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Should U.S. Pay for Ukraine's Bankruptcy?

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posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 01:38 AM
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Yeah, maybe. I still see no reason why the European NATO countries can't take a leadership role in this. This is more about the EU anyway. I just don't get why it has to be up to the U.S., she's spent, it's time to pass the "police the world" torch to someone else in the region.
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posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 01:57 AM
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If england,israel and u.s insists on playing big brother,
then they can pay the tab out of their own pockets.
better still,
Stop raiding and pilfering from the babies piggy banks.

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posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 02:59 AM
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marg6043
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You have to understand that US government is not the government we had decades ago, now is more owned behind the scenes by private interest, Walls street big names, the Federal Reserve and so on and on.

Is no longer a nations economy we are talking but the world economies, that means control over other nations future.

Yes the so call and infamous NWO is not a myth but is actually a reality, controlling economies and the fate of nations is big business.

Remember 2008 market crash, while it originated in the US we found out that spanned most emerging and developed countries in the world that do business with the US, secrets were out, eve China was no immune and not even the citizens knew how much their country was into US mess.

You think it can be stopped? no in a million year, even if a global crash happen the racketeers will be devising new ways to start all over again at the expenses of the people, because that is what we are nothing but collateral.



Well if someone has the balls enough to start a fire, I'm more than willing to watch it burn.
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posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 04:12 AM
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YES, of course, USA not only need to pay for Ukraine but also need to pay for Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt....and all the
countries that USA intervened in the excuse of spread "freedom and democracy". USA made all these countries in chaos, and must
take Responsibility for them.
Who poured oil over the flames? USA politician.



posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 04:22 AM
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gs002
YES, of course, USA not only need to pay for Ukraine but also need to pay for Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt....and all the
countries that USA intervened in the excuse of spread "freedom and democracy". USA made all these countries in chaos, and must
take Responsibility for them.
Who poured oil over the flames? USA politician.



How very one sided and political of you. Are you trying to say these were peaceful countries before we intervened?

Edit: I'm not defending the fact that the U.S. intervened, personally I think we should have stayed home, but at the same time we are not to blame for all the worlds problems.
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posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 04:23 AM
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Should U.S. Pay for Ukraine's Bankruptcy?

ofcource !

couse the US stimulated the revolution...they have to pay for it
everything has his price and if it turns out an miscalculation they will pass the bill to the EU
thats how it works...



posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 04:26 AM
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the ukrain gov. was democratic elected so wat is the value of "democratie" if every extreme group can start an revolt....with the blessing of western politicy's



posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 04:32 AM
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From what I have read it is a near 50 50 split between two very opposing views. Just because there were only a few thousand protesters doesn't mean that's all who held the same view. Furthermore I also haven't actually seen any definite proof that the west started this whole shabang. It more or less speculation. Lets keep with the facts eh?



posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 04:39 AM
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ressiv
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the ukrain gov. was democratic elected so wat is the value of "democratie" if every extreme group can start an revolt....with the blessing of western politicy's



Ever consider that Obama is a weak little short-bus kid and the Russians know that? It is very likely they could have propagated this thing, spread propaganda to put Obama on the spot, and watch as he does nothing as they retake their Russian empire?

Edit: Remember that Russians are masters of propaganda. ref the cold war.
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posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 05:47 AM
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doompornjunkie

gs002
YES, of course, USA not only need to pay for Ukraine but also need to pay for Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt....and all the
countries that USA intervened in the excuse of spread "freedom and democracy". USA made all these countries in chaos, and must
take Responsibility for them.
Who poured oil over the flames? USA politician.



How very one sided and political of you. Are you trying to say these were peaceful countries before we intervened?

Edit: I'm not defending the fact that the U.S. intervened, personally I think we should have stayed home, but at the same time we are not to blame for all the worlds problems.
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You should be very careful to spread "freedom and democracy" in Islam world, Strongman politics is quite suitable for them.
and for developing countries, enlightened despotism is the best choice. Blindly promoting your political system to them can
only get bad result.



posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 05:51 AM
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read what I said and try again. thanks.



posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 05:53 AM
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You are right, they were not peaceful countries before you intervened. OK?

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posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 06:26 AM
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MALBOSIA

Wookiep

MALBOSIA
29B/yr is pretty cheap for a Russian boarder.

How much does Israel cost? And for nothing....


Ok, noted, you are condemning the U.S. for supporting Israel, many on ATS do that and it's noted every day. It's a completely different topic, however, btw...

So what about the Ops title question? "Should U.S. Pay for Ukraine's Bankruptcy?"

If you think the U.S. should as a gesture of "why not, they pay Israel at the cost of nothing", (assuming you're referring to the FED who prints it, whereas the taxpayers flip the bill) where do you think the other NATO nations stand? Should they not play a part at all? This isn't even in the U.S. backyard. The EU wants a deal with Ukraine so why shouldn't they speak up, get tough and flip the bill?
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I meant "nothing" as in the US GAINS nothing from Israel. They are a liability across the board. Ukraine on the other hand has a very useful peace of property. If the US can control the politics in Ukraine it would be a very BIG problem for Russia. So it is worth something to the US.


what in the literal # does this have to do with Israel? Nothing. Learn about the history in the Ukraine and in Russia, and the history of the IMF and disaster capitalism. This has as much to do with Israel as #ing tea in China has to do with the price of meth in alabama.



posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 06:29 AM
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DeadSeraph

MALBOSIA

Wookiep

MALBOSIA
29B/yr is pretty cheap for a Russian boarder.

How much does Israel cost? And for nothing....


Ok, noted, you are condemning the U.S. for supporting Israel, many on ATS do that and it's noted every day. It's a completely different topic, however, btw...

So what about the Ops title question? "Should U.S. Pay for Ukraine's Bankruptcy?"

If you think the U.S. should as a gesture of "why not, they pay Israel at the cost of nothing", (assuming you're referring to the FED who prints it, whereas the taxpayers flip the bill) where do you think the other NATO nations stand? Should they not play a part at all? This isn't even in the U.S. backyard. The EU wants a deal with Ukraine so why shouldn't they speak up, get tough and flip the bill?
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I meant "nothing" as in the US GAINS nothing from Israel. They are a liability across the board. Ukraine on the other hand has a very useful peace of property. If the US can control the politics in Ukraine it would be a very BIG problem for Russia. So it is worth something to the US.


what in the literal # does this have to do with Israel? Nothing. Learn about the history in the Ukraine and in Russia, and the history of the IMF and disaster capitalism. This has as much to do with Israel as #ing tea in China has to do with the price of meth in alabama.


Well a lot of the chemicals we get, especially phosphorus are made in China.



posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 06:36 AM
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gee where was the us during "occupy"
shouldn't they have taken out the government in favor of the revolution and brought democracy to itself...?

naw
never happen



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