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If religion gets a forum, perhaps we can ask the owners to start a Gay Bashing forum, its become literally unbearable to read this rubbish lately. And I'm one of those members who can't stand when someone says "ATS has has gone downhill lately" but this gay bashing stuff is intolerable and I don't see what it has to do with Above Top secret. Make the forum, and out the haters or stop these repulsive hate threads.
You are quite right, but it really doesn't matter that you're right. Look at all the comments here that refuse to address your point. It makes me think of people who don't really want to take note of what you said and have a conversation.
I hope to Heaven that I am wrong, but I try to go with the evidence, and I've been given some new evidence on this issue. I really do hope that someone can show me that I'm wrong, not with name calling or dodging the issue, but with thoughtful, relevant information.
The new information was primarily three words: "We are enemies." That was like a cold shower, but it made things fit into place. This was never about "tolerance," or "acceptance," or even "equal rights." There was never any serious effort to persuade people to be brothers. They have declared war, and calling them hypocrites, even if it is true, will have absolutely no effect.
The goal, as I have seen presented in a number of places is to have people with( "alternative sexual proclivities?") declared a specially protected group. This would provide privileges not available to heterosexuals, in short winning a triumph over them.
Anything is legitimate to that group if it improves their chances to win their victory. Most people remember Branden Eich who was tossed out of his job as CEO of Mozilla after two weeks on the job. His offense was donating $1000 to Proposition 8 (for the wrong side). There wasn't any reference to it until 6 years later when his contribution was discovered. Interestingly enough, the donation was made at the very same time that Obama was delivering remarks supporting traditional marriage.
originally posted by: txinfidel
a reply to: Annee
Reminds be of the fall of George Wallace.
The public has reached the tipping point of discrimination against LGBT.
The majority voice is being heard.
The LGBTQ umbrella? Lets break it down. I can tolerate gay and lesbians or bi's as long as they don't shove their gayness in my face. But as for T which also stands for transexual as well as transgendered, the transexual I can not stand and will not tolerate somebody who wants to mutilate their body to become the opposite sex and go in the opposite sex bathrooms and be totally creepy. NO I will not stand for that.
originally posted by: txinfidel
Yes well look no further than Donald Stirling. Now I don't agree with what the guy allegedly said. But he has a right to his opinion and definitely has a right to speak it. Nobody has a right to strip him of his wealth without a guilty conviction for a CRIME at the very least, but instead an outburst inside his own home.
Clear violation of the fourth amendment and the first. I don't agree with what he said, but I agree that he has a right to say it, unless we live in North Korea.
You can see the polarization in america like blood on a dog. A weakness. WE are welcoming all of our enemies to attack. The doors are open, there is a red carpet that says come on in, attack us.
originally posted by: johnnyjoe1979
Atheists need God to be against it/Him, they can't exist without. To me there will always be only one definition of love and that doesn't involve same genders, agree to disagree and leave it at that.
originally posted by: johnnyjoe1979
Atheists need God to be against it/Him, they can't exist without.
To me there will always be only one definition of love and that doesn't involve same genders, agree to disagree and leave it at that.
originally posted by: peter vlar
originally posted by: johnnyjoe1979
Atheists need God to be against it/Him, they can't exist without.
You can't be against something that you don't believe in. True story. It's like saying that you hate the tooth fairy, the only people who will be affected are those who believe in the tooth fairy and the entirety of that demographic is under the age of 10.
To me there will always be only one definition of love and that doesn't involve same genders, agree to disagree and leave it at that.
originally posted by: johnnyjoe1979
True, it's without God as poster above wrote. But then one still defines once's stance in life as without God, instead of a complete absence.
No I can like people, but there's no love involved.
I understand it must be different. When I see ads using 'love' it's sad but also funny, people making out with hamburgers, cars, etc., I know it's never meant that way but then why use the word.
To me it has a different meaning and only applies to couples and it's there to signal two people can mate with eachother. I
originally posted by: johnnyjoe1979
True, it's without God as poster above wrote. But then one still defines once's stance in life as without God, instead of a complete absence.