet but how many are infected with the Ebola virus? Not very many.....I can and will provide stats if you would like.

a reply to: soficrow

The government of certain countries can tried to control anything they want, the truth is that nobody can control human nature and we humans tend to be gossipers by nature, is always somebody out there that will give the finger to authorizes and talk.

Regardless of the circumstances or repercussions.

Now, it is up to us to thin out the hysteria, the tales from the truth.

Glad to see you back Sofi

originally posted by: soficrow
a reply to: Phoenix

No kidding. But I am hoping people with inside info (NOT rumors) might post it on jadedANDcynical's thread.

Oh yeah! I feel the same! and using word "rumors" was no meaning other than single source unverifiable info w/o links as normal on ATS. In regards to Ebola these inside sources pan out more times than not and I consider them seriously.

a reply to: soficrow
S & F.
At least the readers at ATS won't be drinking the Kool-Aid.
Let's hope that social media and public forums will get -- and keep -- the truth out there.

originally posted by: boogeywoogey
a reply to: soficrow

Sure paying attention is not 'doom porn' I apologize.

I'm suggesting you should have the facts straight. You are many times more likely to get hit by a drunk driver than contract Ebola.

There are about 6 billion people on this planet but how many are infected with the Ebola virus? Not very many.....I can and will provide stats if you would like.

Healthy people get the flu too........

I dont know where you are getting your information but Ebola is spread in exactly the same way that the FLU is spread, and for the record the FLU contrary to popular belief isnt airborne either......

And how many people a year in first world countries contract the flu?

The difference is this kills 50% or more of the people who contract it.......

Just because its not a pandemic now doesnt mean it cant be if its not reigned in.......people blew it off when the isolated cases started in Africa......while other people were watching and saying "this isnt good this is getting out of hand" now look at it down there.......

They down played it again saying "ahh were safe its never going to hit our shores" Then what happened? it did....

This blase' attitude toward it needs to stop..........people dont need to freak out, but they DO need to be vigilant and they DO need to take extra precautions.....

And the medical community DOES need to be brought up to speed on whats going on.....

These doctors didnt get Ebola from cuts on their hands, they could have gotten it from having the virus on their hands, wiping their eyes, picking their teeth, picking their nose or any number of things.......

you dont have to be vomited on to contract this virus......

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Whatever....

If you wish to live in fear feel free.

P.S. - you are wrong influenza is an airborne disease.

www.cdc.gov...

Key Findings: Our results show that influenza patients produce aerosol particles containing measurable amounts of influenza virus while coughing. Further, 65% of the viral RNA was contained within particles in the respirable size fraction. Our study was also able to demonstrate that at least some influenza patients expelled airborne particles containing viable virus.

originally posted by: boogeywoogey
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Whatever....

If you wish to live in fear feel free.

P.S. - you are wrong influenza is an airborne disease.

www.cdc.gov...

There again you arent understanding what youre reading......the flu isnt airborn, it can be SPREAD through the air by particulates from an infected person ........

From your own article

patients expelled airborne particles containing viable virus.

Just like ebola.......

If you wish to live in fear feel free.

I believe i said this

...people dont need to freak out, but they DO need to be vigilant and they DO need to take extra precautions.....

My information is accurate, if you choose not to believe it then dont thats not my problem

a reply to: soficrow

So would that mean that the immune system actually causes an over reaction and eventually death?

originally posted by: rickymouse
a reply to: soficrow

So would that mean that the immune system actually causes an over reaction and eventually death?

from what ive read on ebola it basically thins the lining in the organs, and thin tissue .....causing the bleeding and the organ failures......I could be wrong on the finer points....

your heart stays racing to keep up with the loss of blood pressure and keep your blood moving....

So you can bleed out, die of organ failure or your heart just stops because it gives out trying to keep up