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Israel admits HAMAS didn't kidnap the 3 Israeli teens after all

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posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 02:37 AM
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When the bodies of three Israeli teenagers, kidnapped in the West Bank, were found late last month, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu did not mince words. "Hamas is responsible, and Hamas will pay," he said, initiating a campaign that eventually escalated into the present conflict in the region.

But now, officials admit the kidnappings were not Hamas's handiwork after all.

Repeated inconsistencies in Israeli descriptions of the situation have sparked debate over whether Israel wanted to provoke Hamas into a confrontation. Israeli intelligence is also said to have known that the boys were dead shortly after they disappeared, but to have maintained public optimism about their safe return to beef up support from the Jewish diaspora.

Israel admits HAMAS didn't kidnap the 3 Israeli teens after all

Shades of Gulf of Tonkin?

It Turns Out Hamas Didn’t Kidnap and Kill the 3 Israeli Teens After All

Israel was forced to admit that it knew the three Israeli teens were not kidnapped by Hamas and that they were dead, even as it carried on in the media with the hopes they were alive - all to provoke and justify an extensive invasion of Gaza...?


All the illegal and immoral actions related to Operation Brother’s Keeper were justified under the premise of finding and saving the missing teens whom the Israeli government knew to be dead — cynically exploiting the tragedy to whip up public outcry in order to provoke and then confront Hamas. This pattern of deception continues under the ongoing military offensive in Gaza. For example, last week in collaboration with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah El Sisi and Abbas, in its efforts to alienate Hamas, Israel announced a bad-faith cease-fire proposal, which Hamas was not consulted on and never agreed to but whose violation supposedly justified Israel’s expansion and intensification of the military campaign into Gaza.


Credit to Buzzfeed writer Sheera Frenkel for exposing this. What do you say, ATS?



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posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 02:40 AM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

It was always a false flag by the Zionists.


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posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 02:49 AM
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It seems the United States allies have been emboldened by the USGov's recent success with false flags. Ukraine, Israel, you name it. They are all playing out of the same playbook now.


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posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 03:00 AM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

I'm not surprised albeit disgusted at the depth to which they will go.

The Palestinian boy killed in a revenge attack, as a direct result of this falsehood, sickens me even more.

Kind Regards
Myselfaswell
edit on 26-7-2014 by myselfaswell because: grammar


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posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 03:03 AM
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No surprises here.

Israel never provided any evidence in support of their claims, and went on to use the allegations in order to punish the Palestinian population. Indeed, there were some alarming inconsistencies with the story:

1 - Hamas is primarily located in Gaza, not the West Bank. Even though they probably do have operatives in the West Bank, the kidnapping of Israeli teenagers is foolish and would do nothing but damage their goals.

2 - The kidnappers were proven to speak Hebrew, instead of Arabic. This was evident in am emergency call made by a victim to Israeli authorities.

Ultimately, the allegations were refuted by Hamas, but were used by Israel to bolster tensions. What do we have now? War. The murder of 3 Israeli teenagers ultimately led to the assaults on Gaza and the killings of nearly 900 Palestinians.

One would be hard pressed not to believe that this was a set up from the beginning...


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posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 03:08 AM
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originally posted by: daaskapital
The murder of 3 Israeli teenagers ultimately led to the assaults on Gaza and the killings of nearly 900 Palestinians.


Of course you ignore the thousands of rockets fired at Israel by Hamas terrorists from Gaza over the years....


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posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 03:09 AM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

Elections are coming up, if you look at the history of the past 10-20 years Gaza conflicts, it always comes a few months before the elections.

Just one way for Satanyahu to keep the public scared, feeling secured so people will re-elect him, while being distracted by the other big issues in Israel (real estate bubble, beyond reach living expenses).
edit on 26-7-2014 by Shuye because: (no reason given)


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posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 03:10 AM
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Knew . And said from the start .. as usual was ignored .. ahh well ..

Israel will continue to create excuses to go in and commit mass murder and crimes against humanity .. not a damn thing will change ..

Time for another drink and moment of silence for the victims of israels crimes ..


