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originally posted by: Vovin
originally posted by: SkepticOverlord
originally posted by: sheepslayer247
Actually, RT is a pretty good news source.
It's true that they are focusing on the Ukraine being at fault, but it doesn't mean it's pro-Putin propaganda.
Russia Today is a Putin-directed propaganda machine, started and run by two Putin cronies; Mikhail Lesin and Aleksei Gromov. I though all ATS members were aware of that?
So which shady government official runs ATS?
Pretty interesting how the owner of ATS finds it necessary to jump in and criticize RT. Kinda explains a lot of the staff bias lately.
Well then the media lied again as I saw two different reports that said the RS were the only group that could possibly have these weapons. So everyone is pushing some type of agenda.
originally posted by: Ploutonas
a reply to: Bilk22
Ukraine does have ground equipment for it, here is the proof - if you are sensitive, avoid to watch the videos, they show it all.
but the links I gave you previously, is newer that the one on this message, but its a proof, that Kiev does have guns for it and knew about it since yesterday and they send special equipment and forces for that purpose!.
originally posted by: PurpleDog UK
The question is …….
So yes, you're right about about 1/20,000 happens anywhere in the world
originally posted by: Ploutonas
At 15:44 the Boeing 777 pass from the ukraine and ukraine airfighters shoot it down. Putins presidential aircraft pass from the same spot at 16:21 - 30 minutes later!!! Putin aircraft have totally the same looks, colors and size, as the Boeing 777.
That is a clearly assassination attempt by Kiev and its allies.
here is the news... You can translate them.
the link bellow is a testimony of a Spanish airport (flight coordinator), that Kiev airfigters attacked the Boeing 777
At the same time, there have been reports contradicting Intefax’s report that was the first and the only media source to publish the news, saying that Presidential plane was not flying over Ukraine at the same time.
As a source told Gazeta.ru online news portal, Putin’s plane does take off from Vnukovo-3 [the terminal that accepts business jets], but the president does not fly over the conflict-gripped neighboring country.
“Putin has only one jet – Board One, he does not fly other planes. This plane always takes off from Vnukovo-3, but the presidential plane have not been flying over Ukraine for a while,” the source at Vnukovo-3 terminal said.
President Putin was on his way from Brazil, where he attended the BRICS summit, to Moscow.
Flight MH17 crashed in Ukraine on a flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, and was carrying 295 people.
The passenger Boeing-777 was expected to enter Russian airspace at 5:20pm local time, but never did, a Russian aviation industry source was cited by Reuters.
originally posted by: Lady_Tuatha
very tragic event, my heart goes out to the families of all those lost.
Strange fact on the plane - The Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 known as MH17 had its maiden flight on 17/07/97 and was shot down 17/07/14, exactly 17 years later.