We are currently in Asteroids, people. Don't you get that? E.T. is next.

Not really seeing any huge asteroid impacts so not sure ONE counts as a sudden ramp up in asteroids hitting Earth. Who has two thumbs and isn't really worried about this thread? This Guy

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Thanks for your input!

I know this is off thread (sorry!) but do you know anything about a certain area of Nellis AFB range where foreign aircraft participating in Red Flag exercises must fly around on a certain fashion (clockwise, IIRC) and are never allowed to fly-over. The penalty is that country being banned from Red Flag.

Thanks in advance.

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I know a lot of things about a lot of places. I can neither confirm nor deny.

Originally posted by Vasa Croe
Not really seeing any huge asteroid impacts so not sure ONE counts as a sudden ramp up in asteroids hitting Earth. Who has two thumbs and isn't really worried about this thread? This Guy

I see your point but I must retort.

After Chelyabinsk, NASA started the asteroid initiative and they are waking up the WISE satellite which has been asleep for 2.5 years. This is clearly a ramp up. And now we are told that Chelyabinsk has 'family'.

von Braun's prophecy indicates the following sequence, I repeat it just for sake of repeating it:
communism, terrorism, rogue nations, asteroids, e.t.

Communism had a family, USSR with the Iron Curtain satellite states, which included many of the -stan countries.
Terrorism had a family, the Bush family, the bin Laden family, the Kennedy family, the CIA family and the mafia family.

Rogue nations have a family, the North Korean dictatorship and the Assad dictatorship.

Asteroids now have families. Chelyabinsk family is the prime #1 example.

E.T. Does E.T. have a family? Are we E.T's family?

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Don't let Zaphod fool you. There is a high powered "dedicated laser tracker" on the LRO spacecraft and it is powerful enough to hit a "dedicated laser tracking station" on the earth as seen in this image.

en.wikipedia.org...:Goddard_Spaceflight_Center_Laser_Ranging_Facility.jpg




I don't know why that link doesn't work, let me try this:
upload.wikimedia.org...

Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter

So, what did you think of von Braun's theory?

That Life magazine cover you posted is a fake. The real one doesn't have the text about the asteroids and E.T.'s. As far as I know the only source for his quote is Carol Rosin.

I think it's a cool theory for a sci-fi film but there probably isn't a decades long plan that ends with a fake alien invasion. There's no need to make up a fake alien invasion, they could play the terrorist card for as long as they would need to.

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And yet again, and again, and again, high power doesn't mean weapon. I can hit you with the laser range finder on that satellite, or from the ground, or even the ones used to hit the LRRR, and you wouldn't even know it. If these lasers were so incredibly powerful and could be used as a weapon, do you really think they would use them with planes, and other satellites going overhead?

It's a little thing called "common sense" and "logic". Try using them, instead of immediately going "Erhmagerd! LAZERS!"

Originally posted by Zaphod58
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And yet again, and again, and again,

And yet again, and again, and again, year after year, decade after decade, the von Braun Prophecy, the sequence, is prima facie evidence that is totally unimpeachable.

Communism, Terrorism, Rogue Nations,

Asteroids

and then E.T. Why won't you accept this as a valid timeline that perfectly illustrates the NWO attitude of problem-reaction-solution. How can you dispute that asteroids are on the ramping up now in the news media?

How is the von Braun sequence invalid?

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Asteroids aren't "just now ramping up" in the media. I can remember when I was a kid hearing about asteroids that were going to be close, and how hard they were working trying to find those "killer" asteroids. Asteroids have been in the media for decades, and have been hunted since we developed telescopes almost.

Originally posted by Zaphod58
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Asteroids aren't "just now ramping up" in the media. I can remember when I was a kid hearing about asteroids that were going to be close, and how hard they were working trying to find those "killer" asteroids. Asteroids have been in the media for decades, and have been hunted since we developed telescopes almost.

Asteroids are now, yes, ramping up in the public discourse, taking up space in the headlines and increasingly, asteroids has become the introductory area for the media to again explore it's dialogue on space matters... which has not been done since Apollo, really.

In which the western media will execute a further ramping up of the dialogue, an fervent escalation, if you will, based on the threat of asteroids.. and where it fits in with the NASA asteroid initiative and the NASA lasso an asteroid mission... It is the von Braun Prophecy.

Look now, even the media is bringing out this discussion in terms of the legality of certain space matters, where we have interpretations of space laws from the western perspective. It may seem like a mundane legal discussion but it looks like NASA is already trying to control the dialogue, so as to strain the OST until it breaks, which will require a new outer space treaty to be formulated, probably giving corporations the right to do what they want to in space, and regulated by government agencies. And that will require space weapons because history shows that corporations are warlike entities.

www.space.com...

law professor Matthew Schaefer, director of the Space, Cyber and Telecommunications Law Program at the University of Nebraska College of Law in Lincoln.

"However, as a practical matter, any claims based on free access or nonsovereignty obligations will not even arise unless two nations are both targeting the same asteroid or same area of a celestial body for exploration," Schaefer said.

In sum, Schaefer said that there are "no definitive, significant legal barriers" to an asteroid-capture mission at this stage of space exploration.

