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Mamatus
reply to post by gardener
At the risk of pissing off the entire club of 911 truthers I have to ask just one question. Have you ever before seen what happens when a plane hits a building at 400+mph?
Planes are remarkably fragile........ Slam one into the ground and all you have left is a black scorched spot and some unidentifiable debris.
I am gonna give you a star though as I have not yet seen that video.
Mamatus
reply to post by FirePiston
Physically impossible? Are you freaking kidding me?
Being a commercial pilot I can safely tell you that a plane can break the sound barrier when flying low. a passenger Jet that can fly at altitude at 400mph+ @ 40,000ft. can easily fly in the thicker air down lower.
Look up density altitude and do the calcs yourself. In all honesty that statement was the least defensible of all the "proof" I have seen re: 911. On that note I am done with you and wont bother to respond again. I have a rule, never argue with the unarmed.
GenRadek
I love this game! My turn!
Find the planes that allegedly crashed here:
Video of a C-130 into an apartment. Nope, I see no plane there either.
edit on 1/14/2014 by GenRadek because: Added video and fixed link
tinner07
My younger brother and cousin are both on an urban search and rescue team with a major metro fire dept. Both deployed to the Pentagon on 9/11.
Inside one of the inner rings was a big round hole so it wasnt exactly rectangular everywhere.
Also when inside the main structure looking for survivors/bodies he found a womens shoe and an airplane seat belt and buckle. No body was recovered from that find though. There is a gruesome detail as to why but I will spare you.
diggindirt
Okay, I'm no pilot nor physicist but I mostly believe my lying eyes. If TBTB want to really clear up this question of whether or not a plane hit the pentagon, why oh, why, don't they just release one of the videos they have that shows the actual incident? A relative of mine used to work in the Pentagon and says that as early as the mid-90s the place was ringed with security cameras, not High-Def surely but good enough to see something as big as a plane hitting the building. I've yet to see any video but perhaps I've missed it and someone who is on the "official story" side can present one here just to stop this endless argument?
It has been 12 years and we apparently still don't have the complete story---and while I don't count myself as a "truther" I do have lots of questions about the "official" version of what happened that day.
As one of my favorite late night talk show hosts (Art Bell) said several years ago (and I'm paraphrasing here), I don't wamt to believe that members of our government would do such a horrible thing but big chunks of the official version of the events don't make sense to the logical mind. I believe the examples he used at the time were the absolutely astronomical chances of finding the ID of the hijackers, and reporting of the building collapse before it happened.