Forget the Internet - soon there will be the OUTERNET: Company plans to beam free Wi-fi to every per

All of you are talking about this on and on about arguments about availability, cost, etc etc...

HAVE YOU ALL GONE MAD?!!

Listen, we have nooooo idea about the repercussions of using this technology and now they want to FORCE IT to EVERYONE at a grand scale?
No, this doesn't make sense.

I'm already having instant and painful feelings of burning in my brain every time I'm stuck holding my cell phone close to my head or when ever I'm near a wifi router and their ever growing list of receiving devices which could very well be wired.

There is something not right with Wifi technology, it's just too much MORE than simple radio-waves.

What's so damn complicated about having internet outlets in houses, it's something that should have became the norm with it's higher speeds, enhanced security, no health repercussions and is also extremely cheap...

Like the stupid apes we are, always centered on making the biggest, fastest profit ever, we had to implement has a norm a weaker, less efficient technology that MIGHT be damaging to our health (probably is) just for the sake of "simplicity of use"...really??

Wake up, this just isn't right.

I'm am not saying no to free internet, I am actually mostly for the idea...but not this way...please.

theMediator
All of you are talking about this on and on about arguments about availability, cost, etc etc...

HAVE YOU ALL GONE MAD?!!

It should be pretty obvious that it's not literally wi-fi.

I'm already having instant and painful feelings of burning in my brain every time I'm stuck holding my cell phone close to my head or when ever I'm near a wifi router and their ever growing list of receiving devices which could very well be wired.

So...you get "a burning feeling"...from receivers?

There is something not right with Wifi technology, it's just too much MORE than simple radio-waves.

No, no that's pretty much it. It's radio.

Radio's been around for more than a century. It's bombarding you right now. Your own body emits microwaves, albeit at a low level.

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With apologies to George Orwell:
War is Peace,
Freedom is Slavery,
Ignorance is Strength,
There is just too much Big Brother in the idea.

That, or the Cybermen are on the way.
We need The Doctor!

Sounds too good to be true .. Remember boys and girls NOTHING in this world is free .

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Sounds like you are coming down with a bad case of the hypochondrias. It's a good thing you let us know, now we can nip this problem in the butt. I suggest taking two placebos every two hours and call me in the morning.

Sounds good in theory, interested to see how it plays out. However, there's facing megacorps. Just as of recent Comcast bought Time Warner Cable for $45 billion dollars. Can't have that freedom of information going around and for free?!? Corrupt entities, from countries to corporations, won't stand for it!

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bits=$

its very simple. the value is in your information that they carry.

In the 90's we had "freenets", you dial up to their server and *poof* free internet. Then it was crushed. Source.

In the 2000's Minneapolis proposed a free wifi system city wide. Then we all watched as they placed the routers every few blocks, got all excited... and it was crushed (you had to pay). Related Source.

The only way to have free internet is to set up all cellular devices to broadcast as mobile hotspots and write a program that hops your devices from hotspot to hotspot seamlessly, literally every few feet if you're moving... constantly switching if you're not moving. It can be done... but it won't under the current system [at least in the US where companies are rewriting policies to ban tethering and similar usage that would make this possible].

While I am all for this, I don't see it happening.

As others have posted, there is too much of an industry at stake, no company that provides internet is going to just lay down and let this happen, and those are some BIG and powerful companies, with a lot of political pull.

Satellite TV started out free .

Satellite internet is garbage as it is with a dish, receiver and a billion dollar satellite in space. A tiny little piece of junk floating 100 miles above the Earth isn't going to provide anyone anything. Who's going to pay when one of these crashes through someones roof?

Hey! Did you all hear everything you do and everywhere you go is being tracked by your phone? Every time you walk past a hotspot it's pinged by your phone allowing companies to track everywhere you go...

Do you think this might some how, maybe, have a little something to do with that... Maybe? Huh? Maybe so you could be tracked everywhere, all the time? Huh? Maybe?

