13 cops identified in ipcc investigation into Hillsborough cover up.

From the Beeb

Looks like a small proportion of those involved in one of the bigger police cover ups in the UK may not be sleeping so soundly in their beds...

To be honest, I don't have much faith in the system. They protect their own and it's been a quarter of a century since 96 people died in the pens at Hillsborough.

Stil, maybe Duckenfieild will get terminal piles from the stress if he's on the list.

SprocketUK
From the Beeb

Looks like a small proportion of those involved in one of the bigger police cover ups in the UK may not be sleeping so soundly in their beds...

To be honest, I don't have much faith in the system. They protect their own and it's been a quarter of a century since 96 people died in the pens at Hillsborough.

Stil, maybe Duckenfieild will get terminal piles from the stress if he's on the list.

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Antipathy17
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Here is a copy from The Guardian

Thirteen retired or serving police officers have been identified as "suspects" in the continuing investigation into the police cover-up after the Hillsborough disaster, the Independent Police Complaints Commission has said.

The commission said 11 of these had already been interviewed under caution relating to a range of offences including manslaughter, misconduct in a public office, and perverting the course of justice.

A spokesman said the other two would be interviewed in the near future. It is not clear what rank of officers have been identified as suspects or how many are serving or are retired. Four of the individuals have been identified by both the IPCC investigation into the cover-up and the new criminal inquiry into the 1989 tragedy.

The news emerged on the eve of the opening of inquests into the 96 Hillsborough victims in Warrington on Monday.

The IPCC is investigating allegations surrounding the alleged cover-up by police after the disaster, including evidence that statements were doctored.

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Cops are always covering up for other cops, or their families.

FIrst hand experience here, I was a victim of this.

LucidLucinda
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Cops are always covering up for other cops, or their families.

FIrst hand experience here, I was a victim of this.

I don't doubt you mate. Wouldn't trust one as far as I could throw em.











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Thanks folks. posted from my phone so not sure if that is the problem. Sometimes it plays up with ats.

www.theguardian.com...

The above is a report in the Guardian from todays verdict in the Hillsborough inquiry.

The jury's findings were -

1. Basic facts of the disaster: Do you agree with the following statement: "Ninety-six people died as a result of the disaster at the Hillsborough stadium on 15 April 1989 due to crushing in the central pens of the Leppings Lane terrace, following the admission of a large number of supporters to the stadium through exit gates."

Jury's answer: Yes.

2. Police planning for the semi-final match: Was there any error or omission in police planning or preparation which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation that developed on the day of the match?

Jury's answer: Yes

"We feel there were major omissions in the 1989 operational order".

3. Policing of the match and the situation at the turnstiles: Was there any error or omission in policing on the day of the match which caused or contributed to a dangerous situation developing at the Leppings Lane turnstiles?

Jury's answer: Yes

"The police response to the increasing crowd at Leppings Lane was slow and uncoordinated.

"The road closure and sweep of fans exacerbated the situation. No filter cordons were place in Leppings Lane. No contingency plans were made for the sudden arrival of a large number of fans.

"Attempts to close the perimeter gates were made too late".

4. Policing of the match and the crush on the terrace: Was there any error or omission by commanding officers which caused or contributed to the crush on the terrace?

Jury's answer: Yes

"Commanding officers should have ordered the closing of the central tunnel".

5. The opening of the gates: When the order was given to open the exit gates at the Leppings Lane end of the stadium was there any error or omission by the commanding officers in the control box which caused or contributed to the crush on the terrace?

Jury's answer: Yes

"Commanding officers did not inform officers in the inner concourse prior to the opening of Gate C.

"Commanding officers failed to consider where fans would go.

"Commanding officers failed to order the closure of the central tunnel prior to the opening of Gate C".

6. Unlawful killing: Are you satisfied, so that you are sure, that those who died in the disaster were unlawfully killed? To answer 'yes' to this question, the jurors must be sure of the following:
◾Firstly, that Ch Supt David Duckenfield owed a duty of care to the 96 who died
◾Secondly, that he was in breach of that duty of care
◾Thirdly, that the breach of Mr Duckenfield's duty of care caused the deaths
◾Finally, the jury must be sure that the breach which caused the deaths amounted to "gross negligence."

Jury's answer: Yes

7. Behaviour of the supporters: Was there any behaviour on the part of the football supporters which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation at the Leppings Lane turnstiles?

Jury's answer: No

8. Defects in Hillsborough stadium: Were there any features of its design, construction and layout which were dangerous or defective and which probably or may have caused or contributed to the disaster?

