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FDA vaccine insert lists Autism as an "adverse event".

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posted on Apr, 7 2014 @ 08:25 PM

so after recently being diagnosed officially with aspergers, i discovered that Cayenne stops negative emotional states cold it took me three weeks to figure it out - See more at:
reply to post by Danbones

Thanks for that. Great lead

Natural remedies are everywhere.

posted on Apr, 8 2014 @ 02:18 AM
reply to post by DAVID64

thanks Dave
the capsaicin does some very sophisticated things with nuerotransmitters too...
thats why its also a topical pain reliever
i have some top notch citations if i need to trot them out

its just not well known yet it works on aspergers and related issues
but Im working on that

posted on Apr, 8 2014 @ 02:21 AM
Here is the skinny on the DANISH STUDY mentioned upthread

American prosecutors are attempting to extradite a Danish scientist.

Poul Thorsen has been charged with 13 counts of wire fraud and nine counts of money laundering; a federal grand jury alleges that Thorsen stole over $1 million from autism research funding between February 2004 and June 2008.

Thorsen is said to have used the proceeds to buy a home in Atlanta, two cars and a Harley Davidson. He is said to have stolen the money while serving as the 'principal investigator' for a program that studied the relationship between autism and exposure to vaccines.

The Copenhagen Post reports:

"... [O]ver the four-year period he submitted over a dozen false invoices from the CDC for research expenses to Aarhus University, where he held a faculty position, instructing them to transfer the funds to a CDC account, which was in fact his personal account ...

Thorsen's research on autism is widely known in academic circles, where he was until this week a highly respected figure. A paper of his on the subject, which is known as 'The Danish Study', is quoted extensively to refute the autism vaccine connection."

When two of the biggest names in vaccine research and support turn out to be guilty of fraud, major deception, lying and making unsubstantiated statements, it really calls into question the validity of their work on the vaccine front … and that's putting it mildly.

Yet, this news has only been quietly shared by a handful of media outlets.

Countless American parents are putting their trust, and their child's lives, in the hands of the U.S. Centers of Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) every time they vaccinate their children. Yet two of the CDC's "go-to guys" have now been caught red-handed lying and, in the case of Dr. Poul Thorsen, committing outright fraud. This includes:

Dr. Poul Thorsen, who was involved in several key studies the CDC uses to support their claims that MMR and mercury-containing vaccines, among others, are safe.
Dr. Paul Offit, a very well-known and frequent proponent of mandatory vaccination, whose views are promoted by the AAP and who previously served as a member of The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP). ACIP is a 15-member panel of immunization experts, selected by the Secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. They provide advice and guidelines to the CDC on vaccine-preventable diseases.

its not the monetary fraud that makes this so despicable
think about the damaged children...and families...and the rich share holders
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posted on Apr, 8 2014 @ 02:30 AM
Aspergers is thought crime for me.And the definitions of it is so wide(no friends,etc).Clealy ,it's a great method for earning money.
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posted on Apr, 8 2014 @ 03:52 AM

I have a deep interest in poisons and poisoning the public...

That's quite an admission

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posted on Apr, 8 2014 @ 04:26 AM
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Are we talking about Wakefield? Oh, wait.

Anyway, a more sober analysis rather than the fallacious ad-hominem:

RFK, Jr. also parroted anti-vaccine talking points about the study that were hoary back when David Kirby first published the mercury militia Bible, Evidence of Harm, talking points like:

His study has long been criticized as fraudulent since it failed to disclose that the increase was an artifact of new mandates requiring, for the first time, that autism cases be reported on the national registry. This new law and the opening of a clinic dedicated to autism treatment in Copenhagen accounted for the sudden rise in reported cases rather than, as Thorsen seemed to suggest, the removal of mercury from vaccines. Despite this obvious chicanery, CDC has long touted the study as the principal proof that mercury-laced vaccines are safe for infants and young children. Mainstream media, particularly the New York Times, has relied on this study as the basis for its public assurances that it is safe to inject young children with mercury — a potent neurotoxin — at concentrations hundreds of times over the U.S. safety limits.

