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Mancow claims actor 'trained' Obama, presidency pre-determined as early as 1998

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posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 12:12 AM
Hello ATS!

This is interesting, although the source must be considered. Mancow Muller, as a guest on the Alex Jones show, claims that actor Harry Lennix told him first-hand the following:

1) Harry Lennix was approached to "train" Obama to behave like an "educated African-American from the south side of Chicago."
2) Barack Obama was "taught" to act like Harry Lennix. Lennix claimed to have known Obama since 1992, and spent many hours talking to him. "The only person that knows Barack better than him is Michelle."
3) Barack Obama knew he would be president as early as 1998.

The claims occur starting at around 6:20.

Well, if he knew he was going to be president beforehand, that sure sounds like a conspiracy to me.

Any merit?

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posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 12:44 AM
Great post! I looked up Harry Lennix and just listen to him, and you can hear Obama:

posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 12:47 AM
reply to post by UnifiedSerenity

The resemblance is stunning !!

Now we know.

posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 12:53 AM
reply to post by xuenchen

"Karen Hudes" of the world bank says that obozo's mom was a Cia agent involved with blackmailing others, and obozo's wife was blackmailed for having a honey pot affair - it is from a link of the sight that will not be mentioned - but there is a lot of info about obozo's mom in other sites.....

This is just a game - and, as always, the american people are the losers.

You can tell obozo has an earphone in his ear to make his "speeches" - he can't even "read the teleprompter" anymore.

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posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 12:54 AM
reply to post by InTheFlesh1980

There are a few pics of Lennix and Obama together on IMDB.

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posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 01:10 AM
Well we already knew the presidency was predetermined and we already knew Obammy is good at sellin maple syrup to the masses via his great pappys aunt jamammy.

What else is new? Everything about the man is a farce and everything he says is horse puckey.

He could sell ice to an Eskimo and not even blink. Well trained sir, well trained.

I have it by a little bird that there is much more of a fabrication as far as he's concerned than even his most closest friends understand.

posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 01:29 AM
reply to post by InTheFlesh1980

I highly doubt in the credibility of this source, although let us give it some thought:

When thinking about it, it might be overexaggerated (half-truth) or simply lies. Reasons why it could be overexaggerations.

1) It is quite common to hire actors to teach public appearance skills for politicians. Friends/aquitances are often the best option. Better connection, more trust, more open and honest relationship. I have personally asked some of my friends (who are socially very strong) for giving me feedback and helping me with public appearances.

2) Certain characters are usually picked for politicians. Even though one is usually like that (making up history is too risky) , role is usually tailored to connect with even larger audience, to appear more genuine. Most people lack the social skills to appear genuine, that is the reason why often specialists are used, who decide which points to emphasise on, which clothes to wear, which words to use for gaining most votes. Basic psychology on persuasion.

3) I am nearly 100% sure that he did not know he WILL be president. He was senator in 1998 and quite popular. Due to his potential of gaining votes from certain voter base, he might have been let know that he is being considered as being set up as presidential candidate in the future. The candidates often depend on circumstances a´la economic situation, international politics etc. Potential candidates might be picked out years before, decisions are being made couple of years before the elections. Even in smaller organisations, when a new member shows high potential, they are often let known beforehand that they might get far in some years, if they do not screw up and retain their reputation.

Although these are just wild guesses based on experience. Although as I said before I am nearly 100% sure, that the source is either overexaggerating on purpose in order to create scandal (clicks=money) or simply making stuff up.
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posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 01:33 AM
I stopped it halfway through because all I need to know is one thing; did Harry Lennix ever use the term "Rat Bastard" for anything else on the record. Movies, TV, plays... because that is not a normal term of defamation. Think about it, have you ever slandered someone with an obscure term such as that and never used it again? I know I haven't and if I were an accomplished actor it would likely be on the record somewhere that I did in fact use that obscure term and it would have been captured. If this is the only instance of him on quasi record saying it then I would not be able to accept it as fact even though it could be true.

I know it's not scientific so don't call me out on it, it's just something that I would lean on from my gut of being around the planet and associating with people and re-establishing contact with them over the years. People are creatures of habit, they do in fact use terms, sayings that they like and stick to them. They may incorporate new terms but those old terms will re-emerge if you hang around them long enough.

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posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 02:06 AM
Yup, right on time. Five years into an eight year term, time to start the real slop-slinging to keep the peasants entertained and gridlock any possible actual governance. Then in another year they'll announce the opposite-side 'savior' that's gonna fix everything and the teapartiers will believe everything that jackass says and wave flags at rallies and know that finally, finally, their ship will come in, just so long as they get rid of the black guy. Only it won't.

Rinse, repeat, with your toxic hate mongering Sham-Poo.

So far I've tolerated watching one president get his head blown off in broad daylight, the next a career criminal who made J Edgar Hoover look like a piker in the revenge department, then the guy who claimed he'd end the Vietnam War but couldn't tell us how he was going to do it without being voted in first, then he resigned in disgrace after his VP resigned in disgrace, then we got Ford (a placeholder but relatively benign compared to the last dozen years), then Carter, one of our most earnest and intelligent presidents, they hounded him out of office with the whole Iran Hostage setup, then Ronnie Raygun that fake ass 'conservative' who really only knew how to chuckle and read scripts (I'd rather have had Bonzo), then that true world class Nazi ex-head of the CIA, 'can't remember where I was on 11/22/1963' utter disaster of an anti-Kennedy, then a zipper challenged policy wonk Elvis wannabe, then the Nazi's idiot coc aine and alcohol addled son, and now finally our current situation.

What the Fuk kind of country is this??? Isn't there a line or two in the Constitution on how to put a stop to it? What the hell good is the right to bear arms if this isn't solvable with a little down home rebellion?

posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 02:09 AM
reply to post by UnifiedSerenity

I'm not going to listen to the Alex Jones thing because, whatever, but that video.... Wow..