Oh no, I'm being silly... It's so everyone can have free access to the ever special internet and their Facebook

This is why we cannot have nice things!

I think that the idea is great. I have long thought that in order for our species to really benefit from mobile telecoms technology, the mobile aspects of its use should be made either free, or cheaper than cheap. They are not, at present.

The reason that this is important, is that the free sharing of ideas, availability of research to those who would otherwise be unable to access information when they need it, should have benefits to all of us. It would make monitoring of unfolding world events far more immediate, it would give everyone the ability to record events and stream them to the web, it would make lies told by governments and companies immediately subject to scrutiny, all over the planet. It would also mean that more people can communicate with the world.

Therein lies the future of mankind. However, if this new network is going to be subject to the same injustices as the existing internet, then the whole possibility takes on more sinister aspect, given the abuses of informational structures which are already occurring in the wider web. Two steps forward, three steps back!

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Free? Sure. Free access to even more people's private data. Don't forget that if a service or product given to you is free, than you are the product being sold! YOU are the data to be collected! More internet for more people equals more collectible sms, e-mail, GPS location and so on.... Don't let the doublespeak trick you. NOTHING is free in this world.

SecretKnowledge
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First of all, its the Daily Mail.
Then it claims this:

An ambitious project known as Outernet is aiming to launch hundreds of miniature satellites into low Earth orbit by June 2015

Which is only next year
Then it says this:

The group is hoping to raise tens of millions of dollars in donations to get the project on the road.

Which means its going to take a lot more than 12 months.
its a great idea, but methinks its all pie in the sky...

Yes, $10,000 per pound launch fee, what does each satellite weigh? just how many are needed? what is the 'shelf' life? I bet some government has a laser powerful enough to knock them down.

xizd1
If this project found a way to get off the ground and be fully implemented, how would that affect us as a global community?
Giving third world counties access to info about health, clean water, modern farming methods and world events would surely have a profound effect on all of us.
What might some of these implications be?

I don't think it would be priced at the rate that the average third world person could afford.

An existing example is the Iridium satellite network, which was a network of satellites that would communicate directly with each other rather than having signals bounced down to a switching station on Earth. Their advantage was that the satellites would work anywhere on the globe, the disadvantage was the price of phone set rental. The original company went bust, and the satellites were about to burn up in orbit, when venture capitalists offered to buy the network at bargain bin price. They then leased out handsets to rescue and aid agencies.

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Everyone's getting a little too excited... from the article:

Much like how you receive a signal on your television and flick through channels, Outernet will broadcast the Internet to you and allow you to flick through certain websites.

It really won't be the whole Internet - just a few select sites. This isn't going to crush Verizon, but it may be a useful way to get propaganda into countries that are desperately trying to filter it out.

Aleister
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Would be nice. And it just makes sense that everyone should have free net, it seems to be more of a right than a consumer product now.

I see the internet as a utility along the lines of electricity or sewage. People have to pay for those, but people also need them. The same can be said for the internet.

Thanks to the net, mankind's knowledge, indeed the 'world's' knowledge lies at our fingertips. Literally. From the primordial start to this very moment. Alas, the resource has, for the most part, been squandered. The average dolt uses the net as a TV, a mind-numbing drug. (I'll state for the record, here and now, that I've never used the net to view porn, play mindless games, download music, read some dumb-ass blog or surf YouTube for 6 hours)

The bringing about of this proposed 'outernet' will just mean more dummies numbing their already underused brains with the pop culture horsecrap dujour. It will be The Kardashians to the Nth power.

What we Googa

guess no one has ever heard of companies like freedom pop?

free internet. you pay for the box (one time fee as in you own it, like buying a tv to catch airwaves) that works of off cell phone frequencies. monthly bandwidth is limited to a 1 or 2 gb, i forget, but if you want more than that you can pay for it at a low cost.