With the problems this site had yesterday, I felt like I didn't respond accurately to your post, and perhaps did not even understand all of it! I feel
badly about that because it seems you found what I said offensive and I feel it is important that I acknowledge that.
originally posted by: dawnstar
I suppose my husband should have not reached his potential and continued in the job he enjoyed and take a lower paid wage so we could have enjoyed
that financial aid instead??? or maybe he was supposed to kill himself working two jobs??
just so some in our society can continue on with their bias and belief system..
I think I did not understand this, if you would like to clarify or elaborate.
umm what??? why work hard at my job when I find that it's not getting me anywhere??? umm I don't know maybe because I kind of feel that that was
part of the employment contract. you know I do the best possible job I can and the boss agrees to pay me so much.
This is the difference I mean to point at in the way women think, and the way men think-
They assume you will respect your own limits, emotionally, physically, and mentally, and that that doesn't have to be specifically asked of you, nor
carried out by the employer. They don't assume you will work yourself to death like a martyr, and they find nothing "honorable" about doing so!
why work the job I was doing??
You misunderstood my question. I only meant to ask why you were working yourself too hard
, when it was bringing you nothing but suffering.
you keep bringing up social systems as the answer to all the problems.
This is a misunderstanding. I simply pointed out that complaining that people are obligated to work themselves to death in order to have the
essentials for survival, while also expressing repulsion to the idea of the social support and aid, creates cognitive dissonance. "We are forced to
fight to survive by our society, but I'd hate to see my society change"
It is a common american judgment- "I didn't get any help, I suffered and am bittered and scarred by it, so by god, everyone else should too!"
For me the subject is also on topic, because I consider systems of individualism and capitalism to be more "paternalistic" and systems of collectivism
and socialism to be more "maternalistic" - so that extreme repulsion to the second is further evidence of sexism within the individual. Feminists
against collectivism (in any form or amount) are themselves, against femininity.... part of the problem they assume to fight.
it should have the idea that yes women have to work to support families also and therefore should have equal opportunity when it comes to
advancement and pay!
I think they do. I think the women are simply often misunderstanding often how to get that advancement and pay.
And the fact that I had to work 40 hours a week, live on 4 hours of sleep 5 of the 7 days a week, come home to dinners that need to be cooked, kids
that needed help with the homework, house that needed to be kept up, just so my family could have what they need while the single moms all around me
stayed home, had time to enjoy life, could open their windows in the middle of winter to air the place out while I froze in mine because we couldn't
afford the bills... just to be denied help when I needed it to keep working well..
that just makes me sick!!!.........society couldn't contribute a little bit to help me when I need it the most
Here's the dissonance- in green. You are pissed you were not aided, and elsewhere saying you are against such aid.
You didn't get help because there are MILLIONS of Americans who have the same opinion as you- that giving families financial support is BAD.
ya there may be difference between men and women but those differences shouldn't mean that a person has to live in proverty because a women has to
work to support the family.
I agree. I was a single mom in the US, I was raised by a single mom in the US. I lived in someones garage with my baby while I tried to get a college
education, and scraped lost grains of rice out of the corners to feed him.
This is why I hold it dear to my heart to open my eyes and find the problems at their source- and the possible solutions.
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Bluesma because: (no reason given)
edit on 30-8-2014 by Bluesma because: (no reason given)