Americans, Be Careful

reply to post by sonnny1

Take away Government programs such as welfare though, and you might have a problem.

When we default, that's exactly what's going to happen. No more social services. Even police and firemen will not be paid. Someone needs to get this retard out of the white house. He raised the debt over 1 Trillion just to implement his budget, that hurt us. His constant spending and now wants Obamacare implemented so it will finish the country off.

reply to post by Tsu322


The best place to tell people about this kind of thinking is in your community. I'm sure most of us on ATS would probably be a little more hesitant towards an unwise action provoked by civil unrest, but there are people in your neighborhood that may not excercise as much temperance.

You know how when you witness a crime, you can press charges on the assailant, even as a witness? Well, let us assume the assailant is a piece of legislation or action taken by an agent/agency that treats another unjustly. It is your right, and perhaps your duty, to file a complaint on what you've witnessed, on behalf of your community.

I say this because, we can all blame lazy people, but you can also blame yourself for being lazy about not fighting for the lazy people. That's almost a socialist mindset, I know, take care of the lazy people. Then again, those who let evil prevail, might as well be in cahoots with them.

All you need to do is be assertive in your, and your communities rights. It may take a bit of your time and some money, but its a bottom up approach to fixing the government. If you are one that is unable to afford certain filling fees for a civil action against an agency of the government (or anyone else), you may file an action in forma pauperis, meaning your fee is waived if you can show you are not able to afford them.

Rychwebo
reply to post by Tsu322

 

The best place to tell people about this kind of thinking is in your community.

Too bad some of our communities are full of gun-toting, gang-banger types who would love to see nothing more than a lack of L.E.O.'s present to stop them from "blasting-off" at anyone they so chose deserves it.

A friend an I have decided in post-civilization there will be two types of people:

Marauders:

People who just want to kill, rape, and pillage. They don't need justifiable reasons to do the horrible things they do other than "because they can".

Smart People:

The people who group together for the common interest of survival and flourish. These people will pool resources and work together to form new societies of what will most likely be, everyone working together to help each other out and everyone getting the same amount of everything.

This isn't a perfect world, you will always have someone who wants to go against everyone just for the sake of argument.

You also have the factor of everyone's stress levels. These are human beings, mammals, animals. They have limits to how much stress they can mentally/physically/financially endure before they snap, just like every other animal in nature.

Some will peacefully protest, some will want blood, the rest will be somewhere in between. Best of luck to everyone in the new world.

reply to post by Vortiki


I think my post speaks to your signature "H.H.H. Humans Helping Humans Support the Cause!", as long as the "cause" is supporting humanity.

On to your post. I'm not sure if it was an objection to what I said or just an addition. I hope that a new world doesn't have to come, unless it is one in which we support our community.

If ever there was an incident where a gun-toting-hip-gangster-wanna-be, was unjustly being provoked or arrested by an agent of the government, I should think that coming to the support of the one in distress would, more than likely, set a good precedent for the community. If you helped people out of situations you wouldn't want to be in, as opposed to standing by, only a positive outcome can happen over time. If it is agreed that we are heading towards a negative outcome, then its probably because we don't help people enough. And that has lead to laws being written that affect everyone.

Rychwebo
reply to post by Vortiki

 

I think my post speaks to your signature "H.H.H. Humans Helping Humans Support the Cause!", as long as the "cause" is supporting humanity.

On to your post. I'm not sure if it was an objection to what I said or just an addition. I hope that a new world doesn't have to come, unless it is one in which we support our community.

If ever there was an incident where a gun-toting-hip-gangster-wanna-be, was unjustly being provoked or arrested by an agent of the government, I should think that coming to the support of the one in distress would, more than likely, set a good precedent for the community. If you helped people out of situations you wouldn't want to be in, as opposed to standing by, only a positive outcome can happen over time. If it is agreed that we are heading towards a negative outcome, then its probably because we don't help people enough. And that has lead to laws being written that affect everyone.

I was merely adding an objective perspective. I think in the state of chaos a default would bring people would be shocked by the amount of people actually working together to try to survive rather than fighting each other for what they have. At least that is my plan, to try to group people together to help each other to survive rather than just keeping to myself and running away.

I was going to try and find an EBT thread to put this in but I felt this thread was more appropriate. "Americans you need to be really really careful"

States told to hold off EBT for November

Scary because people will do what it takes to survive. It's just like trying to save someone when they're drowning. If you don't know how to save that person... They'll take you down w/ them. Fear is a powerful thing and if you think your child will starve.... For some... They'll kill you.

reply to post by Vortiki


Yes. Also, these groups you speak of, ought to be formed of people you share ideas with, of course. However, one thing I have tried to do, off and on, is infiltrate the minds of others, in person and over the Internet, on topics in which the majority oppose my views on. I go for the threads of the web that spew dogmatism and anarchy, and I try to talk sense without offending. Sometimes, I will sway people to come to the side of reason and show them the contradictions in their lines of reasoning.

I think it is most important to take the "zombie" approach to achieving a humanitarian goal, you have to convert people to your side, not just gather the already converted. Even if it is just one person, it counts as two, one less for the side of ignorance, and one more for the side of..... non-ignorance.

Ignorance prospers in this way, because all they can do is convert, their job of being ignorant is already done, so the only thing left is to convert people. The problem with some "smart" people, is that they have no desire to convert anyone to the smart side, because that is very difficult, if done incorrectly.

Here's a thought that's been passing through my mind lately....

Random Elitist Richard-Noggin: Dammit! We spent so much time dumbing them down, now we cannot get them to revolt without resorting to methods that will have serious repercussions in the international community!


Apparently even China is warning them to stop manufacturing crises...

So, these people inciting rebellion may be plants. They need one of us to strike the first blow, and they are going to have to use their same old trick of setting up a pasty... Everyone will see through it. They know they are hanging by a thread when it comes to this and they can't take it much further.

Of course I could be wrong. Maybe they are pleased that nobody is rebelling. Maybe they are testing us so they know if we are ready to have NWO/Mark of Beast or whatever implemented.

But they set it up so they win either way. If we rebel, they use martial law and slowly implement the new order. If we don't, they slowly continue to implement the new order. Maybe a rebellion would.have allowed them to speed up their plans?

reply to post by Tsu322


I don't think it was Chinese hackers, I think it was a deliberate interruption in the grid. But the admin cannot even get the healthcare website working. They hired a Canadian contractor who used _javascript and DDOSd itself.

www.reuters.com...

SnF My Friend! we should be careful for the first time we chose