"Additionally, the space treaties liability provisions refer to 'space objects' and 'launching of a space object' and an asteroid that has been moved does not fit comfortably within those terms," Schaefer said. Thus, the specific liability rules of the space treaty might not apply at all, he added, so general international law may come into play.

Michael Listner, the founder and principal of the firm Space Law and Policy Solutions, based in New Hampshire

Article VI of the OST stipulates that as a signatory, the United States bears international responsibility for its national activities in outer space, including operations on or around the moon and other celestial bodies, Listner said, "whether such activities are carried on by governmental agencies or by nongovernmental entities."

As far as the "oops" factor goes, Listner said that the maxim of expecting the unexpected should be heeded. The possibility exists that attempting to place an asteroid into an orbit close to Earth or around the moon could lead to some unforeseen consequences, he said. For example, the space rock could be jostled out of orbit and interfere with satellites in the geosynchronous belt, or, even worse, head toward Earth and cause damage on the planet's surface.

George Robinson, a space law practitioner and retired Associate General Counsel for the Smithsonian Institution

"The OST at present is a paper tiger with no teeth and little interest in dental implants that would allow substantive answers to pressing legal questions and answers, such as those presented by plans for asteroid mining and potential retrieval for a near-Earth trajectory," Robinson said.

For readers interested in more information regarding space law, go to the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs:

www.unoosa.org...

Originally posted by freelance_zenarchist
That Life magazine cover you posted is a fake. The real one doesn't have the text about the asteroids and E.T.'s.

It's called an illustration and it was never presented to be anything other than that.

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Then why were they such a big thing when I was like 8 or 9, and they were talking about how they had mapped something like 1-2% of the sky? They've been talking about asteroids as long as I can remember, so no, they are not just ramping up.

As an aside, how many near earth objects are we aware of today, as oppised to, say, 10 or 100 or 500 or 1,000 years ago?

If that because there are more of them? Or for another reason? I wonder ......

Asteroid Threats ripped from today's headlines. Have you heard of the "Citadel"?

How will Russia defend the Earth from asteroids?
August 30, 2013 Andrei Kislyakov, specially for RIR
Russian researchers have been developing systems to gather data on the most dangerous threats to the planet and to destroy them, if need be. Yet a specific strategy for neutralizing space threats is still to be developed. Source indrus.in...

According to the general director of the Planetary Defense Center, Anatoly Zaitsev, the “Citadel” International Planetary Defense System — a project presented in March 2013 — should incorporate two or three observer spaceships, reconnaissance satellites to identify asteroid parameters and trajectories, and interceptor satellites capable of destroying an asteroid or changing its trajectory.

As we will soon be passing through the tail of comet ISON, then I think we shall have some asteroids raining in on us shortly. Maybe not any big ones I hope, but it is some thing to consider . Von Braun was the man when it came to NASA. He must have said it for a reason.

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And the only person that I've ever found that heard him say it was Carol Rosen. So did he really say it?

NASA asteroid meeting coming up on September 11, 2013

WASHINGTON, Sept. 9, 2013 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Several NASA officials will update media Wednesday, Sept. 11, about the agency's progress on a proposed mission to find, capture, redirect and visit a near-Earth asteroid. Source www.sys-con.com...

Not one, media event, but two media events.

The participants of the teleconference also are members of a Space 2013 panel, "NASA's Asteroid Redirect Mission," which will air on NASA Television beginning at noon PDT (3 p.m. EDT) Wednesday. same source

We Lost Contact with Deep Impact

PASADENA, Calif. - Ground controllers have been unable to communicate with NASA's long-lived Deep Impact spacecraft. Last communication with the spacecraft was on Aug. 8, 2013. Deep Impact mission controllers will continue to uplink commands in an attempt to reestablish communications with the spacecraft. Source www.jpl.nasa.gov...

My view: There is a script unfolding. It is the Asteroid Threat script predicted by Werner von Braun in his prophecy.

This all ties into the Nixon/Apollo c-theory, the Nazi/CIA/Operation Paperclip c-theory, the Walt Disney/von Braun c-theory, the Stanley Kubrick/Arthur C. Clarke/NASA/Nazi c-theory... all these c-theories are unfolding.

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Do you even bother to read or do you just grab headlines and run. Deep Impact was designed to rendevous with comet Temple and then end the mission. It worked better than planned so they extended it. But since it now failed that plays right into your hands right.

Zaphod58
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Do you even bother to read or do you just grab headlines and run. Deep Impact was designed to rendevous with comet Temple and then end the mission. It worked better than planned so they extended it. But since it now failed that plays right into your hands right.

It seems funny that NASA can wake up satellites after 2.5 years of hibernation (WISE) or they can crash satellites into the moon at the end of a mission (see numerous examples) or NASA can seemingly, upon whim, extend missions or turn them off, simply on the basis of funding.

The latest LADEE mission is very short term so it won't last more than 1 year. How's that for your space dollar investment? It's pure baloney. It's fakery. It's a fraud.

NASA PR will say that the LADEE mission has ended. But it will always be on patrol, with the laser weapons platform, to disable all the Chinese and Indian and Japanese and Euro satellites that try to get close to the moon.