"Ebola Spins Out Of Control" - Latest News Roundup

I have been sitting on the fence, watching with caution as the Ebola virus scare gains momentum.

Is the virus airborne... This article from Nov/2012
healthmap.org...

Why the US holds a patent on a deadly disease has me stumped, a patent on a vaccine sure.
www.google.com...

To the headline story.

www.zerohedge.com...

Here are the latest news on the worst Ebola epidemic in history.

Below are all clickable links in the main story

Ebola death toll rises to 826 as outbreak spins out of control
Second American with Ebola to return Tuesday
Doctor in Nigeria's largest city of Lagos tests positive for Ebola after treating country's first case
Ebola threatens to erase Liberia’s progress since civil war
U.K. is holding regular meetings on Ebola
WHO sees “extremely small” Ebola risk outside West Africa
U.S. Ebola patient improving amid calls for help in Africa
Ebola test carried out after U.K. air passenger death
Official response hampered by worries in Liberia capital
Ebola crisis alters agenda for African summit in Washington
Guinea villagers keep eating fruit bats


Executive Order -- Revised List of Quarantinable Communicable Diseases

Influenza is excluded from the order.
Excuse me sir you seem to be having respiratory problems, no mate it's the flu.
OK you can go, I don't think it will happen that way.

www.whitehouse.gov...

a reply to: keenasbro

Yes you are right, the partners included in the two so far cures are from UK, Canada and US, one is a serum that already has been used on the two sick Americans with good results or that is what we are told, the other one is now on hold, is no been tested.

But when millions has been awarded by the US government and special interest you know that before money can be made they need a lot more people infected.

a reply to: keenasbro

Although not worried for the west i feel for west africa.

Some of these countrys had started to make real progress and this outbreak is going set them back to square 1 or -1.

True so true.
Ebola risk unheeded as Guinea's villagers keep on eating fruit bats.

www.theguardian.com...

a reply to: crazyewok

It's hard to say it's "spining out of control". I think it's pretty much an isolated disease. No offense but we're talking about third world countries.

Although there have been more deaths reported and will be more deaths in the future many of the people are already infected.

I heard or read it takes between 14 to 21 days before you develop symptoms. (not sure if that's accurate.)

Don't get me wrong I feel for the people but I really doubt this will become a global problem...a pandemic.

Yes I agree, I don't think it will be a global problem.
www.bloomberg.com...

On the other hand, third world countries have the potential for the disease to spin out of control. imo

This article being part of the reason.
www.theguardian.com...

Medical teams struggling to curb Ebola in west Africa have been discouraging bush meat consumption, believed to have caused the outbreak, but some rural communities dependent on the meat for protein are determined to continue their traditional hunting practices.

While meat from wild animals such as fruit bats, rodents and forest antelopes has largely disappeared from market stalls in main towns such as Guéckédou in southern Guinea – the epicentre of the disease, and the capital Conakry following campaigns to avoid contamination, it is still being eaten in remote villages despite the risks.


a reply to: minusinfinity

a reply to: keenasbro

You're right and I've heard reports of health care workers being attacked simply because the people, (native residents), don't understand they are there to help.

It's an unfortunate situation.

I'm just saying there is a level of fear porn going on with some of the stories.

Again I agree with the fear porn side, but when we read stories like this, can fear be justified.
theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com...

“This is like trying to change a tire in a hurricane,”
"maybe this strain is a little different"

August 2014 – AFRICA - West Africa is grappling with one of the world’s most fearsome and elusive adversaries: the Ebola virus. So far, the World Health Organization tallies more than 700 dead, mostly in Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea. That includes dozens of local health workers and the top Ebola doctors in Sierra Leone and Liberia. WHO chief Margaret Chan said Friday that the epidemic is out of control. Ebola, transmitted by contact with an infected person’s blood or other fluids, makes those eight excruciating days of high fever, diarrhea and often profuse bleeding from body orifices and even the skin’s pores. “The virus attacks the body’s soft tissues — a process some doctors describe, bluntly, as like watching a patient ‘dissolve,” Tribune correspondent Paul Salopek reported during a 2000 outbreak. There is no cure. No effective treatment. No vaccine. The rest of the world, a plane ride or two away, shudders. As with previous outbreaks, the virus shows no mercy. Ebola kills up to 90 percent of its victims with astonishing swiftness. The average time from start of symptoms to death is just eight days.

