NRA blasts Open Carry Texas after San Antonio incidents

originally posted by: ImaFungi
a reply to: TKDRL

But they look like they are up to no good, I feel very threatened. I think im going to follow them and shoot them, this is ok right?

So a guy is walking through a neighborhood at night and is being followed by a creepy guy, he should shoot you right?

Please promise me you will never carry a firearm, it takes a lot of responsibility and common sense and I can see you have neither. It's ok though, don't let it get you down. Everybody isn't responsible enough to carry one. That's the problem now.

I am and always have been 110% for the second amendment and am strictly against registration of anykind.
But lately I have been thinking maybe people should take an I.Q. test maybe and have a mental evaluation to carry a firearm.... Law enforcement also.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: DelMarvel

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
I have seen people carrying guns, and it didn't bother me in the slightest. They weren't people that were dangerous. Instinct can tell us if a person is dangerous, and that isn't dependent on what they might or might not carry.

Anyone who sees two morons like this walk into a public place and does not consider the possibility they pose a threat is a fool.

He has his finger next to the trigger for crying out loud.

Neither of them are carrying "MACHINE GUNS"......

now who is the halfwit?

I agree with the fact they are in the wrong but if your going to argue the issue at least know what your talking about.

Speaking as a Brit who has frequently been a tourist in the US, I can say that if I saw two armed twits like that in anywhere I wandered into for lunch, I would definitely turn around and run the other way. They would scare the crap out of me. What the hell does someone need a machine gun next to them for lunch? Oh wait, they're the Open Carry Texas halfwits.

originally posted by: LarryLove

originally posted by: macman
a reply to: links234

Socialist and Progressives will never get it. No one here expects you to get it either.

Republicans and right wingers don't either. This one isn't about your right to drive a tank or fly an Apache attack helicopter down the main drag but common sense and manners when wanting to parade the right to bear arms.

Edit: parade because that is what this is, nothing more. An ego trip with a long gun and not in any way a protest with resonance. Before you go questioning my post motives, read previous retorts and you will see I am balanced on the issue — generally. When the world looks on what does it see?

1. It's not about right or left

2. Do you know the difference between an Apache attack helicopter and an AR-15?
seriously? can you tell the difference?
Moronic statements like that are like..... DUH, I guess since you have a drivers license you think you have the right to drive a locomotive down main street and run over children...idiocracy...

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

You raise a good point, thank you.

So if it's a bad guy that walks into the establishment with a rifle and starts shooting people you will....?

You will push your wife under the table and dial 911, panic and wait 10 minutes for the police to show up?

Maybe you can throw a ketchup bottle at them?

Sucks to be defenseless when your wife's life may be in jeopardy and you could have maybe done something to save it.

a reply to: ImaFungi

I was going to say no, not at all.....

But then you threw in the scarey "hood".

Yeah, now you have a right to kill somebody..../sarcasm

originally posted by: mwood
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

You raise a good point, thank you.

So if it's a bad guy that walks into the establishment with a rifle and starts shooting people you will....?

You will push your wife under the table and dial 911, panic and wait 10 minutes for the police to show up?

Maybe you can throw a ketchup bottle at them?

Sucks to be defenseless when your wife's life may be in jeopardy and you could have maybe done something to save it.

What's with the Wayne LaPierre fantasy of stopping a robber with a gun in a restaurant? How many times does that happen? What are the odds of hitting a passerby? Why do so many people buy the NRA's desperate fantasies?

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

www.breitbart.com...

You really should stop getting your talking points from MDA.

A search can provide more then just the situations provided.

Also, here is the specific case of a gun in a restaurant.
www.myfoxatlanta.com...

Your ignorance is blinding you to the facts of what happens in the US.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: mwood
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

You raise a good point, thank you.

So if it's a bad guy that walks into the establishment with a rifle and starts shooting people you will....?

You will push your wife under the table and dial 911, panic and wait 10 minutes for the police to show up?

Maybe you can throw a ketchup bottle at them?

Sucks to be defenseless when your wife's life may be in jeopardy and you could have maybe done something to save it.

What's with the Wayne LaPierre fantasy of stopping a robber with a gun in a restaurant? How many times does that happen? What are the odds of hitting a passerby? Why do so many people buy the NRA's desperate fantasies?

A friend told me to never try to teach a pig to dance because you'll only frustrate yourself and aggravate the pig!
Oink, oink...

originally posted by: vor78

How many of those cops, especially in smaller departments, barely touch their firearm for practice aside from the times their department mandates that they have to qualify with it? I'm sure you have a better idea than I do, but probably more than many people think or want to admit to themselves.

Depends. I've come across cops who were active recreational shooters and I've come across cops who intensely hate guns, even their own, and only touch them when they absolutely have to for the course.

I know when I've been out with smaller, more rural departments most were comfortable shooting. When I've been out with officers from a city department they were mostly inept.

If I had a dollar for every "trained professional" who thought tea-cupping was a good grip I could retire way early.

The overlap I've noticed from both working with them and shooting with them recreationally is that if a person happened to be a recreational shooter before becoming a cop they'll be good shots both in and out of uniform. If the person decided to shoot recreationally after becoming a cop they'll have both terrible handling skills and a terrible attitude. Often they quit the sport side of it pretty quickly which is unfortunate because spending more time behind the gun and having fun with people who are not cops would make them better cops and better people in general but there is so much insecurity among police they can't just have fun with regular people. Everything is either a competition or an excuse to avoid the competition that they've created.

