Rise of a New World Order (PART 1) 9/11 Conspiracy

Good Morning ATS from the UK.
In November I posted a thread with a trailer for a new documentary by SuspectSky and it's been worth the wait!
November Thread.

In part 1 he deals with the 9/11 conspiracy, here is the description for it:

There are many tragic mysteries surrounding the events of 9/11. Was it a conspiracy by the powers that be to usher in the new millennium according to their NWO agenda? The contradictions of the official report on what happened on 9/11 demand serious attention and answers from our leaders.

In Part 1 of Rise of a New World Order, we examine the bizarre qualities of our government's response to the tragedy. Why was our air defense crippled by war-games involving hijacked airliners being flown into buildings? Why does recently declassified radio transmissions and radar contacts show the "hijacked" planes flying in formation with unknown aircraft? Why does radar show Flight 93 still airborne after it "crashed"? Why is the damage so inconsistent in terms of destructive power between the WTC, Pentagon, and Shanksville crash sites? What is attached to the bottom of the hijacked planes? Why couldn't our air defense call out using the telephones to scramble fighters?

Is it possible our government switched the civilian airliners with remote controlled drone aircraft, before crashing them into their targets? This video presents evidence that seems to indicate that may be what happened, and makes a stunning prediction of where our world is going, and has been going, in the 13 years since 9/11. We cover, in virtually chronological order, the horror of 9/11 unfold, but we do so from the perspective of not just blindly accepting the government's story. ALL of these questions were asked on the very day of 9/11. In the words of the media itself, there were car bombs, van bombs, secondary explosions, implosions, phantom jets, and more - yet through the passage of time, we the American people have simply stopped asking for the truth and demanding answers.

Perhaps it is time to reopen the case.

And I think he has a very valid point, maybe it is time to reopen the case?
Did America really do this to it's people?
Were the airliners switched for drones?
Who could give this order to kill its own people?

It's a very well put together documentary and to be fair, suspectsky never fails to deliver. He said he'd publish it no matter what, and he's a man of his word!

I watched it.

Impressive.




I wonder how many of these people
we can still talk with.


Mike Grouchy

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Hey cool man I'll check out your vid now and comment later thank you for posting otherwise I may not have found this information by chance. SnF I do understand for some this is not so much a popular subject however for me regardless of what camp of mind one sits on the complexity of what had to happen on either side is so immense.

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hmmmm....nothing new..just rehashed and repackaged for people to lap up!!

I am perhaps in the very small minority here who has a mixed opinion (my opinion is NOT necessarily FACT).

1) 19 box-cutter wielding "insert appropriate word" did not commit this crime (at least not without help)

2) The US government did NOT kill their own people at all, I firmly believe it was members of Israel and the Jewish community funded by the Catholic Church in Rome!!

Yes I said it, the Roman Catholic Church (Vatican) funded the Israelis and Jews in this event!

That is all I can say on this particular event without hard FACTS!!

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You're welcome, and give thanks and credit to SuspectSky, i'm just sharing his work, it needs to be shared

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2) The US government did NOT kill their own people at all, I firmly believe it was members of Israel and the Jewish community funded by the Catholic Church in Rome!!

Can I ask whats made you come to this conclusion, when evidence to the contrary suggests otherwise?

The New World Order = enslavement by deception.

Thanks for the thread SBW - that was quite surreal to revisit.

Suspect Sky has done a very good job in putting all of that together.

Some of the radar tracking plots and associated conversation recordings in the first half of the video is new for me.

BUT, nothing changes.

The US was attacked by rogue elements from within, the OS is BS and the events immediately proceeding this day (Patriot act / invasion of Afghanistan) are a clear indication to me as to who orchestrated the whole thing.

The person you see on the TV called "The President of the United States" has about as much control over world events as I do.

Oil, Gas.

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If I like it ill hit the like button for sure it is quite a long bit of info but either way ill leave a comment or a like for sure!

and a military drill the same day to add to the confusion, bush conveniently out of town to let Cheney run the SHOW... And those saying plane must hit steel, just not in that exact way.

As always with the same ambiguity the tired old mussing is rehashed again this time with a new wrapper. It amazes me how people at ATS who like to discuss various theories about slight of hand collisions perpetrated by wickedness and attempts to control their minds, can't see what is right in their face. That being the perpetrated wickedness of slight of hand collisions is being done to them by wasting their time with the same old hopscotch that has been molding for the past 13 years-and the marginalization of present day society that fails to even acknowledge their presents on the entire planet.

