This is the picture Phil Schneider presented showing a humanoid alien with his father.

a reply to: Rocker2013

Did you look at the picture that I linked in my post above yours? I wasn't able to upload it, but if you can, I sure would appreciate it.

Just going to re-post the whole thing. A video link went bad, so I have a good one now.

originally posted by: FearYourMind
This is the picture Phil Schneider held up at the 1995 Preparedness Expo lecture that he claimed to show an alien named Val Valient Thor. This alien supposedly had one giant lung, blood vessels much bigger than ours, blood similar to an octopus along with a much higher IQ and longer lifespan. I'm wondering if there is any way to confirm if any of the guys in the background are the nuclear scientist of those days as Phil claims in the video at 20:20. Phil says his father is in the photo as well. Has anyone analyzed this picture yet? I searched and didn't find anything.

Phil's father is sitting directly behind the alleged alien. This is a picture of Phil's father.

Comparison with screenshot from the video.

Phil describes the photo at 20:20 into the lecture.

edit on 9-8-2015 by FearYourMind because: (no reason given)

originally posted by: Rocker2013
This might just be the most ridiculous thread I have ever seen on ATS.
No wonder the Alien conspiracy club is deemed to be one of the most idiotic in the world.

Just a random guy, in a photo, in a room, and somehow every little thing from the way he looks to his position in the room to the clothes he's wearing (entirely Earthbound clothes too, by the way) is somehow "proof" that he's an Alien?! lol

I tell you what guys, I'll grab a photo from somewhere else and you can all tell me how those minute little things captured in a split second in a random room with random people means that one of them is an Alien. That's basically what plenty of you are doing with this image.

Have you listened to any of Phil Schneider's lectures? If so, you would understand why people are interested.

originally posted by: Bloodydagger
Well, its a bit odd that he died not that long after he went live with that video feed and "came out" with all of this Dulce stuff. Do I believe it though? Nah, at least not a lot of it. But I think there is truth in it.

My belief is he was assassinated by the CIA because he was getting ready to publish a book that would expose the exact locations of every military and government underground base in the United States. He was a structural engineer who built a lot of these bases, so he had top secret clearances and when you start talking they shut you up. I also spoke to his daughter and she believes he was murdered. After all, who would take their catheter out, wrap it around their neck 3 times and strangle themselves when they have a gun and plenty of narcotics around? Also, he was missing fingers that would make it nearly impossible for him to wrap his catheter around his neck and tie that knot the way it was.

a reply to: FearYourMind

Why would an assassin strangle someone with a catheter if there were guns and drugs around?

a reply to: DJW001

I imagine they wanted to torture him and try to get information out of him. Strangling is also a quiet way of murdering someone. Especially considering he lived in a apartment complex. There is no doubt he was strangled with his catheter though. The pics of his death show it wrapped around his neck.

a reply to: FearYourMind

I imagine they wanted to torture him and try to get information out of him.

I thought they were trying to get him not to get information out.

Strangling is also a quiet way of murdering someone.

Drugs would be quieter and less "suspicious."

a reply to: DJW001

I think they were torturing him to try and see if he knew more or if he had told anyone else. After all, they killed his best friend as well, but it was ruled a suicide just like Phil's death. Drugs aren't a good torturing tool, but yes they will kill someone. Whoever came inside his apartment knew him because he let them in. There was no forced entry. He had a girlfriend at the time. A pretty girl that didn't seem to fit for a guy like him. I think she was CIA and had the keys to his apartment. There were people, or rumors at least, that two men and one woman were seen last at his apartment.

The CIA is dirty. They'll kill, torture, use mind control techniques and ruin your life. Just as they did to Gary Webb who exposed the CIA's involvement in smuggling coc aine in the country and starting the crack epidemic. Gary Webb was found shot in the head twice and it was ruled a suicide. A movie is out now about that. A good one called "Kill the Messenger". The CIA finally admitted to the coc aine smuggling in 1999, but the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal clouded it all and nobody really heard about it. They create those kinds of scandals though so people will be distracted.

My father worked for Congress and we lived next to a CIA agent. Weird things happened there. I was even approached by a CIA agent while washing my car one day. They are intimidating.

a reply to: FearYourMind

Fixed the link in the OP for you.

originally posted by: Hefficide
a reply to: FearYourMind

Fixed the link in the OP for you.

