Next Level BS #7: Open Carry Nuts, Revenge Porn, Stupid Millennials, and more...

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

I have no problem with the thoughts here. The open carry folks are looking for trouble. I hear, when you do that, you usually find it.

I think if everyone assumed everyone else was carrying, there would be a lot less crime, but frightening innocent folks to prove a point will make you and your cause look bad. (IMHO)

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Granted, we are animals that all have to live together, so certain stuff has to be trained in to us from a young age, unfortunately, some of that stuff has to be learned via shame.

Open-carry nutbags?

Please stop masturbating in public.

a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

I knew where you were going with it Kanga!

You keep at it! Even if only one of us laughs, at least you know we are not crying!

a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

if you don't exercise your rights on a regular basis they will be lost

sometime you have take your rights right up to 'line of demarcation' or the line will get moved when you're not looking

The far right wing inability to admit mistakes is really getting old. A Middle aged man hanging around a high school is disconcerting as is, but to add a AR-15 to it is just wrong on so many levels. I'm very pro gun, but really? They thought these were good ideas?

We have the term whats wrong with Kansas? Now its whats wrong with Arizona? Hmm what do these states have in common? Oh they are republican controlled, and just look at the news coming out of these states. You still wonder why republicans are not winning national elections? Hmmm Kansas cut the education budget because of tax breaks for the wealthy because education doesn't matter, its not like its a investment in the future, more like making sure that a part of your population will vote for republicans and democrats!.

And millennial's are no more dumb or smarter than any other generation, look how both dems and reps have dumbed down the entire nation. Boomers have voted for the government and the laws we currently have, if you think we live in a utopia well it just shows how dumbed down we really are. Choosing between a democrat and republican is freedom, just shows how much NLBS we believe in.

I like balanced news with equal bashing of both the right and left, the extremes that is. Moderates are the bomb diggity!!!

Sorry if you think I'm singling out republicans, but frankly quit giving us so much ammo!!

originally posted by: acacko
a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

if you don't exercise your rights on a regular basis they will be lost

sometime you have take your rights right up to 'line of demarcation' or the line will get moved when you're not looking

I can agree with that wholeheartedly. However, if you abuse your rights and act like a dumbass on a regular basis, you are hurting the cause and yourself.

I own guns. Plural. Pistols on the night stands, rifles on the wall, and a shotgun by the door. It is ridiculous to purposefully stir the shiite by doing this in places they know are on high alert. Sorry. There is no way that I am going to agree that it's not shiite stirring behavior to march back and forth in front of a school with an assault rifle and bullet proof vest. It's not going to happen.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

I knew where you were going with it Kanga!

You keep at it! Even if only one of us laughs, at least you know we are not crying!

Ha! Thanks TrueBrit. I have to get it where I can I suppose.

a reply to: LDragonFire

The far right wing inability to admit mistakes is really getting old.

Why yes it is.

Since that is what gun control is a right ideology.

It sure is a mistake to grow government totalitarianism by making more laws that the law already address.

It's against the law to harm or hurt, and murder.

But that doesn't stop it.

So they keep making the same mistakes from the 1934 Gun control Act. to the 1968 NFA to the ASWB of the 90s.

Oh now what was the saying keep doing the same things over and over again expecting a 'different' result is the definition of insanity ?

Making superfluous laws, and eroding what little rights we have left under the false sense of security.

Is a mistake.

Of the one giant kind.

a reply to: theNLBS

Firstly, no-one is more disconnected from reality than politicians - in fact they go around the planet literally making ship up as they go. For instance, do you remember all those WMD's Saddam had stashed in mobile units - proof provided to the UN via power-point presentation (Colin Powell) or, or the Iraqi babies being ripped from their incubators and slaughtered - nurse Nayirah was crying because of it.

Both cases were proven to be utter Next Level Bullship.

Secondly Illinois with its prison-planet style stop and ID laws are laws made by thieving lying politicians to restrict freedom and enforce government dominance - and enforced by militarized thugs with badges.

Did the tax-payers that pay the over-inflated wages of politicians who don't give a ship about the average citizen have any say in the fairness of those laws? Or did the police get more weapons and killing stuff?

Speaking of mental cases carrying weapons in public as Neo so gracefully articulated, here are some pics,

a reply to: neo96

I guess mentioning the assault weapons ban from the Reagan administration would be admitting a mistake...typical.

Edit: My bad I meant the Brady Bill!

a reply to: neo96

Americans have become scared of their own shadows.

I don't know about you but those are the types of people I DON"T want walking around with guns.

a reply to: DrumsRfun
They aren't. They are the ones SWATTing, or calling the cops thinking people are breaking the law(differenece is the SWATTERS make stuff up like "I seen him load it and point it at little kids". At least the second group just say hey I saw a guy with a gun).

If the ones carrying the guns were the cowards, bullets would be flying everywhere lol.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
Secondly Illinois with its prison-planet style stop and ID laws are laws made by thieving lying politicians to restrict freedom and enforce government dominance - and enforced by militarized thugs with badges.

