Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake - PART 2

i still am amazed that nobody is seriously suggesting the Fukushima reactors which are progressing past the 'China Syndrome' level should be collapsed into a pit & buried deep in the Earth crust.


take a pair of nuclear bombs... drill two shafts directly beneath the nuclear fission engaged reactors
shaft #1 somewhere near 1,250 feet directly below the radiating reactor cores & fuel rods
shaft #2 somewhere near 1,250 below the placement of bomb #1

set them off at the same time and a stack of two cavernous chambers will be created from the nukes
therefore it would only take a little more engineering and horizontal drilling of the dirt supporting the reactors for the whole mess of cores & spent & damaged fuel rods (several tonnes worth) to fall into the very deep caverns created by the stacked nuke demolitions

the Earth may crater into the caverns... but backfill will remedy that... the dangerous reactors cores will be some 2000 feet deeper than the groundwater sources... and some containment will have been successfully done, the present surface interventions are a complete waste of time & effort


One might question the use of two, stacked nukes to create this 2-3,000 foot deep chamber beneath Fukushima
will trigger local Earthquakes... so What... it is still a logical attempt to stop the radiating of the whole Japan landmass and the Seas & Oceans of the Northern Hemisphere

Wake up engineers, TEPCO Japan, and the World policeman aka: the USA

reply to post by St Udio


I can see some very violent Explosions in div. Forums
if they start to develop such a Plan

There is no need to bury the Cores in a uncontrolled
Manner and Environment and it would be also
very "un-Japanese"!

They want perfection and not noise, dirt and Chaos.

No, cooling, cooling and one more cooling is the Way to go
and in a few Decades we built a huge Shrine at Daiichi!

I would have thought that the last thing we need is for nuclear technology to be used so near to a sensitive tectonic plate area. Imagine the vibration and disruption which would be caused by the exploding of such bombs and what effect it would have on the area which already a dodgy one seizmically. You would most likely set off another huge earthquake as a result of the plates moving and another subsequent tsunami which would kill a shed-load of people - like the last one did.

I agree that we need some resolution to this problem, but I am not sure something so large, unfocused and uncontrollable such as a nuclear weapon should be used. I think it would just cause more problems. I have no doubt that there are factions in the debate who favour this approach.

There are some folks who believe that the original quake and tsunami at offshore Fukushima was set off by a nuke in the begining due to the quake signature which they argue is not a "normal" standard earthquake signature plot.

I posted this on another thread, but it also belongs here in the main thread:

Two cracks were discovered in a concrete floor near radioactive water storage tanks on the grounds of the stricken Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, the plant operator said Feb. 11. Officials with Tokyo Electric Power Co. said some of the contaminated water from the melting snow blanketing the area may have seeped into the ground through the cracks.

ajw.asahi.com...


I have a feeling that the tank farms were built too quickly without the proper substructure in place.... Time will tell.


I still say that Tepco is going to dump the water from the tanks into the ocean soon.....they are running out of space and the gamma radiation is increasing in the area of the tanks. They are going to have to do something soon.

Has anybody seen this? I know its a little old...

I just watched this and thought there were valid points he made along with a couple of strange ones...


This guy says the equipment pool in reactor 4 melted out ( I never heard of an equipment pool )..... I have no idea if this is true or not... Give it a watch, it's 20 minutes...I found it interesting.

www.youtube.com...

It actually makes sense if you have read some of the early internal emails that went on,,,,,,its worth investigating I think.

Regarding a Jiji Press article on February 10, 2014, "TEPCO did not disclose data of highly contaminated groundwater of Fukushima Daiichi= 5 million Bq last summer when obtained: Nuclear Regulation Authority (NRA)"

-The Jiji Press states in its article "TEPCO did not disclose data of highly contaminated groundwater of Fukushima Daiichi= 5 million Bq last summer when obtained: NRA" that "TEPCO explained to the NRA that it obtained the highest level of Strontium 90 in July 2013. The facts regarding this issue are as follows.

-There are no facts that TEPCO had obtained the analysis result data (sampling water from groundwater observation hole 1-2, taken on July 5, 2013) in July, 2013.