The same turd is wrapped in a different wrapper to be polished again and again with the same results.

Sublimecraft
The US was attacked by rogue elements from within, the OS is BS and the events immediately proceeding this day (Patriot act / invasion of Afghanistan) are a clear indication to me as to who orchestrated the whole thing.

The person you see on the TV called "The President of the United States" has about as much control over world events as I do.

Oil, Gas.

Always nice to read common sense.

The "They attacked us because they hate our freedom!" argument never convinced me for a second. That is just ridiculous.

soulwaxer

spooky24
As always with the same ambiguity the tired old mussing is rehashed again this time with a new wrapper. It amazes me how people at ATS who like to discuss various theories about slight of hand collisions perpetrated by wickedness and attempts to control their minds, can't see what is right in their face. That being the perpetrated wickedness of slight of hand collisions is being done to them by wasting their time with the same old hopscotch that has been molding for the past 13 years-and the marginalization of present day society that fails to even acknowledge their presents on the entire planet.

The same turd is wrapped in a different wrapper to be polished again and again with the same results.

Here we are, again and again, suffering the same "I know better than you do" slings and arrows from a turd wrapped in a different wrapper, polished....and yet....we still don't believe what you do. Some of us, much as myself, don't believe a damned thing. It's all too polished and turd-like, as you put it, to be true IMHO. Too neatly wrapped up in a bow. And there isn't a "theory" that I believe. Rather, I simply do not believe the official story. So keep that in mind before you start labeling me as a "believer". I, my friend, am the non-believer.

If you believe the official story, fine. I'm all for it. You have every right to believe the fairy tale our governance wishes us to believe. To me, and to many others here, it simply doesn't stack up.

So, why must you persistently act solely to agitate? Do you think belittling will possibly sway someone's opinions?

skyblueworld
It's a very well put together documentary

Not really. A good portion of the video is based off of long-debunked claims, and therefore shouldn't even have been put into the video in the first place.

The "pod" claim has been debunked for almost a decade. The "pod" isn't even in the same location on the military plane "suspectsky" claims, and the real plane that struck the south tower. There are 43 different angles of the 2nd plane, and not one single video shows anything on the bottom of the fuselage. That means it's just a highlighted wing fairing as indicated in the first link.


As far as the flash just before impact, that was the crew oxygen tank igniting on impact:




In the documentary, you can clearly see the flash coming from the right-hand side of the fuselage up front, just as indicated in the diagram above. No explosives were needed to be planted on the plane to cause the flash.



As far as the other claims in the video that the plane was "not an American Airlines", of course it wasn't. It was a United Airlines. And the reported colors of "grey" or "black" were somewhat correct:




As you can see, United Airlines colors are grey and dark blue. Since the plane was banking to port (left), anyone on the west-side of the towers would have seen mostly grey paint, and anyone on the east-side of the towers would have seen mostly dark blue, which would be almost black in the shadow of smoke.



If the author of the video "suspectsky" cannot do the most simplest of research about information that has been known to everyone for at least the past decade, then he probably shouldn't be producing videos, and can't be taken seriously.

In response to what happened to the people & planes that were reported to have flown into the Twin Towers / Pentagon / Shanksville.......

according to the information revealed on the DVD I saw, called :
"Loose Change; 2nd Edition" -


.........supposedly Cleveland Int'l Airport was shutdown, & there was a forced evacuation, for EVERY individual ( passenger & employee ) - & they had to leave by foot. If I'm not mistaken, according to satellite imagery, the same exact number of people, which had been in all the (?) reported(?) crash sites, exited aircraft at Cleveland Int'l Airport, were escorted into an old abandoned NASA building , at the airport, & NEVER CAME OUT !!!!!!!!!

Review the documentary yourself, & come to your own conclusions;
Please note:
who was in charge of Security, at the Twin Towers
what type of extra insurance, the owner of the Towers took out, weeks before
& then all the different 'Put Options' on the stocks for American / Unite / & Boeing


.........alot more to it.& an Excellent Documentary & Account of Events

I believe the offical story. Some conspiracy theorists are paranoid and a little crazy. The government faked the moon landings, and they probably faked Roswell. They showed up real quick and " covered " everything up. I believe the Goverment tried very hard to orchestrate an alien hoax. I don't think we had anything to do with the towers. I used to read the paper a lot and watch CNN and everything that was going on about the Iraq war and when they got Osama bin Laden seemed legitimate. I don't think "they " were hiding anything. A lot of people died and maybe be a little sensitive talking about the Gov. Doing this.