Notice how RFK Jr. really, really wanted you to believe that the Danish studies are the primary foundation upon which the science exonerating MMR and thimerosal-containing vaccines as a cause of autism rests, the be-all and end-all of the epidemiology studying thimerosal-containing vaccines, when in fact there are multiple studies and lines of evidence, of which the Danish studies are but a part. Also notice how he conflated a study’s being weak with its being fraudulent. The two are entirely different concepts, and it is entirely possible for a study to be poorly designed and executed without even a whiff of fraud. Be that as it may, the Danish studies, although they have weaknesses inherent in a retrospective design, are actually pretty darned good studies. As I said before, RFK’s whine in the passage above is the parroting of a hoary criticism of the Danish studies cribbed straight from anti-vaccine sites. The criticism goes like this. Anti-vaccine propagandists argue that because, beginning in 1994, outpatient records were used in addition to inpatient records for case ascertainment in Denmark for purposes of these studies, the whole set of studies must be crap. As Steve Novella pointed out, this change was not chicanery, and in fact Madsen et al tried to test whether the change in case reporting by doing this was significant. Here is a quote from Madsen et al:

In additional analyses we examined data using inpatients only. This was done to elucidate the contribution of the outpatient registration to the change in incidence. The same trend with an increase in the incidence rates from 1990 until the end of the study period was seen.

In other words, Madsen et al considered the possibility that adding outpatient records to inpatient records beginning in 1994 might change the results. They tested for that possibility and determined that the addition of outpatient cases did not change the trend of increasing autism diagnoses. Again, RFK, Jr. was either grossly ignorant of the facts or consciously distorting. (Take your pick–again.) The same was true of J.B. Handley when he repeated the same misinformation, and and of Ginger Taylor when she also repeated the same fallacious argument.

Here’s what was going on. In the wake of debacle the implosion of Andrew Wakefield represented, the anti-vaccine movement needed a distraction—badly—and they needed it fast. It would have been even better if the distraction were one that they could spin to make it look as though there were some dark corruption at the heart of the vaccine science. Like manna from heaven, about a year ago Dr. Thorsen’s case dropped seemingly from the sky. Never mind that it makes absolutely no difference to the science exonerating vaccines or thimerosal in vaccines as a cause of autism whether Thorsen is a criminal and thief or not. It was convenient propaganda, even though there is abundant evidence that Thorsen was not a major player in the Pediatrics and NEJM publications reporting the Danish studies.

posted on Apr, 8 2014 @ 06:29 AM
reply to post by GreenMtnBoys

If you could please get me some sources on this, I agree with you I just do not know enough about Herd immunity, but the way they try to sell it does not seem right!

posted on Apr, 8 2014 @ 06:43 AM
reply to post by GetHyped

yep you take the study authored by a criminal fraud to heart
if you call that science...then you may have been over vaccinated yourself

oh look here is another bit of trouble for you

The Deadly Impossibility Of Herd Immunity Through Vaccination, by Dr. Russell Blaylock...

...Those who are observant have noticed a dangerous trend in the United States, as well as worldwide, and that is the resorting of various governments at different levels to mandating forced vaccination upon the public at large. My State of Mississippi has one of the most-restrictive vaccine-exemption laws in the United States, where exemptions are allowed only upon medical recommendation. Ironically, this is only on paper, as many have had as many as three physicians, some experts in neurological damage caused by vaccines, provide written calls for exemption, only to be turned down by the State’s public-health officer.

Worse are the States, such as Massachusetts, New Jersey and Maryland, where forced vaccinations have either been mandated by the courts, the state legislature, or have such legislation pending. All of such policies strongly resemble those policies found in National Socialist empires, Stalinist countries, or Communist China. f

so are you a maoist or a stalinist?

Russell L. Blaylock is an American retired neurosurgeon and author. Blaylock introduced a new treatment for a subset of brain tumors, as well as improving certain operations treating water on the brain.

Blaylock was a clinical assistant professor of neurosurgery at the University of Mississippi Medical Center and is currently a visiting professor in the biology department at Belhaven College.[1] He is the author of a number of books and papers, including Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills (1994), Health and Nutrition Secrets That Can Save Your Life (2002), and Natural Strategies for Cancer Patients (2003), and writes a monthly newsletter, the Blaylock Wellness Report.

