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Defying Russian warnings, Moldova and Georgia head for EU pact

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posted on Jun, 13 2014 @ 01:16 AM
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a reply to: MrSpad

I know what the word Fascist means. If the US doesn't want to be regarded as Fascist then they should stop displaying the Fascist Symbols all over the place then!

And by the way Georgia and Moldova are being paid off regardless of what you think. Bail out money is usually considered a bribe of some sort.

The more you look the more you see the veil of an Iron Curtain being created to cut Russia off from the West.

As an analyst said:


Plan A was to rapidly install a government in Kiev that would join NATO and then officially hand the Sevastopol Black Sea naval base in Crimea to the United States. The political writer believes that reincorporating Crimea into Russia was a necessary defensive measure by Putin to prevent this. This Russian 'defensive move' was a "very reasonable middle course. If Russia failed to defend itself, it risked losing its entire southern fleet, a total national disaster. On the other hand, if Russia reacted, as was more likely, the US thereby won a political victory that was perhaps its main objective. Putin's totally defensive response is portrayed by Western mainstream media, echoing their political leaders, as unprovoked "Russian expansionism," which the propaganda machine to Hitler grabbing Czechoslovakia and Poland.


US eager to set Iron Curtain between Russia and Europe

Now all that makes a hell of a lot of sense and explains what all this is all about. Russia as usual is being portrayed by our Pathetic Mainstream Media as the baddie and CAPTAIN AMERICA is coming to save the world from the baddies with their Terrorist One World Army NATO at their heels!

This is from an analyst who seems to be awake as to what is happening. Very believable. Makes sense!





posted on Jun, 13 2014 @ 06:15 AM
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a reply to: Dorrell

Cut Russia off from the world...

Out of curiosity do you not feel ridiculous just making that statement? There is no way to cut them off and if you looked outside Russian propaganda you would see that no country is attempting to do that. That statement is a way for Russia to try and justify their foreign policy towards former SSR's.

When former SSR's would rather be a part of the EU or NATO or non aligned, all one needs to do is look at how those nations were treated under Soviet occupation. At the end of WWII, when the allies laid out their post war strategy, it was agreed by all powers, including the USSR, that elections would be held in occupied countries to return sovereign control. The USSR broke that agreement so it does not take a rocket scientist to explain why those nations want nothing to do with Russia today.

Its nothing more than an excuse by putin to blame the situation he created on someone else. As has been stated time and again, everything Putin has done has resulted in the complete opposite affect. If you want a country to be an ally then maybe approach them as equals instead of what Russia has ben doing, demanding, dictating and invading / threaten to invade to get what they want.



posted on Jun, 13 2014 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Dorrell

Cut Russia off from the world...

Out of curiosity do you not feel ridiculous just making that statement? There is no way to cut them off and if you looked outside Russian propaganda you would see that no country is attempting to do that. That statement is a way for Russia to try and justify their foreign policy towards former SSR's.

When former SSR's would rather be a part of the EU or NATO or non aligned, all one needs to do is look at how those nations were treated under Soviet occupation. At the end of WWII, when the allies laid out their post war strategy, it was agreed by all powers, including the USSR, that elections would be held in occupied countries to return sovereign control. The USSR broke that agreement so it does not take a rocket scientist to explain why those nations want nothing to do with Russia today.

Its nothing more than an excuse by putin to blame the situation he created on someone else. As has been stated time and again, everything Putin has done has resulted in the complete opposite affect. If you want a country to be an ally then maybe approach them as equals instead of what Russia has ben doing, demanding, dictating and invading / threaten to invade to get what they want.



I said cut off Russia from the West not the World! AKA the European Union.

And by the way Putin only threatened to invade. The US and EU DID invade and the US has illegally invaded plenty of countries before using BS Humanitarian Excuses!

Cannot believe there are people that still cannot see through the Lies and Propaganda from the US, UK and EU.


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posted on Jun, 13 2014 @ 09:45 AM
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originally posted by: Dorrell
a reply to: MrSpad

I know what the word Fascist means. If the US doesn't want to be regarded as Fascist then they should stop displaying the Fascist Symbols all over the place then!

