Writing a Book on America, based in a future 20 years after TEA Party Landslide

NoRulesAllowed
that's a book I surely would like to read : )

But I am afraid we're not even so far away from "SciFi". I just read a couple weeks ago in a study that TODAY, a huge percentage of 30% believe in the Bible literally...mind you LITERALLY...and an even higher percentage (like 40% -50%) believes in the Bible although not quite literally.

Don't get me wrong...it's not that I write this to rant about the religious since IMO people have the right to believe whatever they want...but what this means is that a HUGE percentage of Americans today are basically rejecting science...and that a third would reject basic things like the age of the Earth, evolution, etc..etc...things which are basic science.

So..from that POV your nightmare scenario of a religious/crazed society like in the MiddleAges is not that far off. American society DOES have the potential. Of course, it would then ALSO create a huge split between the many religious and scientists and those remaining who do NOT share those views.

(According to the statistics, those who believe the Bible literally are less educated, for instance).

So..your book could ALSO cover a split of the "average people" who become crazy religious fanatics and how all science etc. is abandoned, scientists and basically all technological advancement comes to a halt and those higher educated people fleeing to other countries. With all the ramifications....interesting idea.

How does believing in the Bible automatically equate to wanting to create a theocracy? That's a heck of a logical leap. Consider that but a few generations ago, much less at the time of the nation's founding, much greater percentage believed in the Bible and took it literally, but we didn't become a theocracy then, did we?

Gryphon66
Eliminate all Federal subsidies to the States immediately; let each rise and fall according to its own resources.

Eliminate all Federal subsidies to oil companies immediately; let the price of fuel reach its own balanced level.

Eliminate the Constitutionally-illegal standing Army and Air Force, close all military bases world-wide, and bring over a million servicemen and women home from foreign wars and deployment.

Eliminate the Social Security Administration, Centers for Disease Control, the Food and Drug Administration, National Oceanic & Atmospheric Association, Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, etc. etc. Close the Federal Reserve.

Now,

Revel in the hellscape where the basic infrastructures of everyday life that Americans have come to depend on fall apart within six months, where all fuel oils are far too expensive for any but the richest to afford, where there are over a million folks immediately out of work, most of whom possess a high level of combat training, weapons skills, munitions expertise, etc., where 63 million people now have no income to speak of, where there is no unified response to disease outbreaks, where food quality is whatever people will buy, where there are no more weather reports, where every local airport coordinates all flights on their own, where the financial system disappears, banks fail, billions in personal wealth simply vanish overnight ...

But hey, the budget is balanced now, right?

No New Taxes, woohoo!

edit on 0Sat, 18 Jan 2014 00:16:24 -060014p122014166 by Gryphon66 because: Stuff

^ This.

I think some Americans dont know what they are wishing for

xuenchen
Sounds like economic prosperity and restoration of freedoms.

repeal of most laws.

2.5% unemployment rate.

Low taxes.

minimum imports.

low insurance rates.

much much more.

Not to mention the return of Jim Crow laws putting the gays back into the closet and making the people slaves to the companies they work for. This is what they are saying when they scream from their rascal scooters we want to take America back to the way it was a hundred years ago.

buster2010

xuenchen
Sounds like economic prosperity and restoration of freedoms.

repeal of most laws.

2.5% unemployment rate.

Low taxes.

minimum imports.

low insurance rates.

much much more.

Not to mention the return of Jim Crow laws putting the gays back into the closet and making the people slaves to the companies they work for. This is what they are saying when they scream from their rascal scooters we want to take America back to the way it was a hundred years ago.

Uh...yeah...not quite. Limited governmental interference and regulation does not slavery and prejudice make. Neither it is anarchy. You guys act like if you didn't get free stuff from the government, you'd become either bums or Somali warlords.

I'm a bit confused because the left wants so many, conflicting things. They want to regulate business to death so that they move away to a more business friendly environment and then bitch when they move away because of the governmental regulations and taxation that they wanted implemented in the first place.

reply to post by babybunnies


U should include in there that the Tea Party nationalizes the Federal Reserves and gives the power to print money back to the Treasury, then all debt is paid and we have endless money for social welfare programs and anything else we need without the need for loans from Private banks and China.

That is the main objective that the TEA PARTY started on. All other distractions like the religious aspects came later and were pushed by the Democrats to target religious people who later joined the movement to scared people and masked the true meaning of the movement. U do know there are liberals and libertarians in the Tea Party too?

I would also add that the Rotherchilds, Rockerfeller, bank of England, and Vatician would be upset that America has taken back it's monetary powers and they enact financial wars on the Tea Party and America.

This is the story line u should write about. Otherwise, u would be misrepresenting the whole meaning behind the movement and depicting the propaganda that the establishment wants u to believe in.

