Could someone inform me as to what happened to John Lear's section, and why it was taken down?
I'm just a casual member who doesn't have the time to take part in that many discussions. But I recently noticed that Lear's folder was gone. All
that I've been able to gather is that ATS was supposed to release a statement regarding the issue, but I've yet to see it. I was hoping that
someone could fill me in or perhaps link me to the statement (if it was issued) and/or a discussion regarding the matter.
Thanks a bunch.
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 Originally posted by Rasputin13
All that I've been able to gather is that ATS was supposed to release a statement regarding the issue, but I've yet to see it. 
It was posted yesterday, here.
From this point forward, please use this thread to add additional links to important threads that involve John, or cover John's theories.
Thanks. 
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A silly question but ask yourself how many individuals know a given fact...for a fact? For example, how many individuals in the world, past and
present, know about the DNA double-helix? 147,211? 8,509? 1,702,955,526? 4?
The truth may surprise you. Any fact is only known by those individuals who have entered in to the zone where that fact was first uncovered or
discovered and where it continues to thrive. That includeds original scientists, believing academics, suggestive students, and the general media and
public.
So...a fact does not exist outside of the group of individuals who have embraced it as a truth, even if that group is...worldwide.
Fortunately, we don't run into problems when these 'facts. touch upon everyday things like gravity effects on the legs or the multitudinous number
of physical principles involved whenever Aunt Thelma takes us on a shopping trip to Wal-Mart.
But in the more esoteric realms of consciousness, existance, environment...as in for example frontier particle physics labs or in this case things
seen and believed by the JL group, a fact is summoned on command via TPTB and as required by the fact-finding community present or investigating.
This explains why I saw a UFO and you didn't. Or why Preston Nichols of Montauk fame greeted a lizard creature every day at work and you never see a
photo of it or can't stop laughing at the absurdity of it all. Or why the JL group sees facts that are quite real...but also that you or I can't see
or relate to UNLESS...we first enter into their fact zone and thus summon TPTB to create for our amusement...the world there being discussed and
marvelled at!
The delusion is in the illusion. A fact is a contemporaneous creation proffered for our edification by TPTB; it is a hot item with a few days (or
years or centuries or eaons) to kill...nothing more.
Eventually facts run out of gas and need to be refueled. TPTB are quick to replenish lost supply in the day-to-day world we experience lest we see the
void and begin to suspect that there is a man, after all, behind the curtain..pulling levers and turning dials just for our benefit.
So now you know why JL believes the facts as he does...and he is right...if facts are what we are talking about here...and we are; and you of course
believe as you do, in your own set of facts which may or may not be shared by anyone else but can be shared by the whole planet...if they were
inclined to accept them as you do; and never the twain shall meet in the middle: one side or the other must pass over into the opposing side's
zone...if one wants to see the facts.
That is why truth eludes most people: they presume, wrongly, that truth and facts are somehow related, interdependent, and necessary to connect the
dots of our worldview together.
This is why the evolutionist and the creationist will never win if they barter using facts.
Try having faith in God. That's what I do. Faith lets me see all this crap for what it truly (pun intended?) is - and that's a fact.
I now hand over the control of this forum back to you.
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reply to post by EyesII
Please see Skeptic Overlord's previous post in this thread:
From this point forward, please use this thread to add additional links to important threads that involve John, or cover John's theories.
Thanks.
Thank You.
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One of the first times I heard about the Dulce Base was when Joh Lear mentioned it in an article several years ago, and his report inspired me to put
together the 'DULCE BOOK'... some years later.
Branton
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Hi,
Maybe this is not the right place to ask, but after more than 180 days, I logged in today and cannot find my two discussions with Lear in one of the
threads (I remember it had more than 90 pages!).
I'd appreciate any successful help...
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Ok, thanks anyways. I just found the thread by using a brute-force strategy  ... ( www.abovetopsecret.com...)
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