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originally posted by: CrawlingKingsnake
"More photos. Variables like speed and direction of travel of the second object, for start. Multiple angles, these types of information would be helpful in determining what the second object is and if it is even interacting with the helicopters in any way".
apparently I wasn't clear in my earlier posts. Not only did my friend not see this apparent object at the time he was taking the photo, but the helicopters DID NOT appear to notice it either. So it is not believed they were in pursuit of it.
The photo is what it is. There's no real "story" behind it to answer your questions. maybe you were saying there isn't enough information to speculate based on just looking at the photo, and you would be correct. But I posted more for people to play with and enhance the photo itself.
originally posted by: ArMaP
For those saying that all the helicopters have the rotors in the same position, only the first and the third have them in similar positions, as this animation shows.
The helicopters were numbered from 1 to 4 from left to right.
is it? I wouldn't have found a better picture or put together a better story behind it if I were out to create this large deception? I'm sorry for whatever it is in your life now or in your past that causes you to have such contempt for someone who is simply posting a picture that I found to be interesting, if only because of the "backdrop" that was a part of something likely very normal.
originally posted by: 3u40r15m
You know damn well you just found this picture on the internet. This is the works of a skunk.
originally posted by: CrawlingKingsnake
is it? I wouldn't have found a better picture or put together a better story behind it if I were out to create this large deception? I'm sorry for whatever it is in your life now or in your past that causes you to have such contempt for someone who is simply posting a picture that I found to be interesting, if only because of the "backdrop" that was a part of something likely very normal.
originally posted by: 3u40r15m
You know damn well you just found this picture on the internet. This is the works of a skunk.
maybe I misread your post somehow, but it appeared to me you were saying I pulled the picture off the internet with the intent to deceive. It's hard sometimes to infer tone or different writing styles, so I apologize if I was off base.
originally posted by: 3u40r15m
originally posted by: CrawlingKingsnake
is it? I wouldn't have found a better picture or put together a better story behind it if I were out to create this large deception? I'm sorry for whatever it is in your life now or in your past that causes you to have such contempt for someone who is simply posting a picture that I found to be interesting, if only because of the "backdrop" that was a part of something likely very normal.
originally posted by: 3u40r15m
You know damn well you just found this picture on the internet. This is the works of a skunk.
I'm not sure what to say to that....... huh....
originally posted by: CrawlingKingsnake
maybe I misread your post somehow, but it appeared to me you were saying I pulled the picture off the internet with the intent to deceive. It's hard sometimes to infer tone or different writing styles, so I apologize if I was off base.
originally posted by: 3u40r15m
originally posted by: CrawlingKingsnake
is it? I wouldn't have found a better picture or put together a better story behind it if I were out to create this large deception? I'm sorry for whatever it is in your life now or in your past that causes you to have such contempt for someone who is simply posting a picture that I found to be interesting, if only because of the "backdrop" that was a part of something likely very normal.
originally posted by: 3u40r15m
You know damn well you just found this picture on the internet. This is the works of a skunk.
I'm not sure what to say to that....... huh....
Either way, I love this reply.
originally posted by: 3u40r15m
originally posted by: CrawlingKingsnake
maybe I misread your post somehow, but it appeared to me you were saying I pulled the picture off the internet with the intent to deceive. It's hard sometimes to infer tone or different writing styles, so I apologize if I was off base.
originally posted by: 3u40r15m
originally posted by: CrawlingKingsnake
is it? I wouldn't have found a better picture or put together a better story behind it if I were out to create this large deception? I'm sorry for whatever it is in your life now or in your past that causes you to have such contempt for someone who is simply posting a picture that I found to be interesting, if only because of the "backdrop" that was a part of something likely very normal.
originally posted by: 3u40r15m
You know damn well you just found this picture on the internet. This is the works of a skunk.
I'm not sure what to say to that....... huh....
Lol no you weren't off base, that is what I was implying, I was half joking. But I just didn't expect you're reply to be so serene... Stifled me
originally posted by: Rob48
a reply to: groingrinder
More like proved it's been JPEG compressed at some point.
Do people never blow up their own photos? If they did they'd see these artefacts all the time.
originally posted by: groingrinder
But do they see them with a perfect square around them? Look closer my friend and you will see the jagged edge of compression around the copters, but a perfect square around the object in question. This is indicative of a cut and paste.
It was taken with a Nikon something...500 maybe? So a separate camera, which I believe is DSLR.
originally posted by: anniquity
a reply to: CrawlingKingsnake
I was wondering if your friend took this on a cell camera or a seperate camera? I don't know enough about photo enhancing or photoshop to help with details like that, but it might help some of the people here do a better analysis to have that info.
I love the pic. I'm headed to the desert SW soon and hope to see, and take blurry pics of, tons of aircraft.
The main reason I'm replying, though, is to tell you:
AWESOME thread title!
Too funny, I LOL'ed!
Thanks for sharing the pic.
originally posted by: ArMaP
originally posted by: groingrinder
But do they see them with a perfect square around them? Look closer my friend and you will see the jagged edge of compression around the copters, but a perfect square around the object in question. This is indicative of a cut and paste.
It's not a perfect square, but even if it was, if it's a 8 x 8 pixels square, with mixed shades of one colour, it's more likely to be a JPEG artefact than a sign of something that was copied and pasted (how many times do you make a perfectly square selection around an object you want to copy?)
In the image below (that was cropped from the image in the OP and had the levels changed to make de individual pixels more noticeable) you can see that the area where the "UFO" appears is made up of 8 x 8 pixels blocks.
The fact that there's an extra block to the right of the "UFO" because of just one pixel that was out of the previous (to the left) 8 x 8 square shows that this is a result of the JPEG compression, as even just one pixel has to be processed in an 8 x 8 pixels block.
originally posted by: groingrinder
OK SO IT IS NOT A SQUARE. [color=#CC0000]Notice the perfectly straight sides. Does that not scream something is amiss here?
originally posted by: gavron
A quick look in photoshop shows a rather sloppy cut/paste job on the helicopters and especially the "ufo". This is just a fake, and a pretty bad one at that.
originally posted by: groingrinder
OK SO IT IS NOT A SQUARE. [color=#CC0000]Notice the perfectly straight sides. Does that not scream something is amiss here?