Subliminal messages and reverse speech

I was looking through David Icke's latest book earlier today and found a section concerned with subliminal messages.

It appears that these messages can be included in a host of media as a means to 'program' people to purchase the item in question, or to perform a particular action - such as not to steal (Certain stores, such as K-Mart use this form of subliminal programming).

This can be done by including suggestive words and images that are not instantly recognised by the conscious mind but that the subconscious distinguishes immediately.

Subliminal Messages

The 1988 movie They Live includes the concept of subliminal messages in the story by John Carpenter.

An economic crisis brings unemployed Nada (Roddy Piper) to L.A. in search of work. What he finds instead is that the ruling elite of the world are aliens in disguise, their aim being to keep humans in a state of mindless consumerism. His discovery comes when he dons a pair of special sunglasses made by a resistance group and sees for the first time reality unadorned. Billboards, store signs, magazine covers--all bear subliminal messages to OBEY, to CONSUME, to have NO INDEPENDENT THOUGHT. Money itself says THIS IS YOUR GOD. But worst of all, with these glasses you see which of us are really hideous, bug-eyed aliens.

Now if they remade it using reptilians, that would definitely be worth seeing.

Another manner of subliminal messaging uses words that include 'reverse speech'. An advert includes a message which, when played in reverse, has a subliminal message embedded, which the subconsious mind can translate.

Some speech therapists believe that the true motive of people such as politicians can be determined by listening to their voices in reverse. The Reverse Speech site states that ...

If human speech is recorded and played backwards, mixed amongst the gibberish at regular intervals can be heard very clear statements. These statements usually appear in short sentence form and are nearly always related to the forward speech. It appears constantly throughout language, so much so in fact, that it is believed to be a natural part of our speech processes ...

The applications of this discovery are exciting. On the surface level, it can act as a sort of Truth Detector as Reverse Speech will usually correct the inconsistencies of forward speech. If a lie is spoken forwards, the truth may be communicated in reverse.

I remember hearing this some years ago on Talk Radio (no Talk Sport) in the UK (I think it was on Caesar the Geezer's show before he got the boot for taking the P out of some politician or other). It was late at night and to hear Col. Gadaffi speaking of Nuclear Hadj and then the hill (which I assume meant the hill of Meggido - Armageddon) sent a shiver down my spine

I remember hearing of a case last year where a large supermarket was fined by the courts for use of subliminal advertising within the store to help sell goods. Can anyone else recall this?

They Live is an excellent movie, worth a checkout.

There are tons of subliminal advertising, all over. Some of it's very blatant - commercials use women to appeal to men to get them to buy their product.

In the 80's, I think it was Iron Maiden that got sued because 2 boys thought one of their songs told them to kill themselves.

Subliminal messages are everywhere, you just have to look

Who said my name?

I believe they've been doing it for years and on a much larger and deeper scale than we realise. I mean seriously, not that many people can be intentionally ignorant and stupid.

interesting i liek some of the bush once and if i was a conspiritor i would say hes reverse speech has some innuendoes of a NWO

Originally posted by ThePook
It appears that these messages can be included in a host of media as a means to 'program' people to purchase the item in question, or to perform a particular action - such as not to steal (Certain stores, such as K-Mart use this form of subliminal programming).

Yeah and the music they put in these stores... that super light jazz... maybe some subliminal frequencies in it.. it's weird 'cause i tried to find one of those cd's once for home listening.. i never found .. I guess i'll ask the boss next time..

it was judas priest as i remember it. subliminal advertising scares the # out of me. i get the occasional insane craving for certain foods or other products. i think the us govt. would be wasting a potentially very useful tool if they didn't utilize subliminal advertising (or other subliminal messages) to further the nations agenda.

you know i remember reading somewhere that for every dollar spent in the usa, 7.5 cents goes to walmart. maybe subliminal advertising is their secret

[Edited on 5-1-2004 by dunkleskates]

Hi all,
I will chime in at Elevatedone's request. Here is what snopes.com has to say about it. Thought you might find it interesting.

www.snopes.com...

-P

Isn't subliminal messaging illegal?

yes subliminal imaging is illegal, but the problem is, alot of it is "coincedence". uhhhhhhuuuhhhhhh.

also, there are hidden voice recordings in certain movies that can barely be heard when played at normal volumes, only the subconscience recognizes it.

Example 1: watch the disney version of aladdin. during the scene where aladdin is on his carpet on the princesses balcony (when he convinces her to go on a carpet ride with her) i think the recording starts when the tiger growls, turn up the volume VERY LOUDLY. you will hear: down kitty (or something like that), then, take off your clothes.

Example 2: watch Warner Brothers Harry Potter and the Sorcerers stone. In the scene where harry is leaving the hospital wing and ron and hermione are talking on the balcony above him (its near the end of the movie) turn up the volume again. you will hear, I got an erection!

Example 3: Look at a bottle of Vanilla Coke. inbetween the two times it says, "vanilla coke" look at the two curves. (they have the red and weird vanilla colors switching off, like on a chess board). outline these two curves with a sharpie or something. now, tip the can upside-down. what do they look like? breasts.

Example 4: Look at diet coke cans. On the bottom there is a curved bottle with what appears to be fizz rising up, and two swirls at the top. now, look at the two swirls again. what do they look like? breasts. if you look at the swirls AND the bubbles, you have a males penis.

Example 5: Watch disneys, The little mermaid. when the preist is talking and the octopus girl and guy are in the aisle. look at the guys pants below the stand. an erection. also, look at the cover. somewhere in the middle there is an image of a penis.

I personally find it sick that these sublimals are inserted into CHILDHOOD movies. its as if they want to sell them into pornography before they can make a choice! well, thats all for now with me.

[Edited on 3-4-2004 by aggroskater]

[Edited on 4-4-2004 by aggroskater]

Hi all, firstly I can't think how reverse messaging could have an effect on us? unless you actually played it in reverse which we just would'nt do anyway!? And if you do play things in reverse alot of it is gibberish but you do get the odd words that make sense, pure coincidence I believe.

Although I fully accept that subliminal messaging in the form of images are present in most adverts for products etc......thanks for reading.