-There are neither any facts that TEPCO explained to the NRA that it had obtained the analysis result in July, 2013, or that TEPCO corrected to the NRA the time when it obtained the analysis result.


July 5, 2013 Sampling water was taken from the Groundwater observation hole No.1-2

July 26, 2013 Radioactive analysis of the aforementioned water started.

September 12, 2013 The analysis finished, however, TEPCO had suspended the definition of the data. Because on the other analysis, on July 24, 2013, it was found that the measured Sr-90 were above that of Gross β, and the cause of such inversion was not determined.

February 5, 2014 TEPCO announced the cause of the inversion of Sr-90 and Gross β.

February 6, 2014 TEPCO defined and announced the analysis result of the aforementioned data (Sr-90 of the sampling water from groundwater observation hole 1-2, taken on July 5, 2013), which had been suspended.

Tepco

reply to post by RickinVa


I came until Min. 7.45 but only with a lot of Goodwill

Exactly this Type of Videos are the true Distraction
and Mis-information which create Panic and a really
unscientific handling of the Problematic in F'Shima
by the People like us!

Avoid this Bs., there is no Benefit for anyone to watch it!

IAEA mission report:
TEPCO needs to find 'sustainable solution' to contaminated water

The International Atomic Energy Association has issued a final report about the decommissioning of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, based partly on a second visit to the site in November-December 2013 and meetings with government and regulatory officials. The visits were requested by Japan.

The report is both supportive, highlighting 19 areas of progress, and elsewhere offers criticisms and Advisory Point, in particular 19 advisory points.

Among other things, the report seems to favour controlled releases of treated water to sea, and seems to have concerns about what might be overly-restrictive radiation levels required for members of the public.
It says:

"The IAEA team considers that Japan developed its efforts towards decommissioning the plant promptly after the accident, and since then, Japan has achieved good progress in improving its strategy and the associated plans, as well as in allocating the necessary resources towards the safe decommissioning of TEPCO's Fukushima Daiichi NPS.

"Since the first IAEA mission in April 2013, the Government of Japan and TEPCO have adopted a more proactive attitude and approach towards addressing the many difficulties at the site.

"The IAEA team also notes that the current situation is very complex, and that there are still some challenging issues (e.g., contaminated water management, nuclear fuel removal, and fuel debris removal) that must be resolved to achieve the long-term stable condition of the plant. In light of these challenges, Japan appears to have adopted a well-oriented set of countermeasures."

An edited version of the acknowledgements and Advisory Point is below.

Report

There will always be those in favour of atomic energy putting out their speel and pro-nuclear agenda. They stand to make a lot of money and most of the members of the different organisations are probably working in the industry, so they are hardly un-biased.

If these organisations were made up of fishermen the recommendadtions would probably be different or opposite. You dont need to have a high IQ to see that.

It is interesting that (in effect) TEPCO can come on this thread and post a rebuttal of an accusation made against them. Now we have to put up with this. Please ATS do something about it.

reply to post by qmantoo


Rofl!

In my "very humble" Opinion Tepco got the Right to hear them
and People who dislike it and call for a Censorship
are the People who favor that the World is flat,
Women belong behind the Stove and/ or the Whites are the Prime Race

I think their Messages are the Salt in the Soup
and important to understand at least the Basics,
it seams like you dislike it and this makes you look strange!

Kind Regards

Fukushima N-plant struggles continue

FUKUSHIMA—Water contaminated with radioactive substances continues to flow into the basement level, while the collection of spent nuclear fuel rods is progressing steadily at the No. 4 reactor of Tokyo Electric Power Co.’s Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant. That was the situation, due chiefly to the absence of any decisive countermeasures, when we visited on Wednesday.

When the Great East Japan Earthquake occurred on March 11, 2011, the No. 4 reactor was not operating, having been suspended for regular checkups. Therefore, the radiation level inside that reactor still remains lower than those at the plant’s Nos. 1 to 3 reactors where the core meltdowns occurred.