Jury's answer: Yes

"The design and layout of the crush barriers in P 3 and 4 were not fully compliant with the green guide.

"The removal of barrier 144 and the partial removal of barrier 136 would have exacerbated the waterfall effect of pressure towards the front of the pens.

"The lack of dedicated turnstiles for individual pens meant that capacities could not be monitored.

"There were too few turnstiles for a capacity crowd.

"Signage to the side pens was inadequate".

9. Licensing and oversight of the stadium: Was there any error or omission in the safety certification and oversight of Hillsborough Stadium that caused or contributed to the disaster?

Jury's answer: Yes

"The safety certificate was never amended to reflect changes to the Leppings Lane end of the stadium. Therefore capacity figures were not updated".

10. Conduct of Sheffield Wednesday FC before the day of the match: Was there any error or omission by SWFC and its staff in the management of the stadium and/or preparation for the semi final match on 15 April 1989 which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation which developed on the day of the match?

Jury's answer: Yes

"The club did not approve the plans for dedicated turnstiles for each pen.

"The club did not agree any contingency plans with the police.

"There was inadequate signage and inadequate and misleading information on the tickets".

11. Conduct of Sheffield Wednesday FC on the day of the match: Was there any error or omission by SWFC and its staff on 15 April 1989 which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation that developed at the Leppings Lane turnstiles and in the west terrace?

Jury's answer: No

11a If "no", was there any error or omission by SWFC and its staff on 15 April 1989 which may have caused or contributed to the dangerous situation that developed at the Leppings Lane turnstiles and in the west terrace?

Jury's answer: Yes

"Club officials were aware of a huge number of fans still outside at 14:40. They should have requested a delay in kick off.

12. Conduct of Eastwood and Partners (SWFC engineers): Should they have done more to detect and advise on any unsafe or unsatisfactory features of the stadium which caused or contributed to the disaster?

Jury's answer: Yes

Eastwood and Partners did not make their own calculations when they became consulstants for SWFC, therefore the initial capacity figures and all subsequent calculations were incorrect.

Eastwood and Partners failed to recalculate capacity figures each time changes were made to the terraces.

Eastwood and Partners failed to update the safety certificate after 1986.

13. Emergency response and the role of South Yorkshire Police: After the crush in the West Terrace had begun to develop was there any error or omission by the police which caused or contributed to the loss of lives in the disaster?

Jury's answer: Yes

"The police delayed declaring a major incident so appropriate emergency response was delayed."

14. Emergency response and the role of South Yorkshire Metropolitan Ambulance Service (SYMAS): After the crush in the west terrace had begun to develop, was there any error or omission by the ambulance service SYMAS which caused or contributed to the loss of lives in the disaster?

Jury's answer: Yes

"They failed to ascertain the nature of the problem at Leppings Lane.

"The failure to recognise and call a major incident led to delays in responding to the emergency."



Criminal charges against some of those most at fault are being touted...I don't hold out much hope after all this time, but I suppose in the light of this inquiry we should give them a chance to do the right thing.


The current heads of South Yorkshire Police and South Yorkshire Ambulance services are on tricky ground after their actions during this inquiry and it'll be interesting to see if they survive.

Don't forget other's were up to their necks in the conspiracy of silence (read: outright lies and cover up), not just the Police, although the Police there that day are of course mostly responsible for what happened.

Other parties include the Ambulance service, they too were lying their faces off over this, and then there's the bigs boys and girls in the Government at the time, probably the Home Office, who must have been giving the green light for the lies...they ought to all be investigated and if found guilty, punished.

I have a little more faith in the system now than I did before, the determination of the families and those campaigning has brought us to this point and they are not going to give up until justice is done.

Imagine what would have happened if the families had not carried on this fight, those responsible would have gotten away with this.

And indeed there are a lot of people responsible here. The Sun newspaper should be on the list of those to be investigated, there is evidence suggesting that they were involved in a deliberate smear campaign against the victims in this, possibly at the behest of the government or the police.

There was undoubtedly a concerted effort by various groups and individuals to attack the victims, I hope each and every one of them is brought to light and punished for their part in this.

originally posted by: MysterX
Don't forget other's were up to their necks in the conspiracy of silence (read: outright lies and cover up), not just the Police, although the Police there that day are of course mostly responsible for what happened.

Other parties include the Ambulance service, they too were lying their faces off over this, and then there's the bigs boys and girls in the Government at the time, probably the Home Office, who must have been giving the green light for the lies...they ought to all be investigated and if found guilty, punished.

Spot on. And I don't think it's a coincidence that most of the most grave allegations of paedophile rings amongst the higher echelons of government come from the same era.