NavyDoc
You guys act like if you didn't get free stuff from the government, you'd become either bums or Somali warlords.

Actually you bring up a good point.

The OP is setting their book 20 years after the Tea Party Taliban had taken over.

So with 20 years of deregulation the entire water table of the USA would be contaminated and unusable.

The Corporate Masters would have fled the Country leaving behind the remnants of their privatized Police forces.

These of course would evolve into Militias led by Warlords all fighting over any left over usable resources.

reply to post by BritofTexas


U do know the oil, biotech, pharma, and energy corp executives currently occupy positions like Deputy Chief and Czars of the FDA and EPA right? So already the corps have control of the regulatory agencies. Regulations are only there to control their competition. Deregulation would actually enable competition instead of regulating small business to create monopolizes for their friendly corps.

babybunnies

starwarsisreal
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Hmmmm what about a Christian Theocracy? There are some elements within the Tea Party that wanted to have a government run by "God."

Yup, that's what I'm starting with, a Christian Theocracy taken to the extreme, with religious police, the whole gambit.

LMAO, like the zealous global warming believers saying anyone who doesn't follow the church of warming should be burned at the stake?

starwarsisreal
reply to post by babybunnies

 

Hmmmm what about a Christian Theocracy? There are some elements within the Tea Party that wanted to have a government run by "God."

Where's your reference to support such a claim? I'll base the merit of the statement on the merit of the source.

BritofTexas

NavyDoc
You guys act like if you didn't get free stuff from the government, you'd become either bums or Somali warlords.

Actually you bring up a good point.

The OP is setting their book 20 years after the Tea Party Taliban had taken over.

So with 20 years of deregulation the entire water table of the USA would be contaminated and unusable.

The Corporate Masters would have fled the Country leaving behind the remnants of their privatized Police forces.

These of course would evolve into Militias led by Warlords all fighting over any left over usable resources.

Right, the only thing keeping the evil business in check is the all good and all knowing government.

How about 20 years after a small government landslide, the more likely economic freedom and upswell changes the morass that generations of failed progressive policies gave us.

Are the TEA folks really synonymous with churchy folks?

I've never made the connection myself. Of course I don't encounter many churchy people in real life regardless of politics.

Where are you living that you're constantly berated by biblephiles?

Now if you consider politics as evangelical then, sure, I encounter preachy politicians all day long trying to tell me what I should and should not do, what I can and cannot own, what I can and cannot consume, etc...

As far as I can tell it has nothing to do with religion. Just a bunch of people who want to control my life.

I don't think God inspired, NSA snooping, prohibition or gun bans or "free-speech" zones or banning large sodas.

The way I see it harping on God or churchy people is neglecting to see the real culprit.

But I guess some people are just born with a distaste for churchy people. Maybe they hated playing dress-up on Sundays or their totalitarian parents used God as an excuse to keep rap music out of the house or whatever but nine times out of ten this focus is rooted in some personal or familial conflict.

You want to be anti-authoritarian? That's great! Religion is just a tool. It can be used to promote tyranny or liberty.

If you spend your time attacking the tool you wont make a difference. If by some extremely unlikely stroke of good luck you get that tool removed there is always another tool that will be used.

NavyDoc

buster2010

xuenchen
Sounds like economic prosperity and restoration of freedoms.

repeal of most laws.

2.5% unemployment rate.

Low taxes.

minimum imports.

low insurance rates.

much much more.

Not to mention the return of Jim Crow laws putting the gays back into the closet and making the people slaves to the companies they work for. This is what they are saying when they scream from their rascal scooters we want to take America back to the way it was a hundred years ago.

Uh...yeah...not quite. Limited governmental interference and regulation does not slavery and prejudice make. Neither it is anarchy. You guys act like if you didn't get free stuff from the government, you'd become either bums or Somali warlords.

I'm a bit confused because the left wants so many, conflicting things. They want to regulate business to death so that they move away to a more business friendly environment and then bitch when they move away because of the governmental regulations and taxation that they wanted implemented in the first place.

edit on 21-1-2014 by NavyDoc because: (no reason given)

Maybe the reason you are confused is because your knowledge of history needs a little refreshing. Taxes back then were way higher than they are now so the limited taxation is a joke. And the business environment is better now than it has ever been just look at wall street they are making more money now than ever. So the regulating companies to death is a joke. If you look at the laws when it came to workers back then you will see that employees had virtually no rights and if you have no rights then you are no better than a slave. When workers were protesting the companies the President had to send in the National Guard to give them protection from the thugs that the companies had hired.

