IRS Has Lost MORE E-mails

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
Sly politicians use non-government/work emails for the real shady deals

Stupid/arrogant politicians just lie.

a reply to: beezzer

Well, you know what they say ... Good people don't get into politics. If the happen to do so, they don't stay good for long.

Politics has the ability to corrupt EVERYONE that becomes involved with it.

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
Sly politicians use non-government/work emails for the real shady deals

Stupid/arrogant politicians just lie.

In the old days before electronic communications they had to lock down entire offices and go through everything one document at a time to find and eliminate evidence of potentially criminal activity.

Now they just have to remotely access it and make all the 1s 0s

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: beezzer

Well, you know what they say ... Good people don't get into politics. If the happen to do so, they don't stay good for long.

Politics has the ability to corrupt EVERYONE that becomes involved with it.

Politics may have the ability to corrupt, but only if the "dark side" is embraced.

a reply to: beezzer

Hey, here's a new one Beez. Watching Cavuto tonight, and he broke the story of the VA Admin was told to provide the medical records of a few million Vets, so the investigative committee could do an assessment of what actually happened with Vets applying for medical help.

VA told the committee....get ready, here it comes...

Those records are *lost*. Nope, can't find them, haven't a clue what happened to them.

It appears the VA has caught a mutated form the highly contagious IRS Email-itus.

Des

originally posted by: Destinyone
a reply to: beezzer

Hey, here's a new one Beez. Watching Cavuto tonight, and he broke the story of the VA Admin was told to provide the medical records of a few million Vets, so the investigative committee could do an assessment of what actually happened with Vets applying for medical help.

VA told the committee....get ready, here it comes...

Those records are *lost*. Nope, can't find them, haven't a clue what happened to them.

It appears the VA has caught a mutated form the highly contagious IRS Email-itus.

Des

This has gone beyond pathetic and is approaching disgusting right now.

Well, this certainly is one transparent administration. They kept their word on that, for once.

trans-par-ent: adjective
a (1) : having the property of transmitting light without appreciable scattering so that bodies lying beyond are seen clearly
b : easily detected or seen through : obvious
c : readily understood

So transparent, in fact, that we can see right through all their bull-snip lies!

Any computer tech can tell you 100% that this is nothing but lies and BS! And the entire IRS staff should be fired for lying. Simple lesson...lie...you're fired and can never work in government again.

Congress is asking for these hard drives.

a good IT professional will be ether take the platters from these hard drives and instal them in a new housing and read them.

or he it going to find they were erased and over written a number if times to make them unreadable.

no computer crash would remove all the data from the hard drive.

Now Obama's "there's no there there" comment makes more sense eh?

a reply to: ausername

If this is accurate....the IRS is gonna regret losing emails....big time...

Washington Examiner

By Paul Bedard

The Internal Revenue Service is about to get slapped with a harsh payback for messing around with conservative groups, blowing wads of tax dollars on employee conferences and helping implement Obamacare.
The House Appropriations Committee is set to OK an IRS budget of $10.9 billion, $1.5 billion under President Obama's request for fiscal year 2015, reducing the agency's budget to 2008 levels.

Below are the bill highlights about the IRS:

Internal Revenue Service (IRS) – Included in the bill is $10.95 billion for the IRS – a cut of $341 million below the fiscal year 2014 enacted level and $1.5 billion below the President’s budget request. This will bring the agency’s budget below the sequester level and below the level that was in place in fiscal year 2008. This funding level is sufficient for the IRS to perform its core duties, including taxpayer services and the proper collection of funds, but will require the agency to streamline and make better use of its budget.

In addition, due to the inappropriate actions by the IRS in targeting groups that hold certain political beliefs, as well as its previous improper use of taxpayer funds, the bill includes the following provisions:

-- A prohibition on a proposed regulation related to political activities and the tax-exempt status of 501(c)(4) organizations. The proposed regulation could jeopardize the tax-exempt status of many non-profit organizations and inhibit citizens from exercising their right to freedom of speech, simply because they may be involved in political activity....

www.conservativerefocus.com...

ETA: Another source...
washingtonexaminer.com...

Let the fun begin...

Des

a reply to: Destinyone

Really? Could it be true? We'll see the bean counters reduced to counting THEIR OWN beans for balance sheets?

Oh..now what would be funny enough to slap a rating on and run as a feature in the theater.

a reply to: Wrabbit2000

Yes Wrabbit...there is a Santa Claus

I wish I wasn't so busy, or I'd start a thread on this news. A good old IRS bashing thread..