Blaylock has endorsed views inconsistent with the scientific consensus, including that food additives such as aspartame and monosodium glutamate (MSG) are excitotoxic in normal doses and that the H1N1 influenza (swine flu) vaccine carries more risk than swine flu itself.

something tells me he is much more qualified then you are...and since i have aspergers and have discovered something that am I

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posted on Apr, 8 2014 @ 06:58 AM
I don't know if vaccines cause ASDs
but there is way to much BS to accept that the proper safety precautions have been taken by the medical community at large
they prescribe a whole bunch of SSRIs for asds so there is plenty of money made from them to justify the quack medicine we re seeing regarding vaccine safety.
and it is up to the medical community to prove they are safe...and they HAVE NOT!

they just keep pumping out the school shooter juice out there....and DOPING UP THE CHILDREN TOO
oh yeah, and doctors are supposed to ask if you have guns in the house???


One quickly concludes that if the vaccines are as effective as being touted by the public-health officials, then why should one fear the unvaccinated? Obviously the vaccinated would have at least 95% protection. This question puts them in a very difficult position. Their usual response is that a “small” percentage of the vaccinated will not have sufficient protection and would still be at risk. Now, if they admit what the literature shows, that vaccine failure rates are much higher than the 5% they claim, they must face the next obvious question – then why should anyone take the vaccine if there is a significant chance it will not protect?

When pressed further, they then resort to their favorite justification, the Holy Grail of the vaccine proponents – herd immunity. This concept is based upon the idea that 95% (and some now say 100%) of the population must be vaccinated to prevent an epidemic. The percentages needing vaccination grows progressively. I pondered this question for some time before the answer hit me. Herd immunity is mostly a myth and applies only to natural immunity – that is, contracting the infection itself.

Is Herd Immunity Real?

In the original description of herd immunity, the protection to the population at large occurred only if people contracted the infections naturally. The reason for this is that naturally-acquired immunity lasts for a lifetime. The vaccine proponents quickly latched onto this concept and applied it to vaccine-induced immunity. But, there was one major problem – vaccine-induced immunity lasted for only a relatively short period, from 2 to 10 years at most, and then this applies only to humoral immunity. This is why they began, silently, to suggest boosters for most vaccines, even the common childhood infections such as chickenpox, measles, mumps, and rubella.

Then they discovered an even greater problem, the boosters were lasting for only 2 years or less. This is why we are now seeing mandates that youth entering colleges have multiple vaccines, even those which they insisted gave lifelong immunity, such as the MMR. The same is being suggested for full-grown adults. Ironically, no one in the media or medical field is asking what is going on. They just accept that it must be done.

That vaccine-induced herd immunity is mostly myth can be proven quite simply. When I was in medical school, we were taught that all of the childhood vaccines lasted a lifetime. This thinking existed for over 70 years. It was not until relatively recently that it was discovered that most of these vaccines lost their effectiveness 2 to 10 years after being given. What this means is that at least half the population, that is the baby boomers, have had no vaccine-induced immunity against any of these diseases for which they had been vaccinated very early in life. In essence, at least 50% or more of the population was unprotected for decades. f

but aspertame is ok
by the FDA

don't let them kid you...leeches are still quite active in medicine
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posted on Apr, 8 2014 @ 07:06 AM
reply to post by GetHyped

here is what happens to real doctors who PREVENT DISEASE
the doctor who discovered washing hands saves lives

Ignaz Semmelweis
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fields Obstetrics, surgeries
Alma mater Universities of Vienna and Pest
Known for Introducing hand disinfection standards, in obstetrical clinics, from 1847
Ignaz Philipp Semmelweis[Note 1] (July 1, 1818 – August 13, 1865) (born Ignác Fülöp Semmelweis) was a Hungarian physician of German extraction[1][2] now known as an early pioneer of antiseptic procedures.

Described as the "savior of mothers", Semmelweis discovered that the incidence of puerperal fever could be drastically cut by the use of hand disinfection in obstetrical clinics. Puerperal fever was common in mid-19th-century hospitals and often fatal, with mortality at 10%–35%. Semmelweis proposed the practice of washing with chlorinated lime solutions in 1847 while working in Vienna General Hospital's First Obstetrical Clinic, where doctors' wards had three times the mortality of midwives' wards.[3] He published a book of his findings in Etiology, Concept and Prophylaxis of Childbed Fever.

Despite various publications of results where hand-washing reduced mortality to below 1%, Semmelweis's observations conflicted with the established scientific and medical opinions of the time and his ideas were rejected by the medical community. Some doctors were offended at the suggestion that they should wash their hands and Semmelweis could offer no acceptable scientific explanation for his findings.