“What’s going on is unprecedented,” Thomas Hope, a virologist at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine, tells us. “Usually these things last two or three weeks and then get isolated.” Not this time. And, Hope says, usually the virus grows less lethal as it passes from person to person, so people get less and less sick from it. Not this time. “That is more than a little unnerving to me as a virologist because it suggests that maybe this strain is a little different or has adapted in a different way to cause disease in humans.” Infectious disease expert Dr. Michael Osterholm of the University of Minnesota tells us that this strain of Ebola isn’t likely to be much different than others, but that international public health and local government officials “were slow to understand how fast the virus was spreading.” That’s why doctors and other health professionals are struggling to contain the disease. “This is like trying to change a tire in a hurricane,” he says.


a reply to: minusinfinity

a reply to: keenasbro

I just don't see it as a huge threat outside of Africa.

Ebola is horrible but easily contained in a modern city / country. This hype is ridiculous.

I hope they get it under control but I fail to see a serious threat.

This is actually a thread from the beginning: www.abovetopsecret.com...

And then this one might be the longest I've seen with a great deal and variety of information: www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: ~Lucidity

I think there can be more than one thread on a topic.

If not I could post a thread titled " The American Government is Evil" and it would cover most thread topics.

a reply to: marg6043

…the two so far cures…

…are not "cures" but are showing signs of improvement. Time will tell…


keepingitreal,

intrptr

a reply to: minusinfinity

As it currently stands, it is a serious threat, given the virulence of the virus should it get a foothold in larger denser, more populations. While I would agree that that it is UNLIKELY to reach pandemic proportions now that the WHO and the western authorities have mobilise. Its a but like someone pointing a loaded gun at your head. You're safe unless they decide to pull the trigger. But until the loaded gun is removed from your head, you can be forgiven if you are a little nervous.

Another thing to consider is that we are coming to end of the summer holidays here in western Europe, kids will be back in school in a matter of weeks and any parent of young kids will tell you that there's no better germ factory than a classroom full of snotty nosed kids, sneezing all over the place. The flu season and the winter vomiting bug season are right around the corner and should ebola spread alongside hardier viruses the chance of further mutation would be increased. So we really need to get this under control now, otherwise we're taking a big risk that something nastier is on its way.

Previous outbreaks of the ebola virus were 'hotter' in that they had a higher lethality and apparently a faster incubation rate than the current outbreak, previously the default behaviour was to allow the virus to kill itself off naturally within the population. That hasn't worked this time and we can't afford to take any further risks.

Oh yeah, it's fear porn now until it spins out of control and affects first world nations....

Then it will be..."why didn't someone warn us"

Call it fear porn if you want but Europe is making preparations for a huge epidemic and they are scared ****less.

originally posted by: redshoes
a reply to: minusinfinity

As it currently stands, it is a serious threat, given the virulence of the virus should it get a foothold in larger denser, more populations. While I would agree that that it is UNLIKELY to reach pandemic proportions now that the WHO and the western authorities have mobilise. Its a but like someone pointing a loaded gun at your head. You're safe unless they decide to pull the trigger. But until the loaded gun is removed from your head, you can be forgiven if you are a little nervous.

Another thing to consider is that we are coming to end of the summer holidays here in western Europe, kids will be back in school in a matter of weeks and any parent of young kids will tell you that there's no better germ factory than a classroom full of snotty nosed kids, sneezing all over the place. The flu season and the winter vomiting bug season are right around the corner and should ebola spread alongside hardier viruses the chance of further mutation would be increased. So we really need to get this under control now, otherwise we're taking a big risk that something nastier is on its way.

