BREAKING: Maryland Legislators Move To Kill NSA Headquarters

Good on that and interesting to see how this as well as other restrictions states are putting forth to the NSA.

I know the many cynical ones don't see it as something but hey you did ask for something to be done, or at least some did others said don't bother because "Nothing will amount of it". Many wrote locally about the concerns against the NSA, is this not a step in action? What your seeing is answering of the people's concerns. I just fail to see it 100 percent self serving to those taking the effort to make these moves. Take that as you will but what are you doing? It's more of a step then per se sensationalism or trying but forgotten. It's only downhill from here anyway...as it always has been, nothing to lose.
Otherwise I guess they just want to: "Reel the "anti establishment types" out to trap them then when they complain." Or "Make it so commonly known people just don't care anymore".

/off rant

marg6043

AnAbsoluteCreation
This cannot end well. How many billions have went I to the NSA infrastructure in last two decades?

Will they really give that up?

My tin foil hat tells me no.

AAC

Well the bigger question is how will the private interest that is behind the corruption now call NSA will be willing to give up, remember that the NSA once it went privatized with government contracts is not really run solely by the US government, that is why it has gone out of control.

I imagine that the fat wallets feeding the fat pockets in congress will start working on legislation on how to penalize any state that goes against the corporate power running the government and the NSA.

But it seems that states are starting to see how angry the public is about how corrupted the NSA has become and asking for something to be done.

All the individual states have to do, if they can all get on the same page, is withhold federal tax payments, or simply make them illegal and starve the beast. The entire corrupt federal machine then comes to a grinding halt along with their handlers in the FED and other less visible organizations.

Cheers - Dave

Touché.

A state like California (if they were solvent) could easily afford to stiff the government. At which point does the government flex more than sanction muscle to get the states to fall in line.

If the government did threaten them and the state said... Do something about it. An unexpected attack strips everyone's attention and refocuses it on terror and our need to beat it with more security.

Either way, nothing uneventful will come from this.

AAC.

Poor old nsa just cant catch a break.
Damn thats a nice building in that pic there. Geesh look at the parking lot.

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They should have seen this coming, huh? Or at least heard it coming?

AAC

As a college student born, raised, and attending school in Maryland while pursuing a Computer Science / Cyber Security degree, this is bad.

If I read it correctly, this means no internships, which leads to one less place to get experience in the field. I know people who work with the NSA, and they aren't bad people. It may be corrupt as a whole, but I'm very much against this bill. There are other ways to go about dealing with the NSA besides this.

Cyn50
As a college student born, raised, and attending school in Maryland while pursuing a Computer Science / Cyber Security degree, this is bad.

If I read it correctly, this means no internships, which leads to one less place to get experience in the field. I know people who work with the NSA, and they aren't bad people. It may be corrupt as a whole, but I'm very much against this bill. There are other ways to go about dealing with the NSA besides this.

How unbelievably selfish does that sound?

Very.

No. Don't explain.

AAC.

How unbelievably selfish does that sound?

Very.

No. Don't explain.

AAC.

Yes, how very selfish of me to worry about my future. My apologies

Cyn50

How unbelievably selfish does that sound?

Very.

No. Don't explain.

AAC.

Yes, how very selfish of me to worry about my future. My apologies

Yes. At the expense of everyone else's liberties. Yes. Selfish.

AAC

If even somthing goes wrong with this the will of the people is made quite clear however, im worried that this will just drive the NSA underground, you cant be mad at stuff you cant even see. Look at area 51.

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I'm glad to see states are standing up ..if that is what we're seeing. So far, it's some..not all, just some..lawmakers in one state and what they're after is almost doomed to failure as if that's the point for nothing but P.R. points to be seen fighting, with no real chance of upsetting any apple carts. Like I said earlier, shutting off the Fort Meade facility would be like shutting off the Pentagon. (probably MORE damaging, actually). Obama wouldn't allow it to happen, no matter what.


