Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake - PART 2

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What do you make of these changes?

wishes
reply to post by Purplechive

 

What do you make of these changes?

a) A valve was left open/closed
b) Did not use enough duct tape
c) FUBAR
d) WTF happen?
e) All of the above.

(In memory of Aircooled - miss ya dude!)

- Purple Chive

Unit 3 SFP Temp Up....

Higher than Unit 4. Another BIG WHY???

March 4:
www.tepco.co.jp...

Feb 4:
www.tepco.co.jp...

Jan 4:
www.tepco.co.jp...

- Purple Chive

Purplechive

wishes
reply to post by Purplechive

 

What do you make of these changes?

a) A valve was left open/closed
b) Did not use enough duct tape
c) FUBAR
d) WTF happen?
e) All of the above.

(In memory of Aircooled - miss ya dude!)

- Purple Chive

Yeah, hard to pick just one of those choices... I tend to lean towards (d) followed by (b) based on the amazing history of fubars and snafus... If it wasn't so serious with deadly and far reaching consequences it would be worth a thousand jokes and belly laughs - much like the BP fiasco...

Year 3... we should be seeing more cancer rates though they will be hidden and hard to get real statistics. What people could do is take any opportunity when they go to a hospital or their doctor to ask if they've noticed any increases in thyroid or cancer rates -

I recall decades ago when I worked in the emergency of the local hospital the nurses one day generally talking about an increase in Parkinson's or some other similar disease (I can't remember which one it was) showing up after the Hanford nuclear facility in Washington state released a bunch of radiation (which travelled this way because of the prevailing winds).

My point is that the nurses noticed an increase in this particular disease so the medical staff and doctors who are on the front lines and with long careers would notice 'trends' and may offer answers if casually asked. We're not going to get real data, we are going to have to rely on other ways to find out how people are doing. Could also ask vets in recent years what they've noticed about cancers in cats and dogs, they're likely to be much more open about it. Young vets/doctors wouldn't notice trends yet, need to ask doctors and nurses who have had long careers...

At the Unit #4 reactor at Fukushima dai-ichi, the spent fuel pool is actually being held in position by an independent crane. That's a good thing. So if there's a moderate quake around there, the spent fuel pool should still stay aloft.

So basically like a large pendulum attached to a big stick stuck in the ground. Now... if the ground wobbles and shakes, then the pendulum may also wobble and shake if it is free floating. If it is not free-floating then a collapse of the fuel pool will 'slosh' a whole lot of water out of the fuel pool. It all just sounds a keystone kops/Laurel & Hardy/huge disaster waiting to happen.

How can an 'independent' crane attached to the ground and also under the influence of any earthquake, be expected to save the fuel pool in the event of a fuel pool tipping earthquake? It does not make sense at all to me.

wishes

Year 3... we should be seeing more cancer rates

Why?

wishes
Could also ask vets in recent years what they've noticed about cancers in cats and dogs, they're likely to be much more open about it. Young vets/doctors wouldn't notice trends yet, need to ask doctors and nurses who have had long careers...

Or you could just ask people who, you know? Live here.

I have 4 cats, all fine. They have all had their checkups and scans. I treat them as family. I have a 2 year old daughter, she is also just wonderful actually. No weird growths or third arms. I know you probably would like people to suffer, as it sort of feeds your desire to be proven right. But really, the wheel keeps on turning.

Have you ever been to Tokyo? It's the most alive place I've ever been.

Alekto

wishes
Could also ask vets in recent years what they've noticed about cancers in cats and dogs, they're likely to be much more open about it. Young vets/doctors wouldn't notice trends yet, need to ask doctors and nurses who have had long careers...

Or you could just ask people who, you know? Live here.

I have 4 cats, all fine. They have all had their checkups and scans. I treat them as family. I have a 2 year old daughter, she is also just wonderful actually. No weird growths or third arms. I know you probably would like people to suffer, as it sort of feeds your desire to be proven right. But really, the wheel keeps on turning.

Have you ever been to Tokyo? It's the most alive place I've ever been.

You say you "know I probably would like people to suffer"?!?!? You join the ranks of the truly ignorant not to mention RUDE who ASSume they know everything and everyone else knows nothing! You KNOW NOTHING about me and what I would like! You KNOW NOTHING about the extent of this problem - and if you don't like that people are GENUINELY concerned about our FUTURE then DON'T BE HERE! Simple! Why don't you actually start contributing something of value instead of snarks and ignorant commentary to posters? Go dish it out to Tepco, they're the cause of this, not me!