Previous outbreaks of the ebola virus were 'hotter' in that they had a higher lethality and apparently a faster incubation rate than the current outbreak, previously the default behaviour was to allow the virus to kill itself off naturally within the population. That hasn't worked this time and we can't afford to take any further risks.

If people were to research rather than panic they would know......


A. Ebola is not airborne.
B. Most people who become infectious display severe symptoms.
C. Relax your chances are like .00005% of contracting Ebola.

(rolling my eyes.)

originally posted by: minusinfinity
a reply to: ~Lucidity

I think there can be more than one thread on a topic.

If not I could post a thread titled " The American Government is Evil" and it would cover most thread topics.

I was just trying to tell you there was already a "round up" thread. And another large thread with more information.

And you are right. There are certainly enough threads on this topic. Some find that for research and continuity it helps to have everything in one place, as you seem to believe by having started a "round up" thread. But they already exist, so you are just fracturing the continuity.

Just my two sense. Enjoy your thread.

That is a very good point minusinfinity. I've heard reports of health care workers being attacked.

This being the case and the fact Doctors deem some villages are too unsafe to travel to because the virus may be present there, puts the residents in mortal danger surely, as is the danger of the virus spreading further.

I guess quarantine is their best answer.

Because of the widespread fears of Ebola and medical treatment, providing education about the disease will be critical to bringing this outbreak under control.

Mistrust of doctors and concerns about stigmatization may mean that the real danger is an “epidemic of fear,” as Tony Barnett, a professor at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, put it. Hostile mobs have confronted healthcare workers and physical barriers have blocked them from entering villages. Doctors Without Borders has classified twelve villages in Guinea as “red,” meaning that they may contain Ebola but are too unsafe to travel to. Local residents fear the emergency treatment center set up in Gueckedou because when patients enter, “they don’t leave alive.” - See more at:

healthmap.org...



a reply to: minusinfinity

originally posted by: keenasbro
That is a very good point minusinfinity. I've heard reports of health care workers being attacked.

This being the case and the fact Doctors deem some villages are too unsafe to travel to because the virus may be present there, puts the residents in mortal danger surely, as is the danger of the virus spreading further.

I guess quarantine is their best answer.

Because of the widespread fears of Ebola and medical treatment, providing education about the disease will be critical to bringing this outbreak under control.

Mistrust of doctors and concerns about stigmatization may mean that the real danger is an “epidemic of fear,” as Tony Barnett, a professor at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, put it. Hostile mobs have confronted healthcare workers and physical barriers have blocked them from entering villages. Doctors Without Borders has classified twelve villages in Guinea as “red,” meaning that they may contain Ebola but are too unsafe to travel to. Local residents fear the emergency treatment center set up in Gueckedou because when patients enter, “they don’t leave alive.” - See more at:

healthmap.org...



a reply to: minusinfinity

Hey if Africans continue to live like it's the 900's they can suffer their own plight.

Hmm! Apathy comes to mind.

a reply to: GreenMtnBoys

originally posted by: GreenMtnBoys

originally posted by: keenasbro
That is a very good point minusinfinity. I've heard reports of health care workers being attacked.

This being the case and the fact Doctors deem some villages are too unsafe to travel to because the virus may be present there, puts the residents in mortal danger surely, as is the danger of the virus spreading further.

I guess quarantine is their best answer.

Because of the widespread fears of Ebola and medical treatment, providing education about the disease will be critical to bringing this outbreak under control.

Mistrust of doctors and concerns about stigmatization may mean that the real danger is an “epidemic of fear,” as Tony Barnett, a professor at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, put it. Hostile mobs have confronted healthcare workers and physical barriers have blocked them from entering villages. Doctors Without Borders has classified twelve villages in Guinea as “red,” meaning that they may contain Ebola but are too unsafe to travel to. Local residents fear the emergency treatment center set up in Gueckedou because when patients enter, “they don’t leave alive.” - See more at:

healthmap.org...



a reply to: minusinfinity

Hey if Africans continue to live like it's the 900's they can suffer their own plight.

Africa isn't an isolated continent of just primitive villages. What happens in Africa affects the whole world.
You have no idea how ignorant your statement sounds.