I don't know that the premise is true, but Obama had to be copying this guy. They have the same everything. If Obama was a better actor he would BE this guy. That being said when did it happen? Why did it? It's nothing strange that a guy would get training on how to appear better to the masses. Everyone on TV does this through make up artists wardrobe writers and the like..

For all I know he could have just been giving him speech lessons for politics in general. Obama seems the type that would do anything to move up.

So the one piece that needs to stick for me is Did he do this knowing he would be president. I don't see any prove of that, but it would be less surprising than if he had not.

I still wonder what Breitbart had on tape.

Please go back and read the post above mine. very well put.

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posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 02:18 AM
anyone one of us could be president assuming we were born into the right family at the right still amazes me how they have the majority voting actually believing the vote counts....sad state of affairs ....

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posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 02:48 AM

A jury in South Bend, Indiana has found that fraud put President Obama and Hillary Clinton on the presidential primary ballot in Indiana in the 2008 election. Two Democratic political operatives were convicted Thursday night in the illegal scheme after only three hours of deliberations. They were found guilty on all counts...

...Former longtime St. Joseph County Democratic party Chairman Butch Morgan Jr. was found guilty of felony conspiracy counts to commit petition fraud and forgery, and former county Board of Elections worker Dustin Blythe was found guilty of felony forgery counts and falsely making a petition, after being accused of faking petitions that enabled Obama, then an Illinois Senator, to get on the presidential primary ballot for his first run for the White House.

Morgan was accused of being the mastermind behind the plot.

According to testimony from two former Board of Election officials who pled guilty, Morgan ordered Democratic officials and workers to fake the names and signatures that Obama and Clinton needed to qualify for the presidential race.

vote fraud convictions obama could not have been president without

Apr quickly weez forgits
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posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 03:50 AM
reply to post by InTheFlesh1980


I'm not surprised in the least.

This much was fairly obvious to anyone paying attention and who knew even the bare basics of O's life.

Of course he was chosen early in his life . . . . they knew that his high levels of ATTACHMENT DISORDER and his Marxist parents and grandparents made him the perfect stooge for this scheduled stage of destruction of the Republic.

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posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 06:47 AM
Interesting that this validates whistleblower : Andrew D. Basiago - Project Pegasus ...

Great catch Op...

posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 10:46 AM
reply to post by InTheFlesh1980

Heh, I just got done watching this segment and now wished I watched it a little earlier, glad I looked before posting this story and without a doubt this interview blew my mind. It takes guts to go on record saying such things and I worry that something unfortunate could happen to Mancow or Lennix for speaking out.....

On a separate note, someone said something about Lennix doesn't "talk like that and does not ever use the term 'Rat Bastard'"......It occurs to me that anyone that is in the spotlight wears two faces be it politician or actor or whatever. They wear the public face for what they want the masses to see and they also have a private mask that talks and acts much differently from the persona that they portray to the masses. So giving that I don't find it too much of a stretch to believe that there could be some validity to this.

posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 11:10 AM

Barack Obama knew he would be president as early as 1998.

The first quote below from a dinner party conversation at a Moscow flat in 1992 shows that the Communists knew of Barack from a very early date and that he was being groomed to be their anticipated rising star to pave the way for their future.

"What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?"

The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, "Well, you will; and he will be a Communist."

It was then that the husband unsuccessfully tried to change the subject; but she was on a roll and would have nothing of it. One of us asked, "It sounds like you know something we don't know."

"Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of Presidents. He is what you call "Ivy League". You don't believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack.

He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. He's gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America."

We sat there not knowing what to say. She was obviously very happy that the Communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: they would give us a black president and he'd be a Communist to boot. She made it quite obvious that she thought that this was going to breathe new life into world Communism. From this and other conversations with her, she always asserted that Communism was far from dead.

She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the legislature. "Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet."

The First Time I Heard Of Barack

Barack Obama: The Soviet Union's Chosen One (An interview with the author, Tom Fife @11min.) Transcript here.

I do not want to mince words, Obama is preparing to subjugate the entire country. This is a purposeful act and Obama, his Cabinet and FEMA are making conscious decisions to destroy the sovereignty of this country.

Before I review the many elements of the planned Russian “surprise attack”, it is important for America to understand that it takes a communist to bring communism to America. Obama was bred by communists, raised by communists, educated at the finest schools with communist money, his political career was launched by communists and his controllers in the White House are communists. Obama is the lynchpin of a multigenerational plan to hand America over to the Russians and to the Chinese communists. Click on the hypertext links in this paragraph to read the proof of what I speak.

Obama did not just wake up one day and decide to weaken American defenses and hand over the country to the Russian communists. Obama was groomed for this position for the past several years. He is indeed the right communist, at the right time, whose mission is to bring America the most crippling form of communism the world has ever seen.

America Is Officially An Occupied Nation

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posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 12:12 PM
Harry Lennix has been typecast for as long as I can remember in the "BarryO" role since at least 1991. Long before anyone ever heard of the pres. It's the voice that really cinches it.

I like Key&Peele's version of Obama better, complete with Luther, anger translator.

True or not, why would anyone be surprised? Politicians are skilled and sophisticated liars and manipulators. Why do you suppose most have law degrees?

posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 12:15 PM
A couple years ago when I was re watching one of the matrix sequels I was like wow that guy could really play Obama in a movie. Makes a lot of sense now I suppose (if it's true)

posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 12:20 PM
Sounds the same to me
1991 as today...
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posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 12:21 PM
Seems to me that we will soon hear from the source, Harry Lennix.

I don't think he is going to be able to hide from this. He will be sought after.

THAT would be very interesting

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