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Originally posted by pryed -eyed-one
I'm sorry but you are mixing Western religion with eastern ideas and this my friend does not work, where as the bias you have been predisposed to by what seems to be christianity to believe everything having been made by some more advanced, ultimate, holy or whatever being you call it. The east has a far different concept of reality than this. Mainly when I mean east I'm talking Hinduism, various Buddhist and more ancient texts that predate our modern views. This is relevant because the Chakra system you mention cannot be mixed with the idea of any separate "god" creating it. Therefore there is nothing to be trapped if you are going to be using the chakra system at all is my point.
You seem to be mentioning something close to a Buddhist text called "the secret of the golden flower"
I'd recommend it its a fascinating read
If you could agree with all the above, then it sure looks like a War between two different Metaphysical sides . - With the human Soul as Prize. …the one Side wanting to give Souls back their once original Gorgeous Beings while the other side wants to Pimp Up this present physical frame by Crystalline / kundalini …the one Side wanting this so much that He came down to have this prison frame done away with while The other side was killing every soul who was a serious threat for this …the one Side wanting back Heaven on Earth again while the other side seeks to Invade Heaven using human as Shield - I could continue on some more but you get the point.
Originally posted by Eidolon23
This is a good version of my favorite story. I particularly liked the idea of being imprisoned within one's own heart, the captivity imposed through absolute separation from others. Our deepest longing is for connection, but if one is trapped in a worldview where others are either identified as Self or Object, connection is impossible.
My cohort hit upon the central flaw in the Gnostic version of the story, the idea of an interdimensional Nero entrapping fully-fledged souls in matter for its own amusement. In this view, of course, Mater Matter is a villain who devours her own children.
Consider, instead, that the Divine is thrust like a seed into Matter, the processes of the mind and body giving shape and substance to the plasma form. Just another organic cycle. And probably, just as with our bodies and minds, our developing ID forms flourish best when we enjoy rich, fruitful relationships with our fellow humans.
We also posit that the hierarchical social structure you refer to as being a state of lost innocence is actually part of a historical loop we seem perennially unable to interrupt.
But here does the moon come into this? We have some thoughts on that, too, but I would be interested in your take.