Are you a doctor? No. Do you know about cancer trends in Japan? No. So why would I ask you anything about cancer trends? I've asked you questions historically but you don't answer (or contribute) anything, just come here and throw out digs and insults.

If you READ what I said, I said TRENDS in cancer! Are vets seeing more pets "this" year with cancer than they did 4 years ago?!? That's a "trend" and ONE WAY to get a picture to what extent this is doing damage. Is not enough words to describe people like you. You continually ignore a wealth of information and look for anything you can throw mud at, totally unproductive.

Is great your family is healthy - if you think everyone in Japan is healthy and not effected by Fukushima you're living in la-la-land. FYI I wouldn't wish cancer on anyone! I just lost my husband to pancreatic cancer two years ago (no, not from Fukushima) and it was the worst possible way to die!!! I care for sick animals! I volunteer for sick people! I myself have MS and I have young grandchildren who deserve a future. I have more concern for humanity than you could even begin to comprehend! And you have the AUDACITY to accuse me of WANTING PEOPLE TO SUFFER!!! GROW UP AND GET EDUCATED!


(apologies, people, I just can't help feeding the Trolls... lol)

Pics/Video of Unit 1 Damage

photo.tepco.co.jp...

- Purple Chive

Purplechive
Unit 3 SFP Temp Up....

Higher than Unit 4. Another BIG WHY???

March 4:
www.tepco.co.jp...

Feb 4:
www.tepco.co.jp...

Jan 4:
www.tepco.co.jp...

- Purple Chive

The last three days Unit 3 SFP temp stayed pegged at 18.6...the temps for all the SFP always fluctuate (even if by only a tenth of a degree). TEPCO is trying to cover up a problem again folks.

www.tepco.co.jp...

www.tepco.co.jp...

www.tepco.co.jp...

Check out the archives:

www.tepco.co.jp...

- Purple Chive

For those who live or visit in vibrant Tokyo - here's an older video of dust from an air conditioner being analyzed with proper equipment by Dr. Chris Busby showing the high levels of radioactive particles from a few grams of dust from one air filter from a Tokyo apartment 20 stories high and near the Tokyo Tower. There is no reason to believe the air is free from them now because Fukushima is still steaming and blowing out particles 24/7/365 and they 'live' for years if not decades/centuries. Again, look at the results, not the researcher.

The sample shows:
Cesium 134 - 42,000 bcq/kilogram;
Cesium 137 - 38,000 bcq/kilogram;
Lead 210 - 7500 bcq/kilogram (if it was natural and not from Fukushima would also see bismoth 214 with it);
Thorium 234 (daughter of uranium 238) - 3000 bcq/kilogram;
Uranium 235 - 3000 bcq/kilogram (should only be about 20 bcq/kilogram so this is definitely from Fukushima)
All these - and more - are floating around getting inhaled!

part 1
www.youtube.com...
part 2
www.youtube.com...

Effects of radiation poisoning start showing up as radiation sicknesses (like hair loss, nose bleeds, etc.) and cancer thyroid and leukemia depending on 'what' type of hot particle is 'inhaled'. Thanks to Fukushima there are several varieties of hot particles out there (and over here in North America) floating around being inhaled or eaten. Children are particularly vulnerable because they are growing and going through many cellular changes.

Contrary to some erroneous perceptions, effects of radiation poisoning do NOT show up as a third leg, that is saved for the next generation developing abnormalities in the womb. Young children exposed now are at higher risk for getting cancer and for having abnormal children because their chromosomes have been damaged. This is why it takes "time" to see the damages/deaths from radiation toxicity - I expect cancer is brewing in millions of people and animals thanks to the hot particles released and being downplayed.

Purplechive

Purplechive
Unit 3 SFP Temp Up....

Higher than Unit 4. Another BIG WHY???

March 4:
www.tepco.co.jp...

Feb 4:
www.tepco.co.jp...

Jan 4:
www.tepco.co.jp...