However, the contaminated water still continues flowing into the No. 4 reactor from the adjacent No. 3 reactor via pipes and other routes. We went down to the basement level for the first news coverage from the spot. The radiation level in the area measured 10 to 12 microsieverts per hour, which would add up to one millisievert in a matter of four days—the level that an ordinary person is estimated to be exposed to in a year.
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Using a new crane that replaced the old one, workers were collecting the fuel rods one by one and putting them into a special container, while monitoring progress on a computer screen. About 330 of the 1,533 fuel rods had already been taken out. Everything appeared to be in order there, as if nothing had ever happened.

Good Read

Everybody's favorite,,, Arnie is back.

The destruction caused by the supersonic explosive shockwave […] no nuclear containment in the world can withstand a detonation shockwave like the one inside Fukushima Daiichi Unit 3

This time he is claiming that a 35 ton piece of equipment fell into the SPF at #3. Wouldn't surprise me at all, anyone who has seen the explosion has to know that some massive forces were involved. Wonder when Tepco is going to try and remove whatever is left of those rods???

fairewinds.org...

ex-skf.blogspot.jp...

(UPDATE-2) Of all news outlets, it was Yomiuri who reported the news (two days late) and mentioned the last remaining potential route for the debris pieces - Reactor 3 explosion. From Yomiuri Shinbun (2/24/2014):
原子炉建屋の水素爆発で飛び散ったのか、海から流されてきたのかなど、理由は不明という。

The reason [why the debris pieces were there] is unknown; they could have been scattered by the hydrogen explosion in the reactor building, or they could have come from the ocean.

This news continues to be mostly ignored by both the mainstream media and the alternative net media. Very strange.

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(UPDATE 2/13/2014) The only news I've found so far about these debris pieces in Naraha-machi is from FNN local Fukushima news. Even that news hides the fact that the radioactivity of maximum 2.92 million becquerels of radioactive cesium IS PER 0.4 GRAM SAMPLE.

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Specifically, four small pieces of debris found at the river mouth in Naraha-machi 15 kilometers from the plant may have come from Reactor 3.

Ex-Skf

Read the full Story, it is good.

He is doing a great Job, since nearly 3 Years a very high Quality,
Domo for that.


Amazing that they found such small pieces!

Tepco took months to release record strontium readings at Fukushima

TOKYO (Reuters) - The operator of Japan's wrecked Fukushima nuclear plant knew about record high measurements of a dangerous isotope in groundwater at the plant for five months before telling the country's nuclear watchdog, a regulatory official told Reuters.

Tokyo Electric Power Co (Tepco) said late on Wednesday it detected 5 million becquerels per liter of radioactive strontium-90 in a sample from a groundwater well about 25 meters from the ocean last September. That reading was more than five times the broader all-beta radiation reading taken at the same well two months earlier.

A Tepco spokesman said there was uncertainty about the reliability and accuracy of the September strontium reading, so the utility decided to re-examine the data.

Shinji Kinjo, head of a Nuclear Regulation Authority (NRA) taskforce on contaminated water issues at Fukushima, told Reuters he had not heard about the record high strontium reading until this month. "We did not hear about this figure when they detected it last September," he said. "We have been repeatedly pushing Tepco to release strontium data since November. It should not take them this long to release this information.

Closer Look at Unit 3 Destruction

Hoping for English translation soon....

photo.tepco.co.jp...

- Purple Chive

reply to post by Purplechive


They just say that this is the Top of Reactor Nr.3
after they removed the Debris, nothing special!

It look sooooo small, unprodected and harmless
but is damned deadly.

reply to post by Purplechive




Amazing, all the Steel,
teared apart!

Human, can we have the source of this image R#3 please?
When was it taken?

Why is the area underneath the crane hook greyed more than other areas with straight line border too. If you look carefully, the crane hook has been added as the cables dont line up with the greyed area to its left.

I suspect we are getting a made-up public relations shot. What is real and what is not?

TEPCO often modify their images ([sarcasm]for National Security purposes, of course[/sarcasm]) so it is useful to have a link to make sure we are getting the best quality image and not one of reduced quality from being posted on the forum.

reply to post by qmantoo


This Photo was from Purplechives Posting: Regarding Purplechive

I dont see what you see
but on the left Side, ca. 5Cm above the Ground i see something
that do not belong there

Tepco done the Photo regulary.