When the TP was under Ron Paul it was a good movement and I was happy to be a member but it went bad when the Koch brothers took it over and made it into just another tool for the wealthy to use to get what they want politically.

reply to post by babybunnies

I'm frightening myself with what the world will look like. Basically, I extrapolated that through gerrymandering and pure brainwashing through the media, the TEA Party, after two terms of Barack and two terms of Hillary, come to power in a massive landslide, and are able to enact all their policies as law.

This is truly a work of fiction because anyone who is paying attention knows the country as we know it won’t even exist after 8 years of Obama followed by 8 years of Hillary. No party or group would stand a chance at restoring America at that point; the country will be too far gone.

buster2010
When the TP was under Ron Paul it was a good movement and I was happy to be a member...

Your misunderstanding of the TEA Party movement is made clear by that statement alone. The TEA Party has never had any official structure or leadership. It's a true grass-roots movement composed of varying demographics, with the common belief that fiscal responsibility should be a priority. In fact, that's virtually all that TEA Partiers have in common.

You see, Buster, typical TEA Party "members" do not look to others for a template of ideology. Unlike progressives, who generally agree with one another on any issue, TEA party types unite over taxes, spending, and regulation but hold differing opinions on social, political, and economic issues.

You could say this is because TEA Partiers are more independent, free-thinking people. Or you could say it is because progressives are the sheeples' party. Either way, I would agree with you.

Well it sounds like your story is based about 30 years from now.

I think an accurate depiction of the planet Earth at that time is found in the movie The Book of Eli.

Unfortunately, I think that's where we're headed regardless of what political faction comes to power.

I'm rather pessimistic about the future...


Dex

buster2010

NavyDoc

buster2010

xuenchen
Sounds like economic prosperity and restoration of freedoms.

repeal of most laws.

2.5% unemployment rate.

Low taxes.

minimum imports.

low insurance rates.

much much more.

Not to mention the return of Jim Crow laws putting the gays back into the closet and making the people slaves to the companies they work for. This is what they are saying when they scream from their rascal scooters we want to take America back to the way it was a hundred years ago.

Uh...yeah...not quite. Limited governmental interference and regulation does not slavery and prejudice make. Neither it is anarchy. You guys act like if you didn't get free stuff from the government, you'd become either bums or Somali warlords.

I'm a bit confused because the left wants so many, conflicting things. They want to regulate business to death so that they move away to a more business friendly environment and then bitch when they move away because of the governmental regulations and taxation that they wanted implemented in the first place.

edit on 21-1-2014 by NavyDoc because: (no reason given)

Maybe the reason you are confused is because your knowledge of history needs a little refreshing. Taxes back then were way higher than they are now so the limited taxation is a joke. And the business environment is better now than it has ever been just look at wall street they are making more money now than ever. So the regulating companies to death is a joke. If you look at the laws when it came to workers back then you will see that employees had virtually no rights and if you have no rights then you are no better than a slave. When workers were protesting the companies the President had to send in the National Guard to give them protection from the thugs that the companies had hired.

When the TP was under Ron Paul it was a good movement and I was happy to be a member but it went bad when the Koch brothers took it over and made it into just another tool for the wealthy to use to get what they want politically.

edit on 21-1-2014 by buster2010 because: (no reason given)

"Tea Party under Ron Paul" and you say I have a lack of historical knowledge?

Taxes where way higher when? Income tax did not exist until 1913 after ratification of the 16th amendment. Are you relying on the leftist myth that we did better economically with a super high tax rate back in the 1940's and 1950's? Of course you neglect to understand that since we were the only man standing after WWII we prospered as a nation for well into the 1960's based on the fact that we were the only industrialized nation not blown to crap during the war. You also (perhaps you are too young to realize this) that the top rate may have been 90% on the few theoretical people that had income at that rate but the actual income ax was much lower due to numerous deductions and tax shelters that accountant could use to drop that 90% rate to a 25% payment. These "loopholes" are now gone so that at the upper incomes , rates are much closer to actual payments. I challenge you to find people who actually paid 90% income tax during that time period.

Want to know how I know you don't own or run a business? Regulation: EPA, OSHA, EPA, EEOC, FDA, and numerous bureaucracies and alphabet agencies do make business hard and more expensive. Start-ups are much more difficult than they need be. Yes, regulating business to death is not a joke and quite real. Large corporations can deal with the regulatory burden but smaller guys quite often get choked out as they start. Our system is quite unfriendly to business unless the business is big enough to hire the lawyers and lobbyists they need to handle big government.

And the thugs companies hired protected the property of the company from destructive Marxist unionists. There was some crap on both sides the early labor debate and no one can claim the other side was the only wrong doer. Of course now we have big government ot save us and they are doing such a bang up job, aren't they?

Now, getting back to your lie about the Tea Party wanting to bring back Jim Crow laws...please cite a credible source.