- Purple Chive

The last three days Unit 3 SFP temp stayed pegged at 18.6...the temps for all the SFP always fluctuate (even if by only a tenth of a degree). TEPCO is trying to cover up a problem again folks.

www.tepco.co.jp...

www.tepco.co.jp...

www.tepco.co.jp...

Check out the archives:

www.tepco.co.jp...

- Purple Chive

Thanks TEPCO for finally updating Unit 3 SFP temp....18.9....wonder if you monitor this thread???

www.tepco.co.jp...

- Purple Chive

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Just wait for that 0815 to come here and tell you you are lying. Too bad we cant kick them all out and somehow level the whole area. Sadly the only ones being screwed with are helpless.

reply to post by Purplechive

Thanks TEPCO for finally updating Unit 3 SFP temp....18.9....wonder if you monitor this thread???

Was that a rhetorical question? Not only do they monitor it, they have participants in it as well. I suppose according to the T&Cs they are allowed to. Problem for them is that they give a great deal away when their people respond.

The more they respond to issues, the more we can pinpoint what issues they are trying to cover up and therefore what issues we should be looking into with a great deal of depth.

Speaking of depth, I wonder how the cores are going, going going gone!

P

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Yes Pheonix - rhetorical.

There are some folks who are rather aggressive on this thread. Please extend compassion to them. They have much anger, frustration and stress. Their homeland severely compromised.

Many brilliant folks frequent this thread.

Gravity, electromagnetism, strong and weak nuclear force.

Contemplate. Outside the box.

Many more nuclear catastrophes in near future (ie. Carlsbad, NM)....

- Purple Chive

Unit 3 SFP Now 19.3

www.tepco.co.jp...

Haven't seen this high of temp since October last year when all the other SFP temps were running much higher.

www.tepco.co.jp...

- Purple Chive

Here is a recent PBS look inside Fukushima - not sure if there's any 'new' news, but some of the film footage might be useful/interesting - they are each under 10 minutes:

PBS Takes Us on a Terrifying ‘Post-Apocalyptic’ Tour Inside Fukushima Part 1
ecowatch.com...

Miles O’Brien Takes PBS Fishing for Radiation at Fukushima Part 2
ecowatch.com...

(PC - thanks for keeping an eye on the temperatures!)

Three Years...

My condolences to the Japanese people....and our planet.

- Purple Chive

Purplechive
Unit 3 SFP Now 19.3

www.tepco.co.jp...

Haven't seen this high of temp since October last year when all the other SFP temps were running much higher.

www.tepco.co.jp...

- Purple Chive

Steadily climbing...19.8. Has anyone seen a report that they are doing work on Unit 3's SFP?

www.tepco.co.jp...

In one month it has risen 12 degrees (Feb. 12 -- 7.9):
www.tepco.co.jp...

None of the other SFP have seen such an increase in temp.

On edit....I did find this Feb. 5th, 2014 article from "Simplyinfo":

www.fukuleaks.org...

And video:


- Purple Chive

Still harping on about starting the nuclear reactors...


Japan puts two reactors on shortlist for restart screening
Reuters
By Mari Saito and Kentaro Hamada 5 hours ago

TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan put two reactors on a shortlist for a final round of safety checks on Thursday, moving a step closer to reviving the country's nuclear industry, three years after the Fukushima disaster that led to the shutdown of all plants.

Two days after the third anniversary of the meltdowns at the Fukushima nuclear station, Japan's nuclear regulator placed two reactors operated by Kyushu Electric Power Co on a list for priority screening at a meeting of officials reviewing restart applications.

No timing for a potential restart was decided at the meeting and the next stage of checks incorporates a period of public hearings, which may be a fraught process given widespread scepticism about a return to nuclear power.

Kyushu Electric's Sendai reactors are located about 980 kms (600 miles) southwest of Tokyo. The utility is one of the most reliant of Japan's regional electricity monopolies that provide nuclear power, supplying about a third of Japan's energy needs before Fukushima.

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, a strong supporter of nuclear power, finalised a mid-term energy plan last month, which embraces nuclear energy and calls for the restart of reactors deemed safe by regulators, overturning the previous administration's plan to eventually mothball all reactors.
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The disaster led to the eventual shutdown of all reactors, forcing utilities to spend billions of dollars on expensive fossil fuels to generate electricity.

I love it how they always say that fossil fuel is more expensive when the cost of accidents, clearing up and decomissioning is not taken into account.