The Last Ten Years of Global Warming Never happened

a reply to: MarlinGrace

Yeah and when they haven't even take basic steps to environmental issues yet they want large brush strokes of bull# is where red flags should be raised.

Like extra taxes on CO2 emitting cars yet the government keeps starting wars...

Or the fact they haven't even improved public transportation or infrastructure which would help people use alternatives to cars. Modes like bicycles and buses(most people can't spend 2 hours on a bus to get to a job that's 20 minutes away in a car).

That sort of thing.

Do the basics first before you start in with all the bull# if you're that worried about the environment.

Oh yeah and where are all the diesel cars anyway?

Funny how they just found a lithium vein in Afghanistan and now everyone needs to get electric cars with lithium powered batteries.

Roll my eyes and hit me with a brick.

Edit:

Second half of post disappeared.

What I was going to say is that when your funding for research is dependent on agencies and government grants you are less likely to rock the boat. So much research is tied to interests that one really needs to scrutinize things very carefully and hold them with a grain of salt at times. Especially depending on the subject matter and what political nonsense it's involved in at the time.

The first question that should always be asked in regard to any type of research is if there is any conflict of interest that exists. If yes, then beware.

That is all.

originally posted by: OrphanApology
a reply to: nixie_nox

That's just an author's opinion on the use of the term "rape" in regard to mating habits of animal species. Also your anecdotal evidence of a friend who works with dolphins does not equal research in regard to whether dolphins have violent sexual behaviors.

Then you didn't read the whole article. And my anecdotal evidence includes people who are biologists, behaviorists, and experts in dolphins who study them both in capture and their natural habitat.

Have you studies dolphins for months at a time in their habitat? I don't think so. Nice try though.

Also, if a dolphin forces his mating habits on me, I am calling it rape because that is what it is to me.

You conveniently ignored the information that there is ZERO documented evidence of rape of any kind by scientists.

The second article is not junk and if you want to read up more on the professor who co authored the research his name is Richard Connor and is a professor at the UMass Dartmouth.

And his researched never mentioned rape. Only the headlines of newspapers making sensationalist titles.

We put out a paper that said “dolphin male alliances are not as simple as other species”, but it has stirred up quite a lot of interest, because somewhere in it, the paper mentioned “bisexual philopatry”, which when translated out of jargon means “males stay near where they were born, AND females stay near where they were born” – nothing more or less than that.

‘Quite a lot of interest’ is one way to put it. ‘Idiots crawling out of the woodwork’ is another. Here’s the headlines of four stories that were written about this paper:


Dolphins ‘resort to rape’: Dolphins appear to have a darker side, according to scientists who suggest they can resort to ‘rape’ to assert authority. [The Telegraph]

Male dolphins are bisexual, US scientists claim. [news.com.au]. (Note that this is an Australian website, and Bill is Australian).

Male bottlenose dolphins engage in extensive bisexuality. [zeenews.com]

when science journalism blows

Since you have zero research skills and just call stuff "junk" without providing any reasons WHY that is...here is a link for your viewing pleasure.

Since I just showed that your own Richard Conner's research was completely misconstrued by the lame stream media, I feel quite comfortable wiht my research and interpretive skills, thank you.

All the publications to fulfill anyone's desire to understand dolphin aggression. It requires reading though...so....

And I highly doubt you read them.

This will be my last response to you.

Losign sucks, doesn't it?

a reply to: neo96

I know YOU WILL NEVER provide proof of any kind. Just totally off the wall responses that are so dramatic and sensationalist that only the most absurd will actually believe it.

Don't you have to stand on a corner of a street with a sign or something?

Prius repellent

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Wisconsin coal rollers COAL TRAIN!!! 11/17/13

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a reply to: MarlinGrace

What scientists are being funded by what agencies?

"Its da man comin to get us" is a lazy skeptical response.

If you don't have the projects, the scientists, or the agencies you are accusing, than no, you don't know what you are talking about.

a reply to: nixie_nox

I know YOU WILL NEVER provide proof of any kind. Just totally off the wall responses that are so dramatic and sensationalist that only the most absurd will actually believe it.

Funny that is what I think of the global warming crowd.

OH god,Oh God were all gonna die if we don't let the US government take more power, and control to 'save the planet'.

Power they already have for anyone paying attention.

a reply to: OrphanApology

I would love to know what these agencies and grants are. Please tell.

a reply to: neo96

Two years and I have yet to see you provide proof of anything yet. Just smoke screens to show that you enjoy being dramatic without any of the teeth.

originally posted by: pl3bscheese

originally posted by: MarlinGrace

Not confused at all the government funds scientist, and has proposed a huge tax plan to fight Global Warming/Climate Change.