After 20 years:

1. Within a 10 years of the landslide victory congress approves exporting toxic/nuclear waste to military bases around the world for storage, a lack of funding from the dwindling tax rate insures this program is underfunded. In the US the environment has been poisoned, birth rates fall dramatically and a rise in birth defects. Corporations have polluted the air, ground water, and everything else in the name of jobs, profit, and so called prosperity, but the birth rates have plunged to record lows. A child born healthy is uncommon as the population declines. A Unified Africa approves a grant to clean up North America, South America launches a grant program through the UN to assist countries to clean up toxic former US Military bases in counties around the globe. 95% of countries have closed US military bases around the globe because of the pollution stored there and lack of funds to store properly. The US is accused of violating the agreements that allow these bases in foreign country's.

2. 2 decades of ever shrinking taxes for the wealthy have lead to failure in our roads, and bridges and most other infrastructure. Plane crashes and railroad crashes and bridge failures are a common occurrence, the food supply is a mess of toxins and food borne illness as the usda and other inspections and inspectors have been eliminated to save money.

3. Fox News is changed to "The only source of news" All news agencies from newspapers to cable news is nationalized and only government approved news events are offered. The internet is transformed from what you know to only offering a handful of government approved websites with 75% of these being religious orientated.

4. Dissent is outlawed and free speech is redefined and our prison system is transformed into a mass industrial prison slave labor center in every state, the unemployment rate includes all these prison jobs.

5. Vermont succession from the states, then several other North Eastern States follow suit, with the help of Russia and China Radio free America starts broadcasting. To stop the flood of Americans flocking to North Eastern States a huge wall is built by prison labor groups. Modern day underground railroads start funneling people into Canada then to The NE States.

6. Decay abounds, shifting the tax burden to the lower classes leads to defunding of Americas military machine, this leads to the failure in Americas attempt to annex Canada.

7. Child labor is reintroduced, giving kids the Right to work, schools are defunded.

ok I have thought about this topic enough

reply to post by NavyDoc


I think Nixon lowered the wealthiest tax rate to 55% from 75% funny how prosperous we were with higher taxes.

OpenMindedRealist
Your misunderstanding of the TEA Party movement is made clear by that statement alone. The TEA Party has never had any official structure or leadership. It's a true grass-roots movement composed of varying demographics, with the common belief that fiscal responsibility should be a priority. In fact, that's virtually all that TEA Partiers have in common.

Nope.

The Tea Party is pure Astro Turf.

It was started by Citizens for a Sound Economy in or before 2002 and is funded by the Koch Brothers.



How the Koch Bros and Big Tobacco started the Tea Party

LDragonFire
After 20 years:

1. Within a 10 years of the landslide victory congress approves exporting toxic/nuclear waste to military bases around the world for storage, a lack of funding from the dwindling tax rate insures this program is underfunded. In the US the environment has been poisoned, birth rates fall dramatically and a rise in birth defects. Corporations have polluted the air, ground water, and everything else in the name of jobs, profit, and so called prosperity, but the birth rates have plunged to record lows. A child born healthy is uncommon as the population declines. A Unified Africa approves a grant to clean up North America, South America launches a grant program through the UN to assist countries to clean up toxic former US Military bases in counties around the globe. 95% of countries have closed US military bases around the globe because of the pollution stored there and lack of funds to store properly. The US is accused of violating the agreements that allow these bases in foreign country's.

2. 2 decades of ever shrinking taxes for the wealthy have lead to failure in our roads, and bridges and most other infrastructure. Plane crashes and railroad crashes and bridge failures are a common occurrence, the food supply is a mess of toxins and food borne illness as the usda and other inspections and inspectors have been eliminated to save money.

3. Fox News is changed to "The only source of news" All news agencies from newspapers to cable news is nationalized and only government approved news events are offered. The internet is transformed from what you know to only offering a handful of government approved websites with 75% of these being religious orientated.

4. Dissent is outlawed and free speech is redefined and our prison system is transformed into a mass industrial prison slave labor center in every state, the unemployment rate includes all these prison jobs.

5. Vermont succession from the states, then several other North Eastern States follow suit, with the help of Russia and China Radio free America starts broadcasting. To stop the flood of Americans flocking to North Eastern States a huge wall is built by prison labor groups. Modern day underground railroads start funneling people into Canada then to The NE States.

6. Decay abounds, shifting the tax burden to the lower classes leads to defunding of Americas military machine, this leads to the failure in Americas attempt to annex Canada.

7. Child labor is reintroduced, giving kids the Right to work, schools are defunded.

ok I have thought about this topic enough

edit on 21-1-2014 by LDragonFire because: (no reason given)

So it's going to be a comedy then?