ETA another source: washingtonexaminer.com...


Des

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
Unless every hard drive that those emails touched was physically destroyed, they are still "out there" somewhere. A top notch military computer forensic team could probably get them, if so desired.

More importantly any IT department worth anything backs its servers up to another media regularly according to a schedule. For example, many will do incremental back-ups to tape nightly, and a full back-up to tape once a week. Those tapes are usually stored in a fireproof safe, sometimes with even another back-up kept off site in case something happens to the facility (fire, flood, etc).

yeah, not buying their story here.

a reply to: Destinyone

Very nice...

The question then becomes if it passes as is, will Obama sign the budget bill. I am getting the impression, based on Obama's / his administrations actions to date, that they seem to think they are above the law and can do whatever they want.

Anyone with any level of intelligence can look at Chicago and see their policies do not work and that corruption permeates Chicago / Illinois politics. Anyone who thought that crap would not be dragged to the national level should have a sign that says "fool for believing in change" tack hammered to their forehead.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Big woop. Everytime our archive program runs or they upgrade Notes or Exchange, we lose emails. Sometimes people even (gasp) delete them.

You claim politics is all lies, then you defend those lies?

What are you?

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: beezzer

Well, you know what they say ... Good people don't get into politics. If the happen to do so, they don't stay good for long.

Politics has the ability to corrupt EVERYONE that becomes involved with it.

And if you don't conform they chloroform you, pour booze all over you and roll your car over a cliff after they pump you with some drugs.

originally posted by: defcon5

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
Unless every hard drive that those emails touched was physically destroyed, they are still "out there" somewhere. A top notch military computer forensic team could probably get them, if so desired.

More importantly any IT department worth anything backs its servers up to another media regularly according to a schedule. For example, many will do incremental back-ups to tape nightly, and a full back-up to tape once a week. Those tapes are usually stored in a fireproof safe, sometimes with even another back-up kept off site in case something happens to the facility (fire, flood, etc).

yeah, not buying their story here.

And....
If the story that I heard on ABC News(radio) this morning is true, a system to back up those servers at the IRS is mandated by law.

Some may know this...some may not. So as a computer tech, programmer and website designer, here is the truth. First...the government isn't using Gmail or AOL. They have their own servers and many of them all over the place, or...they are using another company's servers. So Louis sits at her computer and composes an email. While she is typing, the text of the email is in the computer's memory but when she sends and/or exits the program...the program saves the email to her computer's hard disk. When she sends the email, it travels via her internet connection (or network) to the email server...another computer, where the email is stored and forwarded to the recipient's email address. So far...two computers, hers and the server have the email. Typically and probably required by government, her server also has a back up system and/or a RAID drive (another form of backup). By the end of the day...that email is in three places...her computer, their server and the backup.

Off the email goes to the server of the recipient. It will be stored there until the recipient logs into their email program. At that time, that email is transferred to the recipient's computer...and they may read it. Their server also has a backup...the email is now in six locations...MINIMUM!

Consider this...if that initial email went to the recipient and was CC'ed to two other people...the math goes like this:

(1 sender x 3 locations) + ((1 recipient + copies) x 3) = number of copies of the email...roughly.

That doesn't consider the following. The recipient forwards a copy to their Gmail...or...they sent it to their cell phone, tablet or home computer. We are also assuming there is only one backup...there could be many more including an off-site backup. We aren't considering that the sent email was a response to an initial email (maybe a question being answered).

So...again...BS!!!!!!!!!! That year or whatever was (in my opinion) on about 50 different computers and backups and from what I've read, only her computer "crashed". Which...FYI...hardly ever means the hard disk is wiped clean. Usually it would crash for another reason. But even so...if the hard drive crashed...data on it CAN BE RECOVERED!! Read that...it can be recovered. Probably 95% of the time. But...that is only if you WANT it recovered. Even so...49 other computers (at least) would have to crash including servers and backups.

ONE IN A BILLION CHANCE! Just my guess. LIES people! Nothing but lies. But we knew that because she pleaded the 5th. I will not speak on the grounds I will incriminate myself. Incriminate...expose myself as a criminal. She had something to hide...the computers still do...but YOUR GOVERNMENT thinks you are an idiot, stupid, knuckle-dragger. ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE THAT?

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE Well written and very informative. Thank You! Helps one better understand how much crap the IRS is full of.