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ONE OTHER THING I FORGOT TO MENTION ????


The amount of gold that was in the banks, at the bottom of those towers, which apparently had not been covered by the media, or Our Gov't - that was missing "DWARFS" all robberies by Jesse James, Ma Barker, Dillinger, etc.. - COMBINED



yet nobody wants to say anything about that..


Also look up the Carlyle Group -??????/

....an organization that had the Bush & Bin Laden families as PARTNERS, for the last 30 years ??????

& the only thing that could have made the small 16' hole in the pentagon, would have been a Tomahawk Cruise Missile. No damage to the area where 2 6 ton engines would have slammed into the building - & the windows were still in tact where the engines & wings of the plan would have HAD to smash into it.

I don't want to ruin it for all of those who have not seen this documentary. everything from the details of the melting point of Titanium in the engines, to the 'Stand Down' ORDER, by Cheney - IT'S ALL IN THERE !


Don't just believe what I say here, view it yourself- ALL THE PROOF & EVIDENCE, is provided for in the documentary

A tomahawk cruise missile? Who shot it and from where? I was home from school and saw the planes hit the towers. But titanium doesn't burn at that level? The air crafts had jet fuel and exploded and the weight of the towers. I don't think there was shadow ops going on that planted explosives. I don't think they had cameras around the pentagon but probably witnesses. Four planes were hijacked that day, that was just an illusion to hide the truth. The 19 hijackers went to flight school and I heard were sleeper cells for five years, but they didnt know how to fly a plane. The towers were almost attacked in 1991 or 1992 I think by people. Trying to drive a truck filled with stuff to the base of the towers. You people are really reaching for your " theories" and what will they solve if you believe this? It's over ten years and these threads still pop up every day. There is a memorial in my town for someone who died that day. In New York there are people with families, I watched it all happen on TV and after the people with missing papers looking for their families. I live in New York I went up around where it happened awhile later and they wouldn't let anyone get close.

_BoneZ_

skyblueworld
It's a very well put together documentary

Not really. A good portion of the video is based off of long-debunked claims, and therefore shouldn't even have been put into the video in the first place.

The "pod" claim has been debunked for almost a decade. The "pod" isn't even in the same location on the military plane "suspectsky" claims, and the real plane that struck the south tower. There are 43 different angles of the 2nd plane, and not one single video shows anything on the bottom of the fuselage. That means it's just a highlighted wing fairing as indicated in the first link.


As far as the flash just before impact, that was the crew oxygen tank igniting on impact:

In the documentary, you can clearly see the flash coming from the right-hand side of the fuselage up front, just as indicated in the diagram above. No explosives were needed to be planted on the plane to cause the flash.



As far as the other claims in the video that the plane was "not an American Airlines", of course it wasn't. It was a United Airlines. And the reported colors of "grey" or "black" were somewhat correct:

As you can see, United Airlines colors are grey and dark blue. Since the plane was banking to port (left), anyone on the west-side of the towers would have seen mostly grey paint, and anyone on the east-side of the towers would have seen mostly dark blue, which would be almost black in the shadow of smoke.



If the author of the video "suspectsky" cannot do the most simplest of research about information that has been known to everyone for at least the past decade, then he probably shouldn't be producing videos, and can't be taken seriously.

edit on 12-1-2014 by _BoneZ_ because: (no reason given)

Could I ask who Erik Salter is, and why his word is gospel to you?
I won't claim to know much about 9/11 (i don't), and your avatar could even show that you care more about the subject than I do.
I'm quite sure SuspectSky had good intentions for his documentary, after all what has he got to gain from it?

What I can't fathom about his doc, was the radar video's, or the way WTC7 went down, plus the claims of explosions going off on each floor, just like a controlled demolition?
forgive my questions!

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One more question if I may (although I must )

Who done it?

I only ask because I respect your opinion and judgement on this subject.

projectbane
The US government did NOT kill their own people at all, I firmly believe it was members of Israel and the Jewish community funded by the Catholic Church in Rome!!

Yes I said it, the Roman Catholic Church (Vatican) funded the Israelis and Jews in this event!

oh look, another person blaming the Jews.... your hatred is showing!
According to some twisted people everything can be blamed on the Jews!