Sure.

But the point of how the incident was covered is that the driver didn't know the laws in his state. It's one thing, in a situation like that, to be in the right and show how the police are overstepping their mandate. It's another thing to be wrong, and confuse the issues even further.

If he knew the laws in his state, it could have been a much different video, with an important message. Instead, it's crap.

originally posted by: DrumsRfun
a reply to: neo96

Americans have become scared of their own shadows.

I don't know about you but those are the types of people I DON"T want walking around with guns.

That's exactly the thing. I support gun rights, and to me nothing would be uncomfortable about going into a country cafe during hunting season, and seeing the hunters open carrying and having coffee.

But I've seen open carry in places where its just totally inappropriate, businesses right by the police station in peaceful areas, where there's literally no reason to have a gun. It makes the business uncomfortable, because guns are dangerous tools and put you on the alert when they're around. It would be like farmers bringing flamethrowers in, loggers bringing chainsaws in, construction workers setting their jackhammers on the table. Its not that I'm scared of these items where they belong, but it would make me nervous to see someone walking around the McDonalds play area carrying a chainsaw for no reason whatsoever. This kind of stuff pushes gun rights back, it doesn't move them forward.

originally posted by: LDragonFire
a reply to: neo96

I guess mentioning the assault weapons ban from the Reagan administration would be admitting a mistake...typical.

Edit: My bad I meant the Brady Bill!

Yeah well last time I checked it is already ILLEGAL to harm or hurt or murder someone else.

But then again someone needs to explain to me why it is ok to willfully violate my and other gun owners constitutional rights ?


First off there is the second amendment:

Second Amendment A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Key word infringe.

Meaning a line was drawn the rights of the people are clear.

Fourth Amendment The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

The infamous background check is a clear violation.

Fifth Amendment No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself; nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation.

All gun owners are being held accountable for crimes they have never committed.

Sixth Amendment In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed; which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor; and to have the assistance of counsel for his defence.

No gun owner has ever received their day in court.

Not a single one, and their 'crimes' proven in a court of law.

Seventh Amendment In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury shall be otherwise reexamined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of common law.

This for the simple fact guns cost more than 20 bucks, and hell that 200 tax stamp on them is more than $20.

Ninth Amendment The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Heres the kicker.

The enumeration in the constitution of certain rights was CLEARLY laid out.

To deny or Disparage is expressly FORBIDDEN by the Bill of Rights.

Thus making every single gun control law on the books ILLEGAL.

Tenth Amendment The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Gun ownership no matter the type.

No matter that magazine capacity.

No matter how many rounds come out of the squeeze of the trigger is not forbidden by the highest law of the land.

The constitution.

www.aclu.org...

originally posted by: Kangaruex4Ewe

originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

originally posted by: neo96
But it's 'crazy' !
But it's 'lunacy' !
For us to ?

Yes, in the context of the kind of open carry advocacy we outlined in the video.

It's crazy to loiter around a high school with a rifle and bullet-proof vest.

It's lunacy to bring your AR-15 to the airport, just to get coffee.


People doing this risk sparking a public outcry that could end up limiting open-carry rights in the states that still have them.

Yep... And as usual, there is always somebody that ruins it for everybody else. It's been that way since the dawn of time and it will probably still be that way until the end of time.

We are slow learners apparently.

I think the point is ... this is one of those things where no one person, no matter how extreme, can 'ruin it' for everyone else.

Somewhere along the lines TPTB want to put the notion in your head that one extremist CAN ruin it for everyone. Don't fall for it.

Self defense is a natural right. Using the best tools to do that is what the 2d is all about.

Anyone who wants to look into what I'm trying to convey, can find it much better stated in the words of ATS member Galvatron (sprinkled around here and there).

I think the AZ law that was mentioned on the show (the revenge porn bill) is overly broad, but the host tries to claim that Gaga public photos are illegal when the law states that it does not apply to "images involving voluntary exposure in a public or commercial setting."

Honesty and accuracy in reporting are important unless you are just trying to appeal to a like minded audience.

As soon as I read the write up I thought...another program to glorify idiocy. I stand by that.

Never mind

a reply to: neo96

Do we have 1st amendment rights anymore? Do you consider free speech zones constitutional? What political party first used free speech zones? What political movement first imprisoned journalist for not revealing sources? (GWB)

Do we have 4th amendment rights anymore? What political movement first gave us drug testing? (Reagan) What political movement gave us NSA warrentless wiretapping? (Again GWB)

Do we have 5th amendment rights anymore? Wanna guess what right leaning court changed the eminent domain laws? Ever heard of indefinite detention? (GWB, John Roberts Court)

Do we still have 6th amendment rights? Hmm GWB again doesn't think people deserve to have legal council, or to confront there accuser, that would require a trial....

Thank god the right is finally drawing a line in the sand with the second amendment!!! Too bad they supported us losing the other rights all in the name of nationalism or just blindly following a ideology!!!