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Originally posted by ADHDsux4me
I would like a good meaty pleasant discussion, about what you feel separates the humans from the animals, or if there is one.
One thought I had, was the difference between instinctual action, vs. planning multiple outcomes before hand.
A mouse sees cheese, the mouse runs for the cheese to eat it.
A Man sees a steak, does he buy it? Does he steal it? What are the possible consequences of both? This is planning out the possible outcomes.
Anyone Else have some thoughts on the differences between man and animal?
Originally posted by Amorymeltzer
its important, skip, to realize that even if a man is 'raised with wolves' as you say, there are a number of differences still in existance between him and his companions. you'll notice, never in my posts did i mention civilization, the so called 'triumphs' of man, or any of the normal arguments for our domination of nature as reasons for that very domination. because they're not.
i dont know if you read what i wrote, but if you did you missed it. the man who lives with the wolves still posses the ability to do far more than the wolves will ever be able to. the odds are he will even do these things. yeah, mayb ehe wont invent the english language, he has no use for it. but i bet you he figures out a lever, a club, and the taming of fire. thats what separates us. (in a nutshell. read the whole thread)
Originally posted by Emily_Cragg
A snake must calculate whether to kill and eat >THIS< now OR WAIT for some more opportune time, place, victim and circumstances. Snakes therefore are very intelligent, by design and practice.
A cow in a barn, on the other hand, doesn't have to do anything but stand, eat, drink, piss and poop and move its weight back and forth to swat flies. It never uses its brain to work out, locate, wonder or seek satisfaction for some arcene abstract need in future time.
Birds must locate food, all year long through different seasons, temperatures, fair and foul [fowl?] weather and be able to identify whether food is safe to eat or not. If you've ever owned a bird, you know they make a pet out of their owner long before their owner makes a pet out of them.
There are people whose dogs and cats are pets; and there are animals whose pets are people.
Originally posted by Emily_Cragg
Do you want me to tell you how my dogs have trained me?
That's just a little bit more embarrassing than asking either my age or sexual preference.
Let's just say, my dogs know me very well and they know how to get what they want, out of me.
Originally posted by spacedoubt
Long term awareness of our own mortality..
I don't think any other animals face this particular dilemma..
I also think that is why we invented Heaven, god, religion, etc.
The prospect of an afterlife, may have been THE ONE thing, that kept us
Originally posted by instar
The chimp tried several times just reaching and then realised it wasnt tall enough. It stopped and looked around then ran towards a chair, stopped again , went back for another look at the bannana, then went and fetched the chair and successfully got its bannana. Does this show an ability to imagine the consequences of the extended elevation the chair would offer if it stood on it? Did the chimp "imagine" itself standing on the chair and reaching the food? Was it forming a mental image, a conceptulisation of an idea?
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
After long deliberation, considering all the cognitive, social, moral, and spiritual considerations, I have come to the conclusion that the only difference between mankind and the rest of the animal kingdom is that human males are willing to pay for sex.