Psychologically unhealthy people.

concealedcarryconfidence.org...

found this to be very helpful for fungi as a way to keep him alive.

a reply to: maria_stardust

Highly unusual?

I see it pretty regularly.

www.youtube.com...
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THINK!

a reply to: TKDRL
Carrying and holding a weapon in the 'ready' position is intimidating and menacing, in a city environment. Now, if you were deer hunting and held your weapon as such, it wouldn't be menacing at all. I'm for gun rights and always will be, but walking into a store or a restaurant carrying your weapon, in a city environment is counterproductive to the cause.

a reply to: UngaBungga
Which is why I live in the country and not in a city full of helpless cowards lol.

There are ways to peacefully assemble with openly displayed firearms to inform the public about the legality of open carry.

Walking into a restaurant without notifying anyone of your intentions, dressed like a tacticool douche with a rifle in the low-ready position is not the way to do it. They are hurting the cause and I honestly believe some of the fools doing this are anti-gun moles.

I am the most pro-2nd Amendment person you'll ever meet but these guys are seriously undermining the positive image of gun owners.

originally posted by: Answer
There are ways to peacefully assemble with openly displayed firearms to inform the public about the legality of open carry.

Walking into a restaurant without notifying anyone of your intentions, dressed like a tacticool douche with a rifle in the low-ready position is not the way to do it. They are hurting the cause and I honestly believe some of the fools doing this are anti-gun moles.

I am the most pro-2nd Amendment person you'll ever meet but these guys are seriously undermining the positive image of gun owners.

Agreed...Brandishing a weapon is a crime and it is all in the way it is carried as in a low ready or high port or as if your finger is on the trigger and pointed at someone.
Some fools do not know the difference...Until a cop lets they explain it to a judge.

Now about the so called assault weapons... A sub caliber weapon with a select fire switch capable of being used to pin down the enemy as to allow your guys to advance on the enemies position.

Or retreat!

My AR-15 is NOT a assault weapon!!! The anti gun fools made up that definition.
They are artful manipulators of the English language that have a profound effect on like minded fools!

a reply to: waltwillis
Or in some insane states, "brandishing a weapon" = letting cowards catch a glimpse of your weapon while restricted by a CCW permit. Reach up really high while carrying concealed and some wimpy idiot catches sight of your gun under your shirt hem, and blammo, you are brandishing your weapon. That is why I prefer open carry, also, a lot easier to get to a needed gun in an open holster, or in my case shrug my shoulder a bit and my long gun in my hands, than to reach through layers of clothing.

originally posted by: TKDRL
a reply to: waltwillis
Or in some insane states, "brandishing a weapon" = letting cowards catch a glimpse of your weapon while restricted by a CCW permit. Reach up really high while carrying concealed and some wimpy idiot catches sight of your gun under your shirt hem, and blammo, you are brandishing your weapon. That is why I prefer open carry, also, a lot easier to get to a needed gun in an open holster, or in my case shrug my shoulder a bit and my long gun in my hands, than to reach through layers of clothing.

Yes, I do understand that not all cops are aware of the law, but a good judge will hold them after court and maybe explain to them what they should have learned in school.

Wish I could list the times I had to go to court where the judge let me leave the court room so he could ream the lower end of some fool cop for bringing me to his courtroom.

I never lost a case, but I have lost my patience with stupid cops. They waste my time and the time of the court not knowing the law. The very first element needed to get a conviction is for the cop to show intent to commit a crime.
That requirement is a must to convict.

I hope that some day they will hire smarter cops and stop wasting our money going to court without cause.

Remember to be polite to the officer as he or she may not be all that well endowed with the gray matter as the average person. Let the judge have some fun with them.

As far as doing your best to keep the gun under wraps...Try testing yourself at home in the mirror or with a friend that is not anti-gun.

OK so Texas God bless 'em, has a concealed carry law. The thing is it's a privilege not a right. Classes, fees to the state, all have to paid for by the applicant to be permitted to exercise your "right". Now really given the choice, who would want to bring a hand gun to a rifle fight? So if if I lived in Texas I could pay for the privilege to be under armed or freely and fully exercise my 2nd amendment right, and strap on a AK or at least a AR, a few spare 30 round magazines and be legal, and unencumbered by fees, or the feeling that my lil' .45 won't get the job done if dire circumstances are encountered.

Hey if your too skeered to go into the cold hard world and see the reality, you should really stay home with bars on the windows and cop locked doors, disconnect to keep the bad things out of your mind and live with the thoughts that society is inherently good. I won't.

As far as the NRA they get the flipped bird. The big bald eagle bird of freedom. They have compromised our 2A too many times as a lobby. Useless.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: miniatus

originally posted by: CB328

why is it a big deal?

It's a big deal because it brings embarrassment and ridicule to the gun lobby.

In a world where mass shootings take place, it's also a big deal because it can cause a public panic .. If I'm sitting in a restaurant to eat lunch with my family, I would be very on edge if someone came in with tactical weapons for no good reason whatsoever .. What normal person would think "Hey, lets go to eat.. don't forget to bring your weapons!"

I get it that it's a form of demonstration/protest but that doesn't help make everyone else at ease.. I can absolutely see how that could be disorderly conduct, or inciting panic which is also against the law ( at least where I live )

Exactly. What the hell do you need an assault rifle for in a restaurant? Are you going to shoot the top of the ketchup bottle off? I've eaten at a lot of diners in the US and I can tell you that if I saw an assault rifle in any of them I'd presume that it's a robbery and then try and get my wife under the table whilst I rang 911 and gibbered with panic.

Go to IHOP after the clubs close and you will know why.