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originally posted by: Arbitrageur
I've already said I'm not going to entertain your dictionary abuse regarding how space is defined. Vacuum energy is not well understood, but I know I've explained what we know to you at least several times; the expansion of the universe is accelerating and vacuum energy is our guess for the reason. If you didn't get it the first five times there's no point in re-hashing it again.
You certainly are arguing personal, and in my opinion, poorly founded personal opinions. You create a bunch of little "boxes" and then try to force things into those boxes, and when they don't fit, you say something is wrong. Yes something is wrong with the way you've constructed your boxes.
originally posted by: ImaFungi
I am not arguing with you from my opinions or emotions.
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
Galaxies are objects or at least collections of objects. When the distance between two galaxies increases by 10%, we say the space between them has increased.
When you draw zero point energy from the time domain, it comes in the form of electrons, its measurable as current but the voltage is at right angles to the voltage in our 3 spatial dimensions. the time domain has is own 3 spatial dimensions and these 3 intersect our 3 at right angles. So our reality is really 6 dimensional space
originally posted by: ImaFungi
a reply to: Nochzwei
Dark matter being electrons, in the time domain?
Why do you think its dark matter? What is the reasoning.
originally posted by: ImaFungi
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
Galaxies are objects or at least collections of objects. When the distance between two galaxies increases by 10%, we say the space between them has increased.
Answer this question then.
Does the word; Space; mean; only nothing. The word; Space.
Does; Space = only nothing.
If yes.
Space = Cannot expand.
If no.
Space = What is *it* that is expanding?
You don't get high marks for either reading comprehension, memory, or both. But I'll hold your hand for one post and repeat the dictionary definition.
originally posted by: ImaFungi
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
Galaxies are objects or at least collections of objects. When the distance between two galaxies increases by 10%, we say the space between them has increased.
Answer this question then.
Does the word; Space; mean; only nothing. The word; Space.
Does; Space = only nothing.
If yes.
Space = Cannot expand.
If no.
Space = What is *it* that is expanding?
originally posted by: ImaFungi
Dimensions are not a quality of space.
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
www.merriam-webster.com...
Space: a limited extent in one, two, or three dimensions : distance, area, volume
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: ImaFungi
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
Galaxies are objects or at least collections of objects. When the distance between two galaxies increases by 10%, we say the space between them has increased.
Answer this question then.
Does the word; Space; mean; only nothing. The word; Space.
Does; Space = only nothing.
If yes.
Space = Cannot expand.
If no.
Space = What is *it* that is expanding?
Are you referring to space-time or space?
Space is at its most basic the distance between two points. Your arguments were first introduced by Aristotle on his lectures on nature. He defined space very similar to you. Later isaac Newton refined it saying space was absolute—in the sense that it existed permanently and independently of whether there was any matter in the space.
Now along came Einstein in general theory of relativity...space...has no separate existence" and "there is no such thing as empty space, i., e., a space without field. Space-time does not claim existence on its own, but only as a structural quality of the field. In other words it is a set of locations a field exists. What we see as expansion of the fields is the expansion of space.
So which space are we talking about and in what context. Philosophical arguments are useless eh arm discussing space. Because we can only use space relative to something else.
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
Here's an example. Take an empty room, 3m by 3m by 3m, so it has a total volume of 27 cubic meters.
Now knock out one wall, and modify the room so it's 3m by 4m by 3m. Now the volume is 36 cubic meters.
The room went from having 27 cubic meters of space to 36 cubic meters of space.
originally posted by: ImaFungi
a reply to: Arbitrageur
Why cant you answer this question, yes or no.
Does the word SPACE = ONLY NOTHING.
Yes or no?
originally posted by: ImaFungi
a reply to: dragonridr
There are many different types of space in human terms. I am attempting to speak about reality.
I think in reality, distance exists.
I think in reality, area of nothing exists.
Do you agree?
I thought the word space, could be used to equal, area of nothing.
If there is area of nothing, beyond the universe (or multiverse), what would be a good word to call that area of nothing?
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
The room went from having 27 cubic meters of space to 36 cubic meters of space.
It can be empty, but it doesn't have to be. It can be completely filled with air, and you can even put furniture in it, then it's not empty space but it's still space.
If you can't read and comprehend what I've written and what the dictionary says, I don't see the point in continuing. Air is not nothing, but I expected you would already know that. If space was nothing, it wouldn't be able to contain the 36 cubic meters of air, or the furniture.
originally posted by: ImaFungi
a reply to: Arbitrageur
Why cant you answer this question, yes or no.
Does the word SPACE = ONLY NOTHING.
Yes or no?
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
If you can't read and comprehend what I've written and what the dictionary says, I don't see the point in continuing. Air is not nothing, but I expected you would already know that.
If space was nothing, it wouldn't be able to contain the 36 cubic meters of air, or the furniture.
And when there's more space between galaxies, the two galaxies are somewhat like the walls. The space is what's between the walls or the galaxies.
originally posted by: ImaFungi
In your example, the only thing that really changes is the walls (walls are matter).