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posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 03:10 AM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

HAMAS didn't kidnap the 3 teenagers, but they are responsible for it. As HAMAS represents the major factor of so called palestinians.

Palestine is not a nation, although Arafat fought well to make it a nation. It's just a bunch of mixture of middle eastern folk, who in reality are Jordanian, Lybians, etc. But living in a territory that the British called "Palestine" as it was a territory that didn't have any governmental control and didn't fit in with the rest.

HAMAS is still an organisation, that is set on destroying Israel and is not on a path that leads to a peacful coalition with Israel. It's also an organisation that outright voices words of war, and is in a de-facto war with Israel, as are all the people of the middle-east, except the Arabs themselves (if I recall correctly).

That Isreal doesn't just "kick" them out, is in reality a humanitarian effort on their part. The US is fighting a war on something they call terror, and murdering millions of people, because they "think" somebody wants them dead. The Jews "know" HAMAS wants them dead ... it's not something that is to be put in question, so in reality they should just "kick" them out of their territory. One by one. But they aren't, so the Palestinians have every opportunity to make peace with Israel. If they can't do that, than Israel is correct in making a wall around it, and showing the Palestinians to the outside of that wall.

And that, is my not so humble opinion on the matter.
edit on 26/7/2014 by bjarneorn because: (no reason given)


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posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 03:16 AM
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originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: daaskapital
The murder of 3 Israeli teenagers ultimately led to the assaults on Gaza and the killings of nearly 900 Palestinians.


Of course you ignore the thousands of rockets fired at Israel by Hamas terrorists from Gaza over the years....


The Palestinians have a right to determination. As set out by UN General Assembly A/RES/2649


Emphasizing the importance of the universal realization of the right of peoples to self-determination and of the speedy granting of independence to colonial countries and peoples for the effective guarantee and observance of human rights,


Concerned that many peoples are still denied the right to self-determination and are still subject to colonial and alien domination



1. Affirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples under colonial and alien domination recognized as being entitled to the right of self-determination to restore to themselves that right by any means at their disposal;

2. Recognizes the right of peoples under colonial and alien domination in the legitimate exercise of their right to self-determination to seek and receive all kinds of moral and material assistance, in accordance with the resolutions of the United Nations and the spirit of the Charter of the United Nations;

3. Calls upon all Governments that deny the right to self-determination of peoples under colonial and alien domination to recognize and observe that right in accordance with the relevant international instruments and the principles and spirit of the Charter;

4. Considers that the acquisition and retention of territory in contravention of the right of the people of that territory to self-determination is inadmissible and a gross violation of the Charter;

5. Condemns those Governments that deny the right to self-determination of peoples recognized as being entitled to it, especially of the peoples of southern Africa and Palestine


unispal.un.org...

Even though the the firing of rockets by Hamas is deplorable, i maintain that the kidnappings of which i referenced, were the ultimate harbinger of the current war in Gaza.


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posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 03:18 AM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

Not Hamas .. still Palestinian terrorists. Since there was an actual kidnapping, and it was done by actual Palestinians, not a false flag.
ETA: I read the article .. I do not see Israel admitting this. Can you show me the quote?
edit on 26-7-2014 by OccamsRazor04 because: (no reason given)


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posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 03:20 AM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

There is absolutely nothing in either source to support the claims being made.


Non-plagiarizing BuzzFeed writer Sheera Frenkel was among the first to suggest that it was unlikely that Hamas was behind the deaths of Gilad Shaar, Naftali Frenkel, and Eyal Yifrach. Citing Palestinian sources and experts the field, Frenkel reported that kidnapping three Israeli teens would be a foolish move for Hamas. International experts told her it was likely the work of a local group, acting without concern for the repercussions:


Anonymous sources, Palestinian sources, field experts, international experts.

Even the last sentence undermines your argument.

At no point in either article does it prove Israel made this comment.


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posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 03:23 AM
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They steal the Palestinians land and then act like the usual cunning manipulative jew with money, I don't know what's worse the spread of ebola or the spread of these snake Zionists, at least ebola hasn't stolen our banks, media, and governments.