Semmelweis's practice earned widespread acceptance only years after his death, when Louis Pasteur confirmed the germ theory and Joseph Lister, acting on the French microbiologist's research, practiced and operated, using hygienic methods, with great success. In 1865, Semmelweis was committed to an asylum, where he died at age 47 after being beaten by the guards, only 14 days after he was committed.

too bad not much has changed...quack quack quack
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posted on Apr, 8 2014 @ 07:10 AM

Aspergers is thought crime for me.And the definitions of it is so wide(no friends,etc).Clealy ,it's a great method for earning money.
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aspergers is high functioning autism
have a nice day
and hopefully normal children

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posted on Apr, 8 2014 @ 07:22 AM


Aspergers is thought crime for me.And the definitions of it is so wide(no friends,etc).Clealy ,it's a great method for earning money.
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aspergers is high functioning autism
have a nice day
and hopefully normal children

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Yeah,in THEIR standard ,like depressive disorder,ADHD is another kind of thoughtcrime also.

Thoughtcrime does not entail death thoughtcrime is death.

posted on Apr, 8 2014 @ 08:17 AM
I wish people would stop fighting over a cause and just find a damn cure.

Many things can trigger a person genetically predisposed to getting it...inflammation caused by auto immune over-reaction is the key, IMHO..whatever triggered it.

posted on Apr, 8 2014 @ 08:46 AM


All Seeing Eye
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Links please.

cayenne works...

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look isn't the first time ive re written the book
while the "pros" were contemplating the backs of their own teeth
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You might have misunderstood my request. I wanted links to share, I don't doubt it works for ya.

On another note, I had my counselor check me for AS. She says no. Im something else....

posted on Apr, 8 2014 @ 08:59 AM

I wish people would stop fighting over a cause and just find a damn cure.

Many things can trigger a person genetically predisposed to getting it...inflammation caused by auto immune over-reaction is the key, IMHO..whatever triggered it.

i have to wholeheartedly agree KJ
thats why I THINK the cayenne works

posted on Apr, 8 2014 @ 09:05 AM
reply to post by All Seeing Eye

my apologies..I am sorry i misunderstood ASE...its a touchy subject
ill get some links up..they don't directly connect cayenne to aspergers but they show the science of cayenne

in the meantime as Kosmicjack stated the inflammation seems to be responsible for a range of so called mental syndromes
i was diagnosed with a couple different related conditions..which came with a pile of ssri prescriptions which i won't take
the cayenne seems to have done the trick across the board.

ill get those links when i have time today

posted on Apr, 8 2014 @ 09:09 AM
reply to post by GetHyped

Are we talking about Wakefield? Oh, wait.
Anyway, a more sober analysis rather than the fallacious ad-hominem:

yeah ad hominem attacks

MMR doctor wins battle against being struck off
Professor John Walker-Smith, who carried out research into the MMR vaccine with Dr Andrew Wakefield, has won a court battle against being struck off the medical register.

well at least he didn't wind up dead in an insane assylum like the doctor who discovered washing hands saves lives

posted on Apr, 8 2014 @ 09:12 AM
make sense - FDA approved - another 'TopDown Establishment' to save the public.
Personally I never get vaccinated nor do my kids or grands - My wife and I don't have doctors.

posted on Apr, 8 2014 @ 09:38 AM
Not a smoking gun, actually its good science

"Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, SIDS, anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis, autism, convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy, somnolence and apnea. Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting. Because these events are reported voluntarily from a population of uncertain size, it is not always possible to reliably estimate their frequencies or to establish a causal relationship to components of Tripedia vaccine - See more at:"

This just means that some kids developed autism, along with everything else on the list, who took the drug. You can make the same list of adverse events with kids who aren't vaccinated.

We need to start comparing the list of what parents of kids who have autism has done in their lives vs parents who don't have kids with autism, and see what we can find

posted on Apr, 8 2014 @ 09:44 AM
So, would you ALL please pay attention to the research (of which there is plenty) that shows a great deal of autism is genetic or caused by in utero conditions.

I only say this, as even the quickest trawl through pubmed shows that 'vaccines as a cause' was a theory dumped by researchers about a decade ago. I've only seen a couple of papers in the last few years even investigating it, hundreds showing genetic and pre birth influences, many showing abnormal brain development and behaviour in pre-vaccine age babies.

As for Blaylock, never trust someone hawking quack remedies.

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