These states better be ready for what is coming at them and it won't be so kind as to stand for a head on fight. Missouri outlawed cooperation with REAL ID. Totally. Entirely. No damned QUESTION. We didn't even, by our own law, allow the EQUIPMENT into this state. What do we find??? Our License Bureau with the blessings of our Governor worked a back channel deal to directly circumvent Missouri state law and backdoor the whole system in on us. Now? We have REAL ID whether we liked it or not. The law we passed?? Bahh... no one cared or even paused in their deceit to bypass the will of the people. Get ready for that. It's coming.

Missouri has OUTRIGHT passed a Constitutional Amendment (not just law) outlawing *ANY* cooperation with Obamacare/ACA Exchanges on any level, whatsoever. It also blocked any expansion of our Medi- programs 100%, out of the ACA. Obama has flat told us that it doesn't matter, because he doesn't care. It'll be done for us, over TOP of us if necessary, but it'll be done and our Constitution be damned. He doesn't care. Our Governor has also told the Statehouse that not expanding the Medi- Programs "is not an option"......as if we were 'just kidding' when that Constitutional Amendment was passed in 2012.

....Umm.. Missouri wasn't 'just kidding' ...but Obama and the Feds DO NOT CARE what our state or any other state does or says. That is crystal clear. So...I'm not going to celebrate another state "standing up". Over 20 states have already done that and been down this path with the ACA, and a fair number on firearms. Nothing new here...and it's going ALL THE WAY that'll impress me now. Anything short? Well, Obama has already met and defeated that resistance by ANY means his people had to use to achieve it.

We don't live in a nation based on law anymore. We live in a nation that uses law to achieve unlawful end result. It's a travesty...but new laws passed by states won't even slow it down. It's been tried. Repeatedly. (see above)

Legislators booting one of the state's largest employers? That takes... let's call it guts. I wonder how they plan to fix the unemployment and loss of revenue this bill will create?

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Good Post. Not sure how far this will fly though. Hope it succeeds. Now,
I'm sure there are more People involved with this movement, but for the ones listed, I'm a bit concerned for them, and their Famalies.?
At Benswann . Com We see these names mentioned.
Tenth Amendment Center
Executive Director Michael Boldin
Sen. Campfield and Rep. Holt, Maryland and Tennessee Legislaters and then from the Header of HOUSE BILL 1074
E2 EMERGENCY BILL By:
Delegates Smigiel, Dwyer, Glass, Kipke, McComas, McDermott, Parrott, and Serafini, these names.
I'll try to keep an eye out for " Accidents " involving any of these People. I would Bet that there will be some kind of 'Accidents' with them, probably soon too. Syx.

DJW001
Legislators booting one of the state's largest employers? That takes... let's call it guts. I wonder how they plan to fix the unemployment and loss of revenue this bill will create?

Great question. It further supports the will of the people to weigh the gravity of the situation... and STILL do the right thing.

AAC

I can't believe how gullible ATSers can be. Anyone can post garbage and you all buy into it.

This needs to be moved to the HOAX section.

Wrabbit2000
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Thats what I mean. Those orders first came under Eisenhower, I believe, and have been updated and renewed since. Utilities can be federalized in whole or in part (I'll bet clever lawyers could define part as a few customer accounts, in fact) in support of essential national security. If push comes to shove, the methods of shoving were allowed to go into place long ago, thinking it would be a time of war thing.

I suspect they will immediately fall afoul of FERC and the Federal Power Act. It's a nice bit of showmanship, though.

I agree with the poster expressing concern for these lawmakers.

I expect soon, if not already, we will begin to see the Federal Government make examples of dissenters.

Suicide by nail gun, or whatever.

nixie_nox
This needs to be moved to the HOAX section.

Possibly. The blog post has gone viral, but the only mainstream source quoting it is Fox News. If the story is true, it is little more than a publicity stunt by some local pols trying to get some street cred for a civil liberties stand.

DJW001

nixie_nox
This needs to be moved to the HOAX section.

Possibly. The blog post has gone viral, but the only mainstream source quoting it is Fox News. If the story is true, it is little more than a publicity stunt by some local pols trying to get some street cred for a civil liberties stand.

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Its a damn shame that our system has gotten to the point where we immediately think "hoax" when we hear a bit of positive news.