This plague needs a cure A.S.A.P, but at this rate I'm not holding my breath as it seems only Jesus returning to earth would be a cure for zionism


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posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 03:28 AM
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originally posted by: lightedhype
It seems the United States allies have been emboldened by the USGov's recent success with false flags. Ukraine, Israel, you name it. They are all playing out of the same playbook now.

You make it sound like Israel wasn't involved in the mother of false flags but only learned from it:

You also make it sound like Ukraine is involved with the false flag that is MH17, while the new Ukrainian government was itself spawned by the USG. The real Ukraine is already history:

soulwaxer


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posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 03:31 AM
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originally posted by: bjarneorn
a reply to: Blackmarketeer

HAMAS didn't kidnap the 3 teenagers, but they are responsible for it. As HAMAS represents the major factor of so called palestinians.


No. Hamas is an organisation mostly based in Gaza. That said, Palestine has a governing body made up of a unified government between Hamas and Fatah.


Palestine is not a nation, although Arafat fought well to make it a nation. It's just a bunch of mixture of middle eastern folk, who in reality are Jordanian, Lybians, etc. But living in a territory that the British called "Palestine" as it was a territory that didn't have any governmental control and didn't fit in with the rest.


Any proof for your allegations? The majority of Palestinian families currently living in Palestine, have a common ancestry spanning back generations. I would say they most definitely are a nation:


nation:

A large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular state or territory.


www.oxforddictionaries.com...

Now as to whether or not Palestine is a sovereign state, i would also argue yes. See here for my breakdown:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


HAMAS is still an organisation, that is set on destroying Israel and is not on a path that leads to a peacful coalition with Israel. It's also an organisation that outright voices words of war, and is in a de-facto war with Israel, as are all the people of the middle-east, except the Arabs themselves (if I recall correctly).


Yes, their charter espouses the destruction of Israel, but they have formed a unity government with Fatah, of which many states such as the USA were (are) working with. While Hamas should alter its goals, the fact is, it's not happening when there are constant wars, such as the one we are currently seeing.


That Isreal doesn't just "kick" them out, is in reality a humanitarian effort on their part. The US is fighting a war on something they call terror, and murdering millions of people, because they "think" somebody wants them dead. The Jews "know" HAMAS wants them dead ... it's not something that is to be put in question, so in reality they should just "kick" them out of their territory. One by one. But they aren't, so the Palestinians have every opportunity to make peace with Israel. If they can't do that, than Israel is correct in making a wall around it, and showing the Palestinians to the outside of that wall.

And that, is my not so humble opinion on the matter.


What? There is nothing humanitarian about creating illegal settlements and suppressing the rights of the Palestinian people.

Hamas is just a minority of fighters opposed to the occupation of Israel, and the establishment of it as a state. You can't punish all Palestinians for the actions of terrorists. If you do, then you will only create more of them. There should be increased diplomatic actions between Israel and Palestine, not war. Israel refused to work with a Palestinian unified government, and what do we have a month later? War, and statements that its harbinger was not what it originally seemed.
edit on 26-7-2014 by daaskapital because: quoting problems


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posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 03:31 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Perhaps not in the OP sources;

But there most certainly is here.



On Friday, Chief Inspector Micky Rosenfeld, foreign press spokesman for the Israel Police, reportedly told BBC journalist Jon Donnisonhe that the men responsible for murders were not acting on orders of Hamas leadership


Kind Regards
Myselfaswell


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posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 03:31 AM
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Said it was a set up all along.

Not such a way out conspiracy theory after all eh.

How is it that Obama can claim Russia downed a passenger jet aircraft, within seemingly moments of the plane having crashed, yet the magnificent and clairvoyant US intelligence agencies who supposedly determined Russia's guilt, don't seem to know anything about Israeli false flags involving the murder of 3 Israeli teen boys as a means to garner public opinion and support for yet another round of wholesale slaughtering of people in Gaza?

'It Stinks' doesn't remotely cover it, it's positively putrid.



posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 03:35 AM
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originally posted by: daaskapital


The Palestinians have a right to determination. As set out by UN General Assembly A/RES/2649



There is both a YES and NO answer to that. It's far more complicated, than you think it is. Which is why the UN resolution has never been effective.