Definitely confused. Not all scientists are funded by governMENTS, plural emphasis.

We make up a small fraction of the world population but are the ones asked to make the sacrifices, based on government funded climate change. Would there still be research if the government didn't fund it?

This lie keeps being propagated, I wonder why this is? It seems you're a bit centered on the US, but in reality, the developed countries around the world have various policies and groups working within the context of the climate catastrophe which is unfolding. Definitely not about the US, although seeing as we disproportionately use more energy than any other country, and like to be thought of as exceptional leaders, we should perhaps do just that on this one.

You're using disinformation my friend, china uses more than the US. Source from our governments own site. I don't know if you saw a post of mine with a the link but China's smog is so thick you can't see through it. Stop with the disinformation.

And yet you ignore the tax implications of carbon taxes.

Not a single government prediction, not a single scientist prediction, not a single loud mouth leftie prediction has come true. Scientist can't agree, and the all mighty Al Gore the biggest hypocrite on the planet is the spokesman. Na not confused at all.

Well, that's certainly false, but you can keep to your irrational absolutes. Not as if I'm going to change your mind. No leftie here, I'm just a guy. Sheesh! What does you sex have to do with it?

Then I ask to be proved wrong, and I will be stand up enough to admit I am wrong, but you have to admit the list of predictions is very long and very false, and at this point comical. Whatya want to bet my list is far greater than yours of never happened than what was predicted and happened. My list goes back to the 80's.

a reply to: MarlinGrace

Which tax plan? Which research is funded by the US government? YOu do know that scientists exist worldwide, many not funded by the US government?

What predictions haven't come true?

Oh, there is Al Gore again.

Skeptics bringing out Al Gore means that they are in denial and don't have any real evidence to provide.

No one cares about a 10 year old movie and movie maker but the skeptics. I think you are the ones in love with him.

This has to be evidence enough all by it's self to prove, they must have some Funny Science To Hide Again!
If G W was a Fact and Known To Be A Fact Why Deny Other Scientist a Platform to Explain Their Views From?
That's Easy, They don't want both sides to be heard for fear of People Actually, using their own Brains and doing some Critical Thinking and Not Just Being, Sheep and Shear'd Bold & Penniless by Taxes.

BBC journalists are being schooled in how to cover science.

A progress report from an independent body, the BBC Trust, says Britain’s public broadcasting service shouldn’t be giving equal air time to climate change deniers and others on the scientific fringe.

The report found the BBC remains prone to “over-rigid application of editorial guidelines on impartiality” that resulted in the news service giving “undue attention to marginal opinion.” The author of the report, Steve Jones, emeritus professor of Genetics at University College London, cited the existence of manmade climate change as an example.

BBC Wash Post
Then again if you were allowed to listen of the debate with out being called a Flat Earthier or Stupid Skeptic, maybe you would be able to make an intelligent decision on your own with out being called names for not following the Heard!

The levels of Antarctic sea-ice last week hit an all-time high – confounding climate change computer models which say it should be in decline.
America’s National Snow And Ice Data Center, which is funded by Nasa, revealed that ice around the southern continent covers about 16million sq km, more than 2.1 million more than is usual for the time of year.
It is by far the highest level since satellite observations on which the figures depend began in 1979.
In statistical terms, the extent of the ice cover is hugely significant.

It represents the latest stage in a trend that started ten years ago, and means that an area the size of Greenland, which would normally be open water, is now frozen.
The Antarctic surge is so big that overall, although Arctic ice has decreased, the frozen area around both poles is one million square kilometres more than the long-term average.
In its authoritative Fifth Assessment Report released last year, the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change admitted that the computer models on which scientists base their projections say Antarctic ice should be in decline, not increasing.
The report said: ‘There is low confidence in the scientific understanding of the observed increase in Antarctic sea ice extent since 1979, due to… incomplete and competing scientific explanations for the causes of change.’

Antartica Ice
So, there is Science out there that says some thing different than what is the Religion of most of you tell us we MUST Listen To You and Only You and YOUR Science!

