The Lone Survivor Movie

OP, relax guy, it was just a movie.

Pure entertainment. I still get mad at Nacho Libre for botching that fight up with El Silencio.

No star, No flag.

originally posted by: PandorasBoxxx
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Please, it's just a propaganda movie to get more people to enlist. And this Lutrell guy is trying just a little bit too hard to share his story.

You think this makes people want to enlist?

That's like claiming schindlers list would make people want to be a Jew.

You better hope you never find yourself facing one of these boys your running your mouth about. Guess who that lone survivor would be?

You............

a reply to: Arnie123

Yes, in which case you can wonder why the surviving Seal is promoting, and helped to make this movie about his dead friends if it's just entertainment and Hollywood BS.

a reply to: TiedDestructor

You think this makes people want to enlist?

Yes, it doesn't matter they died. It is militairy fetish gun porn and this attracts people, just like FPS war games do, even though they get killed in them all the time.

This is a fact.

You better hope you never find yourself facing one of these boys your running your mouth about. Guess who that lone survivor would be? You............

Being a though guy by proxy huh?

Not impressed.


Btw, you are saying that I would be the lone survivor, I agree.

a reply to: PandorasBoxxx

OP,

Why do you persist in ignoring direct questions.

For example i asked you if you thought that the story of the the 19 men who died during Red Wings should not be told and you chose to ignore my question.

Its not often i say this on ATS but it does seem like you have a agenda.

a reply to: PandorasBoxxx

Yes

originally posted by: PandorasBoxxx
a reply to: Arnie123

Yes, in which case you can wonder why the surviving Seal is promoting, and helped to make this movie about his dead friends if it's just entertainment and Hollywood BS.

1. Have you ever seen a movie that wasnt promoted or book?


2.Probably because a large part of the proceeds from the book and the movie....go to the families of the dead brothers he lost and the fund hes set up for soldiers and their families returning from war......

I think its pretty sad you would talk down about a man who has done a lot for his fellow brothers in arms

you can concede that you either just have something against Lutrell , or you can just keep trolololooling

a reply to: PandorasBoxxx

I'm going to pray for you.


Have a great day.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Pfff, because I'm not going to humour you and answer specific questions that are part of posts that are based on a BS feel good idea in your mind.

a reply to: TiedDestructor

Oh no not a religious guilt trip.

How about this,

Smite me o mighty smiter.

originally posted by: semperfortis
a reply to: PandorasBoxxx

Yes

In that case I have to question your militairy and tactical expertise, aswell as your common sense.

originally posted by: PandorasBoxxx
a reply to: Arnie123

Yes, in which case you can wonder why the surviving Seal is promoting, and helped to make this movie about his dead friends if it's just entertainment and Hollywood BS.

Marcus Luttrell is promoting the dramatization of what he lived through to help support his main passion in life. The Lone Survivor Foundation. As it's mission statement reads:

The Lone Survivor Foundation restores, empowers, and renews hope for our wounded service members and their families through health, wellness, and therapeutic support.

Source

To each their own on who they choose to like, hate or show respect to. It's a free nation, of course. However, I didn't even know about his foundation before this thread and researching it for this reply. Now that I do? I respected him before... Now, I'll say that man will never have to PAY for a beer in my town if I hear he's around and thirsty. All he need do is ask, and he'll have 'em free the rest of the night.

a reply to: PandorasBoxxx

Question what you will

It changes nothing

Semper

First off Marcus Luttrell is an arrogant ass. He also has flat out exaggerated the events that took place. These 4 guys made rookie mistakes period. Lots of military and other experts have examined his story and the events that took place. His book is even worse than the movie.

Anyways because of their mistakes a lot of people ie other Seals and troops died rescuing them and we hear very little about them. Why was a ship named after Murphy and not for example the pilots who died trying to rescue them? SEALS aren't the end all be all of special ops. I get sick of seeing them glorified as the best. Lots of Spec Ops are as bad ass as the Seals. MARSOC, PJs, Green Berets, etc.

originally posted by: PandorasBoxxx

originally posted by: semperfortis
a reply to: PandorasBoxxx

Yes

In that case I have to question your militairy and tactical expertise, aswell as your common sense.

Well thank goodness we've got our very own keyboard warrior here to teach all the vets on ATS about how to run an OP. I await your burning enlightenment with great eagerness.

I dug the movie for entertainment for sure, although I did question how many times a person can fall down a mountain(4!!) and still be able to carry on. That seemed a little crazy. Upon digging for truth and accuracy in movie I ran across this site:
www.historyvshollywood.com...

At least something good came out of this for other vets. Marcus started the Lonesurvivorfoundation.

As a result of the movie’s popularity, the Lone Survivor Foundation , the nonprofit Luttrell started in 2010 to help veterans and their families transition to civilian life, has experienced heightened interest and an increase in applications from veterans seeking to participate in the foundation’s retreats.

Luttrell founded the Lone Survivor Foundation to provide other veterans, particularly combat veterans struggling with post-traumatic stress and other problems associated with life after the military, with the same course of treatment that helped him.

The retreats emphasize family counseling, therapy geared to children of veterans, and teaching pain management without a reliance on heavy doses of drugs. The foundation has also developed programs for soldiers who were sexually abused while serving.

www.texasmonthly.com...

Overall, the film drew attention to this incident and hopefully helped other vets to some degree, which it seems it has, and this alone makes it okay with me.

a reply to: semperfortis

Ok whatever but if you think that the events as portrayed in the movie were an example of militairy excellence or smart thinking in general I can't take you too seriously.

originally posted by: peter vlar

originally posted by: PandorasBoxxx

originally posted by: semperfortis
a reply to: PandorasBoxxx

Yes

In that case I have to question your militairy and tactical expertise, aswell as your common sense.

Well thank goodness we've got our very own keyboard warrior here to teach all the vets on ATS about how to run an OP. I await your burning enlightenment with great eagerness.

It seems I am one of the few that is not going around implying the existance of his own combat experience. I get it, you guys are all tough vets but you are not going to talk about it, you are just going to ask others about theirs while making sure that it shines through that you actually were in combat yourselves.

Gimme a break.

I say the same to you, if you think the events as portrayed in the movie were examples of great tactical decisions I can't take you seriously.

I haven't watched it yet. One thing I do know is nothing ever goes to plan. Ever.
I certainly wouldn't want to critique a real engagement based on a movie.

a reply to: speculativeoptimist

It is commendable that he started this foundation.

I still feel that he sold out by letting his Seal team look stupid in the movie.