Arafat, in his old age ... realized this and went on to make peace with Israel. Something the middle east didn't like, so Arafat was no more. Here comes HAMAS.

The Palestinians are governed by an organisation, whose main purpose is not peace but the destruction of it's so called enemies. This is not a rule by law, but a rule of discrimination, which disqualifies HAMAS a governmental entity. And therefore, Palestine is without a government, and without a functional government, it is not a nation ... and not a people, and does not fall under the given category you quote.

These are the hard facts ... so while Palestine is ruled by the quoran and HAMAS, Palestine does not and will not acknowledge the rights of other people. So, for Palestine to exist, it MUST make peace with Israel. And according to this peace, it must be ruled by law, which means that if there are perpertrators it will pursue and punish those accordingly. Not look the other way, like the dovager Queen of China did, because they're some favorite boxers who are killing the ugly foreigners.

While Palestine acts in this manner, it has no rights.
edit on 26/7/2014 by bjarneorn because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 03:39 AM
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I can hear it now reverberating across the western world


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posted on Jul, 26 2014 @ 03:56 AM
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originally posted by: bjarneorn

originally posted by: daaskapital


The Palestinians have a right to determination. As set out by UN General Assembly A/RES/2649



There is both a YES and NO answer to that. It's far more complicated, than you think it is. Which is why the UN resolution has never been effective.


The resolutions may not have worked, but the Palestinians do have a right to self determination. There are no ifs or buts about it.


Arafat, in his old age ... realized this and went on to make peace with Israel. Something the middle east didn't like, so Arafat was no more. Here comes HAMAS.


Hamas was active during Arafat's lifetime.


The Palestinians are governed by an organisation, whose main purpose is not peace but the destruction of it's so called enemies.


You are incorrect.

The official representative of the Palestinian state is the PLO. The PLO seeks peace with Israel, who recognises it as the legitimate representative of Palestine. Here's a quick link. I'm sure you can do further research:


It is recognized as the "sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people" by over 100 states with which it holds diplomatic relations, and has enjoyed observer status at the United Nations since 1974....In 1993, the PLO recognized Israel's right to exist in peace, accepted UN Security Council resolutions 242 and 338, and rejected "violence and terrorism"; in response, Israel officially recognized the PLO as the representative of the Palestinian people.


en.wikipedia.org...

Abbas is the leader of the PLO, and the leader of Fatah. He seeks diplomacy between Israel and Palestine, and was instrumental in forming the unified government, which currently governs the state of Palestine.

In fact:

The unified government governs, and represents, Palestine. For the states of which refuse this unified government, still recognise the PLO as the representative of Palestine.


This is not a rule by law, but a rule of discrimination, which disqualifies HAMAS a governmental entity. And therefore, Palestine is without a government, and without a functional government, it is not a nation ... and not a people, and does not fall under the given category you quote.


Says your biased perspective. The PLO, as led by Abbas, is recognised as the representative of Palestine. Abbas formed a unified government between Fatah and Hamas. Currently, there are no Hamas ministers in this unified government. The very fact that international partners are willing to work with the Palestinian government, prove that it is a legitimate representative of the people of Palestine. You are not to say what can and cannot be a government.


These are the hard facts


No, these are your opinions.


... so while Palestine is ruled by the quoran and HAMAS, Palestine does not and will not acknowledge the rights of other people. So, for Palestine to exist, it MUST make peace with Israel. And according to this peace, it must be ruled by law, which means that if there are perpertrators it will pursue and punish those accordingly. Not look the other way, like the dovager Queen of China did, because they're some favorite boxers who are killing the ugly foreigners.


Palestine is ruled by a unified government, which is led by Abbas of Fatah and the PLO. The PLO, being the legitimate representative of Palestine, has recognised Israel's right to statehood. Abbas has also pursued peace and coordination with Israel.

So yes, the current representatives of Israel, have sought peace with the Jewish state.


While Palestine acts in this manner, it has no rights.


It has every right to seek statehood.
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