It's politics, not science, driving climate mania: Why are environmentalists and scientists so reluctant to discuss long-term increases in southern hemisphere sea ice?
UN computer predictions subject of ridicule: not got it right for 18 years
Across the globe, there are about 1m sq km more sea ice than 35 years ago
Authorities are now guessing global temperatures based on nearby weather stations

For years, computer simulations have predicted that sea ice should be disappearing from the Poles.
Now, with the news that Antarctic sea-ice levels have hit new highs, comes yet another mishap to tarnish the credibility of climate science.
Climatologists base their doom-laden predictions of the Earth’s climate on computer simulations.
But these have long been the subject of ridicule because of their stunning failure to predict the pause in warming – nearly 18 years long on some measures – since the turn of the last century.

Yes It's Politics
Yes it's Politics any Moron can see that it has to do wit MONEY!

originally posted by: nixie_nox
a reply to: MarlinGrace

What scientists are being funded by what agencies?

"Its da man comin to get us" is a lazy skeptical response.

If you don't have the projects, the scientists, or the agencies you are accusing, than no, you don't know what you are talking about.

Read it and weep smart guy Source

a reply to: MarlinGrace

Don't feed the residents of the city of trollolol.

It's a never ending loop.

did you know?

Climate change could make red hair a thing of the past if Scotland gets sunnier

www.dailyrecord.co.uk...

a reply to: Stormdancer777

I don't understand the point of what they are doing other than just being assholes.

This is why all this nonsense keeps getting passed. Both sides act like a bunch of babies.

originally posted by: nixie_nox
a reply to: neo96

Two years and I have yet to see you provide proof of anything yet. Just smoke screens to show that you enjoy being dramatic without any of the teeth.

Proof of WHAT ?

The climate has been changing on this rock long before man was ever born, and long before governments were created, and this country was ever formed.

Need a link for that ?

WOW.

Them things called history books have that thing called information about older civilizations that now sit under hundreds of feet of water.

Ya know that happened long before the industrialization of man.

Them 'evil' corporations did that too?

Blah.

a reply to: guohua

Great you seem to be someone who may know as I asked this question on page one and no one replied.



I asked which is it that raises the concern about sea level rise. Is it the Glaciers some of which are thousands of feet tall or the sea ice which is what most articles are about when they say there is more ice? Isn't a huge portion of the sea ice only centimeters thick. How much water does the sea ice displace?

I have read that Antarctica is experiencing a net loss of ice each year when factoring in Glacier loss so how does sea ice compensate for that?

originally posted by: OrphanApology
a reply to: MarlinGrace

Don't feed the residents of the city of trollolol.

It's a never ending loop.

Advice well taken... thanks

a reply to: MarlinGrace

About so many posts in realized I was providing legitimate sources the other side wasn't reading. Also no actual research articles from other end yet automatic "you're wrong nuh uh".

It's a loop...doing laps in a kiddie pool with the water running.

Also here is a good link to government funded research layout since you gave link.

fas.org...

a reply to: nixie_nox

Oh,. I'm not sure you're all there today, I know you're aware of this programs, you have to.
Federal Climate Change Programs:
Funding History and Policy Issues

Unless otherwise noted, all budget authority and estimates of revenue losses attributable to
tax preferences have been converted to 2009 dollars using the gross domestic product
chain-weighted producer price index.
Unless otherwise noted, all years are federal fiscal years, which run from October 1 to
September 30.
Numbers in the text and tables might not add up to totals because of rounding.
On the cover: wind turbines, Tehachapi Pass, California, Department of Energy photo;
window caulking, JupiterImages; photovoltaic panels near Alamosa, Colorado, National
Renewable Energy Laboratory photo by Steve Wilcox.

CBO.gov
Federal Climate Change Funding
from FY2008 to FY2014

Direct federal funding to address global climate change totaled approximately $77 billion from
FY2008 through FY2013. The large majority—more than 75%—has funded technology
development and deployment, primarily through the Department of Energy (DOE). More than
one-third of the identified funding was included in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act
of 2009 (P.L. 111-5). The President’s request for FY2014 contains $11.6 billion for federal
expenditures on programs. In the request, 23% would be for science, 68% for energy technology
development and deployment, 8% for international assistance, and 1% for adapting to climate
change. The Office of Management and Budget (OMB) also reports that energy tax provisions
that may reduce greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions would reduce tax revenues by $9.8 billion.

This report summarizes direct federal funding identified as climate change-related from FY2008
enacted funding through FY2013 and the FY2014 request (as well as a less consistent series
beginning with FY2001). It reports the Administration’s estimates of tax revenues not received
due to energy tax provisions that may reduce GHG emissions. The report briefly identifies the
programs and funding levels, as well as some qualifications and observations on reporting of
federal funding. It further offers some issues that Members may wish to consider in deliberating
on U.S. climate change strategies.

FAS.org