And by the way Georgia and Moldova are being paid off regardless of what you think. Bail out money is usually considered a bribe of some sort.

The more you look the more you see the veil of an Iron Curtain being created to cut Russia off from the West.

As an analyst said:


Plan A was to rapidly install a government in Kiev that would join NATO and then officially hand the Sevastopol Black Sea naval base in Crimea to the United States. The political writer believes that reincorporating Crimea into Russia was a necessary defensive measure by Putin to prevent this. This Russian 'defensive move' was a "very reasonable middle course. If Russia failed to defend itself, it risked losing its entire southern fleet, a total national disaster. On the other hand, if Russia reacted, as was more likely, the US thereby won a political victory that was perhaps its main objective. Putin's totally defensive response is portrayed by Western mainstream media, echoing their political leaders, as unprovoked "Russian expansionism," which the propaganda machine to Hitler grabbing Czechoslovakia and Poland.


US eager to set Iron Curtain between Russia and Europe

Now all that makes a hell of a lot of sense and explains what all this is all about. Russia as usual is being portrayed by our Pathetic Mainstream Media as the baddie and CAPTAIN AMERICA is coming to save the world from the baddies with their Terrorist One World Army NATO at their heels!

This is from an analyst who seems to be awake as to what is happening. Very believable. Makes sense!




Its plainly obvious to many that your understanding of the US is through some skewed sense of anti US propaganda. Thats fine but please tell me where all the fascists symbols since you said there everywhere. See again thats just not reality but i noticed from your posts reality is shall we say not in your repartee. Russia is far closer to fascists than Americans there media is controlled completely by law. Anyone who disagrees with Putin is sent to jail. And lets not forget the same exact tactics to maintain control villainize an enemy so the people dont pay attention to what your doing. Not to mention stalinism had many similarities as well and the ghost of that is still around in Russia.



posted on Jun, 13 2014 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr

Not another believer of Western Propaganda and garden fairies!




posted on Jun, 13 2014 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: Dorrell

So in other words you cant dispute the facts and can only avoid the issue. See reality of putin's dictatorship is hard to debate i get it tough to acknowledge he uses the same tactics as hitler. But by all means show us putin isnt lockimg people up and comtolling the media i can have fun wih that.



posted on Jun, 13 2014 @ 05:39 PM
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a reply to: Dorrell




Cannot believe there are people that still cannot see through the Lies and Propaganda from the US, UK and EU.


And you forgot to put all Russian media on your propaganda list.

And it is astonishing how people are believing anything shown to them from Russian media, but then again when the government decides what you are allowed to see in the media I guess it really isn't that astonishing.



posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 03:12 AM
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U.S. Confirms Russia Sent Tanks, Weapons to Ukrainian Separatists


The State Department announced on Friday that it has confirmed that Russia, which has repeatedly denied stoking unrest in Ukraine, sent tanks, rocket launchers and other weapons into the country.

The New York Times reports that "a Western official said that the intelligence about the movement of the tanks and other weapons into Ukraine was shared on Friday with NATO allies," after affirming that tanks seen on Ukrainian streets were, in fact, of Russian origin.

The State Department added on Friday that it expects the Kremlin to deny the claim, saying, "Russia will claim these tanks were taken from Ukrainian forces, but no Ukrainian tank units have been operating in that area,” but adding that it is confident the tanks, and other weapons, are from Russia:


Click link for remainder of article...


Russia Just Significantly Escalated The Crisis In Ukraine



posted on Jun, 14 2014 @ 01:36 PM
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I have to agree this changes things now i guarantee UKRAINE starts recieving military assistance from the Us and Eu. Incredibly dumb move by Putin i guess he figured without help his insurgents couldnt hold on. Problem is now he has no deniability with the UN. And to make matters worse this gurantees further acriom towqrds Russia from EU and US and i dont think its long before troops hit the ground since Putin seems to be pushing for it.
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posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 01:50 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

The EU has done such a great job ruining countries.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 05:18 AM
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a reply to: Agent_USA_Supporter




The EU has done such a great job ruining countries.



And Russia has done such a good job with their own country I see.

They can't even get it right at home, so why would another country want to be ruled by them again?
edit on 16-6-2014 by tsurfer2000h because: (no reason given)




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