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Originally posted by pepsi78
But there is an official masonic body, there does not have to be a governing body, it has to be official, as in not clandestine, the ritual is well withing the official body of masonry
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Since neither one of us is in the York Rite, I, unlike you, will not offer an opinion on whether this is accurate or not since niether one of us knows for certain. There are several members on this forum who are members and I am sure that they can offer further insight regarding this video.
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
What jurisdiction? Is this practised in the United States or is it part of another country's ritual? There is no international body governing Masonry or ritual and ritual in one country (or state) may not even be understood in another as there are variances between all of them ranging from small to major.
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Since neither one of us is in the York Rite, I, unlike you, will not offer an opinion on whether this is accurate or not since niether one of us knows for certain. There are several members on this forum who are members and I am sure that they can offer further insight regarding this video.
I have previously served on the Ritual Committee of the General Grand Chapter of Royal Arch Masons International.
The video does not show authentic Masonic ritual. Rather, it seems to be based on Duncan's Ritual, which contains rituals that were never used anywhere by legitimate Masonic bodies.edit on 7-7-2011 by Masonic Light because: (no reason given)
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Jahbulon (or Jabulon) is a word which was used historically in some rituals of Royal Arch Masonry.
Originally posted by pepsi78
I find the ritual authentic.
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
In what jurisdiction was this video allegedly filmed? Why is it so difficult for you to answer this question?
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The Triple Tau.
(Grand Emblem of Royal Arch Masonry)
Originally posted by pepsi78
As long as it's part of the rite, an official body of masonry who cares what juristiction it is.
Originally posted by pepsi78
The video, together with the symbols from the royal arch, bolth the triple tau and the more obvius one with Jehovah, also with writen sources that say the same, point to the same conclusion, that it is the case.
It's suspect to you since you don't like the idea of others that say masonry is satanic to be right about it.
Originally posted by pepsi78
reply to post by AugustusMasonicus
I think enough evidence has been posted to indicate othewise, that Jahbulon is or was part of the royal arch masonic ritual.
With writen sources, with symbols, with the video I posted.
I it's my personal opinion that masonry is a satanic body.
edit on 7-7-2011 by pepsi78 because: (no reason given)
What exactly are you using to quantify the term "Satanic"?
Satanic in what sense of the myriad definitions for it?
And what could Jahbulon possibly have to do with Satanism, in its many, many forms?
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The Tau or Tav means “cross,” and is the final letter of the Hebrew alphabet. It is numbered 300 in the Greek and 400 in the Hebrew numerical alphabet. The tau corresponds astrologically with the planet Saturn and the concept of finality.
Originally posted by pepsi78
I think enough evidence has been posted to indicate othewise, that Jahbulon is or was part of the royal arch masonic ritual.
I it's my personal opinion that masonry is a satanic body.
Originally posted by CodyOutlaw
As I said, I think you need a better understanding of the mythologies you are referring to.
And I can tell you this as both a working historian, and a theistic Satanist.
Oh dear.
If you think Yahweh is Satan, you really are barking up the wrong tree.
Satan, Lucifer, Yahweh - three different deities.
Trace it back to the oldest pantheon that we have on record, and you will see.
Yahweh can be traced back to the storm God Set (Enlil), because the Israelites inherited their monotheism from the Hittites, who worshipped Set exclusively. The traits are the same.
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apricorn Mythology in ancient Sumeria was associated with the planet Saturn and the Mesopotamian god Enki.
The goat-fish is a representation of Enki, seen on Babylonian monuments.
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Despite its faintness, Capricornus has one of the oldest mythological associations, having been consistently represented as a hybrid of a goat and a fish since the Middle Bronze Age. First attested in depictions on a cylinder-seal c. 21st century BCE,[1] from the mid second Millennium it became a popular motif on boundary stones.[2] It was explicitly recorded in the Babylonian star catalogues as MULSUḪUR.MAŠ "The Goat-Fish" before 1000 BC. The constellation was a symbol of Ea and in the Early Bronze Age marked the winter solstice.[3]
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The Babylonian zodiacal sign is called šaxû "ibex". The sun in this month entered the suxûru-fish constellation, called the star of Tashmetum, the wife of Nabu. The goat-fish is known from depictions on Babylonian monuments. Capricorn is also linked to the Greek God, Pan.
"Lucifer" (Jesus) can be traced back to Marduk (Horus).
Satan (the Serpent) can be traced back to Ningishzidda (Anubis/Thoth), the god of wisdom.
You've broken it down into a very black and white, oversimplified Christian-Judaic framework. This framework is incorrect.
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El is a generic word for god that could be used for any god including Baal, Moloch,[11] or Yahweh.
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El, the Phoenician Cronus
When Hellenes encountered Phoenicians and, later, Hebrews, they identified the Semitic El, by interpretatio graeca, with Cronus. The association was recorded ca. AD 100 by Philo of Byblos' Phoenician history, as reported in Eusebius' Præparatio Evangelica I.10.16.[13] Philo's account, ascribed by Eusebius to the semi-legendary pre-Trojan War Phoenician historian Sanchuniathon, indicates that Cronus was originally a Canaanite ruler who founded Byblos and was subsequently deified. This version gives his alternate name as Elus or Ilus, and states that in the 32nd year of his reign, he emasculated, slew and deified his father Epigeius or Autochthon "whom they afterwards called Uranus". It further states that after ships were invented, Cronus, visiting the 'inhabitable world', bequeathed Attica to his own daughter Athena, and Egypt to Thoth the son of Misor and inventor of writing.[14]
Originally posted by pepsi78
We will take it in another way, satan is the adversary, a word from ad-verse, to add a verse, a version, version comes from vers, we can relate this from the name "ADONIS", to ad-on, so you got the name "AD-ON-IS" you know what a computer adon is ? to add another version.