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the2ofusr1
reply to post by strawburry
Add to the fact in a strange twist that Russia has agreed to accept Iran oil .Oil is considered as good as gold .Russia will probably sell them weapons as well as help with there Nuclear needs ...Its a win win for both of them ...
strawburry
You also forget, Russia IS a NATO partner, in the Partner for Peace program (look out partner for peace members, next time it could be YOU! - Sign up for FULL membership TODAY!) or in Mob parlance, Gee thats a nice country you got there, shame something were to happen to it. Join us and we can gurantee your safety. - Signed, NATO.
BRUSSELS (AP) — NATO's foreign ministers ordered an end to civilian and military cooperation with Russia on Tuesday and told their generals and admirals to quickly figure out ways to better protect alliance members that feel threatened by Vladimir Putin's Kremlin.
The 28-member alliance, the keystone of U.S. and European security since the end of World War II, was reacting to its most serious crisis in years: Russia's unilateral annexation of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula, which the U.S. and its allies have condemned as an illegal land grab.
strawburry
If you think you are gona switch over night, or indeed even in the next couple of years off dependency of Russia, you have lost your marbles.
strawburry
How long does it take to make a ship to transport GAS fromt he US?
Probably a few years per ship, not to mention the wait time due to current orders being made.
strawburry
US has no where near the CAPACITY and LOGISTICS to ship GAS to the EU.
strawburry
You would need a few hundred ships continually shipping gas.
strawburry
Shale gas, that is going down well with the populus of countries I hear.
strawburry
All you are going to have with that is bad health, dirty water, taps on fire et al. Shale gas will not meet the capacity without destroying your own country in the process. Mass protests et al. once earth tremors begin and water becomes dirty.
strawburry
How long to get a piple line to the country, and one would need many pipelines from all those other suppliers. Talk about a nightmare.
strawburry
It would take the EU decades to ween itself off Russian gas. Anyway Russia doesn't care, they can trade east.
strawburry
Germany is the FOURTH largest economy in the world. They export a LOT to Russia, I think a lot of businesses have some sway with politicans. Germany is the backbone of the EU and once their economy goes down the #ter, the rest of the EU will suffer BIG.
strawburry
I cannot wait until we have an alternative to SWIFT/IBAN network, it is too expensive to send money over SWIFT anyway, I would rather use the BRICS alternative that you can be sure is pretty much soon to be turned on. About time we got some alternative network.
strawburry
A LNG tanker can be built in 30 days?
Got a link? I would be very very interested to see this.
They are far more complex than a regular oil tanker.
Xcathdra
strawburry
A LNG tanker can be built in 30 days?
Got a link? I would be very very interested to see this.
They are far more complex than a regular oil tanker.
My apologies. I misread that and thought you asked the time it takes for a vessel to go from the US east coast to a European port.
Anywhere between 7 and 12 months, depending on type of vessel, size of vessel and containment system inside the vessel. For the US there appears to be about 350+ gas / liquid gas / LNG / etc in service with another 72 to be built.
The one question not being asked is what other nations are building, who those orders are for, and how many vessels of the type above are currently being operated by other nations / companies?
How many vessels can be safely retrofitted for limited time use until newer vessels come into the fleet?
Finally the one area people have not touched is the focus on production of vessels to fill a gap created in the market by removing a market. While 72 are under construction, what is the total build capacity of the industry in affected nations? How high can that capacity go when focus is shifted to allow cargo vessels of the types needed to be given build priority?
You cannot discount a nations exports based on equal footing logic.
strawburry
Whilst you are there, check the capacity of each LNG tanker AND how much consumption the EU uses in aggregate, and then work out how many LNG tankers are needed, and count that in 7-12 months and that keep in mind the Gas consumption in the EU is GROWING not SHRINKING at a very high rate, AND, how long it takes to ship (30 days as you say) then offload to storage et al. ALSO, keep in mind that exports will reduce the local consumption availability, and now you can see why it will take decades.
Unless they can bomb the shat out of Syria et al. and then the time to get a pipeline online, and securing them from disruption in the bombed out countries.
How about Qatar? And that new pipeline?
Agent_USA_Supporter
reply to post by TritonTaranis
How about Qatar? And that new pipeline?
Things in Syria haven't being going well for the Qatar regime state.