reply to post by xmaddness
I think he is trying to give a realistic explanation, but he's invested to the point he's excluding evidence.
The transponders, the fan passports, flying for seven hours after, this happening in an extended range plane..
MANILA, Philippines — Fishermen claimed to have witnessed a plane crash into the waters in the Strait of Malacca off the North Sumatra provincial district of Pangkalan Susu in Indonesia.
The locals suspect that what they saw could be the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370. The authorities have yet to verify the fishermen's claim.
"We saw an airplane crash around the Malacca Straits," Hendra, a fisherman, told state news agency Antara on Monday.
Gut feel says this isn't what happened. In addition, experience pilots commenting or not, they left out a lot of pertinent information, and there is way more to this. Their theories neither appear all that well thought out nor appear as detailed as many (even those who basically say and have said what they do) The simplest answer is not inversely proportional to that amount of chaff being flung around about this. The simplest answer probably is a weapons test gone wrong or a meteor strike.
Chris Goodfellow has 20 years experience as a Canadian Class-1 instrumented-rated pilot for multi-engine planes.
The Learjet's cockpit voice recorder (CVR), which was recovered from the wreckage, contained an audio recording of the last 30 minutes of the flight (it was an older model which only recorded 30 minutes of data; the aircraft was not equipped with a flight data recorder). At 1710:41Z, the Learjet's engines can be heard winding down, indicating that the plane's fuel had been exhausted. In addition, sounds of the stick shaker and autopilot disconnect can be heard (with the engines powered down, the autopilot would have attempted to maintain altitude, causing the plane's airspeed to bleed off until it approached stall speed, at which point the stick shaker would have automatically engaged to warn the pilot and the autopilot would have switched itself off).
At 1711:01Z, the Lear began a right turn and descent. One NODAK 32 airplane remained to the west, while one TULSA 13 airplane broke away from the tanker and followed N47BA down. At 1211:26 CDT, the NODAK 32 lead pilot reported, "The target is descending and he is doing multiple aileron rolls, looks like he's out of control...in a severe descent, request an emergency descent to follow target." The TULSA 13 pilot reported, "It's soon to impact the ground; he is in a descending spiral." The fighter planes were at this point forced to break off their pursuit and had to land at local airports, having reached the limit of their endurance.
Impact occurred approximately 1713Z, or 1213 local, after a total flight time of 3 hours, 54 minutes, with the aircraft hitting the ground at a nearly supersonic speed and an extreme angle. The Learjet crashed just outside of Mina, South Dakota, in Edmunds County on relatively flat ground, and left a crater 42 feet (13 m) long, 21 feet (6.4 m) wide, and 8 feet (2.4 m) deep. None of its components remained intact.