Thank you so much. That really bothered me for a while.

Hmm it's certainly possible the CIA could have crafted this thing. They have been involved in assassinations in the past and black budget programs not available for study under the F.O.I.A plus limitless resources certainly gives them leverage. AFOSI may also be the culprit. Regardless, no doubt it would have needed to be someone in the counterintelligence field to pull something like this off.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: FearYourMind

Why would an assassin strangle someone with a catheter if there were guns and drugs around?

Obviously you don't know much about assassinations which is normal since you're NOT one. l

originally posted by: Choppz

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: FearYourMind

Why would an assassin strangle someone with a catheter if there were guns and drugs around?

Obviously you don't know much about assassinations which is normal since you're NOT one. l

One does not have to be a baseball player to be able to speculate on playing baseball, one does not have to be a nurse to speculate on medical procedures, one does not have to be a teacher to speculate on teaching practices........I think the application of logic to any situation is.......logical.......if not always correct......

So you think it would be more "assasinatey" if he would have OD on drugs and then been shot? ANd that discredits a man ripping out his OWN penis line and strangle himself with it? Logical huh

a reply to: Dustytoad

The picture just looks like a guy. And if I was going to walk among society I would... Look like a guy.. Doesn't mean anything either way unless this guy is still alive and looks the same because he doesn't age or something like that. I don't know.

He looks like a genetically perfected Aryan. A couple of the men in the room do seem to be glaring at him, their expressions are interesting, the subject must be interesting, the "alien" is holding some papers for a speech it seems.

originally posted by: GeneralChaos

reply to post by GeneralChaos

 

Don't see how his fingers look any different from a normal humans. I draw on a daily basis, and feel I've got a pretty good eye for judging size in a picture, and when I compare his hand with my own hand held in the same position, it looks the same.
I won't make any assertions as to who he is, or where he is from. But nothing in this picture implies that he is anything but human.

If you click on the link I provided it becomes much easier to see that his hand just appears large because of the angel he is holding it at compared with the camera, and the fact that his arm is leaned on top of the surface behind him, which is a little hard to tell in the small version I posted.

You're right, I take it back.
I don't see what is clearly right in front of me.
What clearly at first appears very abnormal becomes totally normal in every sense once I listen to
your explanation.

Boy do I feel silly now.
Thank you for telling me what I see with your abundance of qualifications.......in...drawing was it?

I'm an astronaut whos gone to zeta reticuli. I can verify that is one of the species that inhabits one of the 3 colonized worlds in that sector of the galaxy.

Due to my qualifications in astro-exploration, warp crystals, and optical weapons. There is no need to question the size of his hand. It is in fact 3 microns past the avg. human size. Which falls perfectly into this species "avg" palm size.

Well this guy in the Photo looks Aryan to me for sure...

The Blow up shows something Odd


I notice three bumps ( circled )
and one bump just behind the ear.

and something strange on the fore head ..

other then that A Aryan for sure.
or the so called norse Alien

I call Bull # for the One Lung.
all though larger vessels make sense
if he is from a different atmosphere on his home planet.

it's funny when some people mention,
that an Alien must look Non Humanoid

who's to say there were some Seeding going on in the past ions ago.
Modern MAN isn't even Adapted right, to this Planet Environment.

yet modern humans been on this planet ( 250,000 years )
a very short time. compared to extinct Hominids of millions of years.

just perhaps Advanced Primate's aka Homo Sapiens Dominate the Milky Way.

hell People.. we are still a Civilization Type 0 ( we are Still in the crib with a Rattle )

The thing on his forehand is hair and another persons hand...

All I see in your circles is hair.

It's an ordinary human.

a reply to: Wolfenz

The people are looking at the camera...

a reply to: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: raymundoko
The thing on his forehand is hair and another persons hand...

All I see in your circles is hair.

It's an ordinary human.

a reply to: Wolfenz

LOL....


Compare with and with out the yellow circles then..

The Location where those circles are !


yeah its a Hand.. whats before it is what im more focused on ..




Stone Faced & Chisel Chin.

gotta be a Kryptonian


Now did someone mention the Photo has actual Nuclear Scientist's in it ?