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Vertical takeoff is useless. You can't take off with any useful payload of weapons or fuel.
originally posted by: stuthealien
im not impressed at all with the f35 and the only thing i can see that is any good is the stealth abilities ,i know its old but the harrier was awesome even for urban combat zones with the ability to land in a small carpark ,so groundbreaking america gave us harrier 2,,so where for the love of jah is generation 6 harrier of death with cloaking,,why have we gone backwards,,vertical take off is a must have option in any fighter jet and im deeply saddened we have taken this over priced piece of american crap
No, even the Harrier couldn't perform a vertical takeoff with a useful weapons payload on board.
And they don't operate from fields that close to the front. They operate from fields that are prepared airfields for a reason.
The Harrier's VTOL abilities allowed it to be deployed from very small prepared clearings or helipads as well as normal airfields.[N 5] It was believed that, in a high-intensity conflict, air bases would be vulnerable and likely to be quickly knocked out.[N 6] The capability to scatter Harrier squadrons to dozens of small "alert pads" on the front lines was highly prized by military strategists and the USMC procured the aircraft because of this ability.[N 7] Hawker Siddeley noted that STOL operation provided additional benefits over VTOL operation, saving fuel and allowing the aircraft to carry more ordnance…
originally posted by: KROandSOTV
When you consider that the harrier is a 45yrs old platform,And the f35b is a state of the art fighting machine then yes i would be concerned that it has the same landing problems on a stovl carrier.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Zaphod58
Name once when it was actually used in combat.
That scenario hasn't arisen. But might, the farther NATO pushes into Central Europe and the Middle East.
originally posted by: _Del_
originally posted by: stuthealien the harrier was awesome even for urban combat zones with the ability to land in a small carpark
Can you cite any example of a operational use of Harriers in a urban combat zone involving deployment from carparks?
Your scenario is basically filled by helicopters. Thats why the scenario has never arisen in 30 years.