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macman
reply to post by TheRegal
And the military member pays taxes as well.
Yet, I have never heard of a military member sitting on their butt, and receiving a paycheck for being "poor".
Want to try that again????
Service Connected Disabilities
3.6 million
Number of veterans with a service-connected disability rating in 2012. Of this number, 881,981 had a rating of 70 percent or higher. A "service-connected" disability is one that was a result of a disease or injury incurred or aggravated during active military service. Severity of one's disability is scaled from 0 to 100 percent, and eligibility for compensation depends on one's rating.
macman
reply to post by LDragonFire
Now you are just grasping.
What does a service connected disability have to do with anything?
macman
The rights of I don't know, actually not have something stolen by the Govt to give to others.
Regardless if you think someone has too much, it doesn't give you the right to take just a little from them to give to others.
If you want those things, maybe work to get it, instead of looking to Govt to steal it away from someone and hand it to you.
TDawgRex
reply to post by jimmyx
I'm a history buff and do know why unions were formed and agree that they were needed at THAT time. But they have become what they once fought against. Unions are now like a tick in your nether regions sucking your blood without you realizing it until they have grown fat and soft.
opethPA
My frustration with welfare is the following..
I worked roughly a 65 hour week last week due to an outage.
I worked until 4 am last night and will be at work over night tonight due to an upgrade.
I would gladly be willing to give to others if someone is going to give me their time to help out with that work load.
That is not how it works though.
Last night I saw a woman talking on her iPhone using her credit card to pay for the second half of her shopping trip while she paid for the first with her EBT card.
That just doesn't work .
opethPA
My frustration with welfare is the following..
I worked roughly a 65 hour week last week due to an outage.
I worked until 4 am last night and will be at work over night tonight due to an upgrade.
I would gladly be willing to give to others if someone is going to give me their time to help out with that work load.
That is not how it works though.
Last night I saw a woman talking on her iPhone using her credit card to pay for the second half of her shopping trip while she paid for the first with her EBT card.
That just doesn't work .
TheRegal
So what?
iPhones are free if you sign a contract. You absolutely need a phone these days. How do you know she even had a data plan? She could've been paying 15 bucks a month for that iPhone.
Also an EBT card can be issued to people with disabilities. Not all disabilities are instantly recognizable, either. Maybe this woman has lupus? Would you want someone with lupus performing the work that you apparently do for 65 hours a week?
I'm sorry but your silly little anecdote really only described to me the instantaneous judgment of other people out of sheer ignorance that you would have to oblige in order to hold certain opinions being expressed here.
TheRegal
iPhones are free if you sign a contract. You absolutely need a phone these days. How do you know she even had a data plan? She could've been paying 15 bucks a month for that iPhone.
TheRegal
Also an EBT card can be issued to people with disabilities. Not all disabilities are instantly recognizable, either. Maybe this woman has lupus? Would you want someone with lupus performing the work that you apparently do for 65 hours a week?
TheRegal
I'm sorry but your silly little anecdote really only described to me the instantaneous judgment of other people out of sheer ignorance that you would have to oblige in order to hold certain opinions being expressed here.
opethPA
You absolutely do need a phone, what you don't need is a smartphone.
Assuming of course she is using a $15 a month voice only plan i have to ask which carrier actually offers that deal?
She also had keys in her add which it's a safe bet to assume she was driving a car of some sort.
I'm sorry but your assuming she isn't scamming the system just because it doesn't meet your argument tells me you have already made your mind up that all people on welfare are noble and honorable.
TDawgRex
TheRegal
So what?
iPhones are free if you sign a contract. You absolutely need a phone these days. How do you know she even had a data plan? She could've been paying 15 bucks a month for that iPhone.
You do realize that you contradicted yourself with that statement? Right? $15 dollars a month is not free.
It's good that you think of other possibilities why a person is on welfare or UC. But often it is just plain old laziness on the individuals part. They're getting something for nothing and milking the system. And THAT really pisses me off because there are those that do need those benefits.
TheRegal
So what?
iPhones are free if you sign a contract. You absolutely need a phone these days. How do you know she even had a data plan? She could've been paying 15 bucks a month for that iPhone.
TheRegal
Airvoice Wireless $10/mo
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TheRegal
Airvoice Wireless $10/mo
It's amazing to me how when people argue with anecdotes online and -- the first time they express it -- they just happen to leave out other information. Until, of course, it wasn't a good enough anecdote, then suddenly there were multiple other things in this circumstance that happened as well.
Amazing how me giving reasonable explanation for your first points suddenly reminded you that she had keys. Something you totally would've taken note of and definitely not something you would've made up to try and bolster your point.
I personally got a car as a wedding present, though, so again your assumptions aren't really convincing me that this woman actually shouldn't be on social assistance.
view that you had coming into this likely fictitious situation. Of course there are people who will milk the system. I'm sorry it's making you upset that you can't convince me to believe that this woman was one of them based on the lack of knowledge of her actual situation. I think it's probably aggravating you because you know she milks the system -- because you likely made her up entirely.